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http://www.moneyville.ca/blog/post/1126122--rogers-follows-bell-in-ending-internet-throttling?bn=1

The CRTC recently said Rogers Communications might be breaking the law by slowing down some video games to ease Internet congestion. I wrote about the issue here.

After being given a deadline to respond, Rogers has promised to end Internet throttling for all its customers by the end of this year. Bell Canada has said it will stop the practice next month.

"Over the past two years, we've invested $1 billion in our networks to deliver the best possible Internet service for our customers, including more speed, reliability and capacity," spokeswoman Leigh-Ann Popek said Friday.

"We have historically managed peer-to-peer traffic uploads. However, new technologies and ongoing investments in network capacity will allow us to begin phasing out that policy starting in March 2012."

Rogers will switch off the policy in stages and monitor the change closely to make sure customers have the speed and reliability they expected.

Open Media, a consumer group that promotes Internet access, praised the telecom regulator for pushing Rogers to change its policy.

"We hope this is a strong reminder to all Internet service providers that Canadians will stand up for the open Internet when pushed," said executive director Steve Anderson.

The CRTC adopted new rules in 2009 to allow Internet providers to manage traffic in some cases as long as they disclosed it to customers. However, there was no way to enforce the rules except for consumer complaints.

The Canadian Gamers Organization compiled evidence to show that Rogers was discriminating against some video games, such as World of Warcraft. This was against its stated policy of restricting file sharing with movies and TV shows.

The CRTC did its own tests and confirmed the gamers' results, forcing Rogers to stop restricting access to online services.

The principle at stake is known as Net Neutrality. You can find explanations here and here.

Canada is a global contender in broadband Internet performance when compared to 32 countries in Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, according to a consultant's report released Feb. 2.

"The statistics are particularly meaningful when Canada's large geographical land mass and sparse population are taken into consideration," Lemay-Yates Associates said.

"Canada has the best performance with respect to broadband speeds and penetration when compared to countries with similar very large geography, notably the United States and Australia."

As for costs, Canada ranks seventh among 32 countries in having the lowest average monthly Internet subscription fees, the report said.

Let's hope our costs stay low and our speeds stay high. The decisions of two big Internet providers to stop throttling is a step in achieving that balance.

 

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Fat_wong posted:
The CRTC recently said Rogers Communications might be breaking the law by slowing down some video games to ease Internet congestion.
This story is complete bullsiht. I've spent a lot of time playing "Internet games" and I've looked at the amount of data required to pay them for very large group play. The bandwidth requirement for gaming barely approaches a fraction of what is required for video use.

You can play a MMO and talk on your Voice over IP to your hearts content and never come near what video users consume for bandwidth.


Complete and utter bullsiht is what this story is.

 

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exactly what is bullshit?



 

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Aerlinthian posted:
Fat_wong posted:
The CRTC recently said Rogers Communications might be breaking the law by slowing down some video games to ease Internet congestion.
This story is complete bullsiht. I've spent a lot of time playing "Internet games" and I've looked at the amount of data required to pay them for very large group play. The bandwidth requirement for gaming barely approaches a fraction of what is required for video use.

You can play a MMO and talk on your Voice over IP to your hearts content and never come near what video users consume for bandwidth.


Complete and utter bullsiht is what this story is.


Allah contraire...the reason why WoW and others were being throttled were not because of the bandwidth that they were consuming but because the traffic for it looks very similar to peer to peer traffic from torrents due to the structure of how they put it together. The providers were trying to limit bit torrents and the like and some games got caught in the cross-fire. Gamers /nerd-raged over it happening, complained to the CRTC, and that was that. They never targeted video games specifically and weren't sure what to do to fix it since they had a hard time telling what traffic was for what.

 

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It was the fact that it wasn't consuming much bandwidth at all that gave way to the CRTC basically telling them to figure out a way to separate video game traffic from bit torrents or stop the practice for all of it. They opted to stop the practice.

 

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The story is a red herring. Why I don't know. I do know that using any excuse involving gaming is a laughable farce as anyone who has actually looked at the data usage would know.

It could be MMO's, RPG's or whatever. it doesn't matter. None of them come close to streaming video consumption.

 

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Allah contraire...the reason why WoW and others were being throttled were not because of the bandwidth that they were consuming but because the traffic for it looks very similar to peer to peer traffic from torrents due to the structure of how they put it together.
Then the people complaining are contemptible morons. There is no mincing words about it.

 

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Got it.

I'll add this to the long list of things you have no idea about.

 

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wow, you really just don;t get it do you?


let me make it simple for you.

internet company says we don;t throttle games.

internet company actually throttles games because they can't tell it is in fact a game.

they are told to stop doing so.

they decide to end throttling for everything.

 

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Fat_wong posted:
wow, you really just don;t get it do you?


let me make it simple for you.

internet company says we don;t throttle games.

internet company actually throttles games because they can't tell it is in fact a game.

they are told to stop doing so.

they decide to end throttling for everything.





/sanction canada
canada must comply with greedy sony demands to help stop loss of potential revenue or face trade sanctions

 

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