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This is why things are bad
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yep, they need to make laws against it really
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Wont help. Its the global economy.
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I would say the global (blah blah) is the issue. We cant fix the US let alone any other country. We need to start with us before try to fix any other country.
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Adding other countries into the mix just makes a bigger issue needing a bigger bandaid because no one has the a real fix to the problem.
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Im sure ill piss off some liberals saying this, but the corporate tax rate being 35% isnt helping the US maintain a mfg base in this country. It needs to be lowered. As someone who works in an industry that outsources work to China, I can tell you that it isnt that much cheaper to business in China than it is here. And with the quality problems we have with their products, all my company would need to bring the work back to the US is an incentive that would make them more money by keeping it here.
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Jobs being shipped out of the country, jobs taken by illegal aliens is there really a difference?
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Our current trade situation makes no sense to me. I don't see how the status quo is really the position of either party but still nothing happens.
There is more than politics getting in the way from improving our trade situation.
Also the problem is not trade or even jobs leaving. The problem is that trade heavily relies on a give and take in terms of the demand for US production. So the real problem is not the US importing good but the US having a trade imbalance. This is why China is such a problem. The trade imbalance is massive and it is a direct result of a foreign nation making choices about the US economy.
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Yes.. the solution is autarky..... 
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Must be all those taxes and lack of corporate welfare that scares off the job creators, you should totally lower your taxes and give them more money. 
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the term "global economy" is a buzz word used by the rich to mask their need for slave labor to increase profits.
the "global economy" either needs to realise that the rich wont always be as rich because the slaves have rights too
or just get the fuck on with it and enact slavery laws to enslave the masses of cheap laborers.
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I'd like to see a person here who could start up a business that would compete with the Chinese. Of course they'll have to do that with US wages, not the $0.31/hr the Chinese workers get. Oh, they'll have to do it with all the other little blessings that come with it here (corporate taxes, which if you're a small company with small capital could be an adventure) as well as all the healthcare loops, etc.
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sweeny_comodore posted:
the term "global economy" is a buzz word used by the rich to mask their need for slave labor to increase profits.
Yup, they can anally rape poor people in other countries for profit because hey it's a global economy, but I can't even buy uncut or cheaper US games on Steam and have to buy some higher priced Euro market version because well the global economy isn't supposed to benefit ordinary people.
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Bonzoboy1 posted:
Jobs being shipped out of the country, jobs taken by illegal aliens is there really a difference?
There is a difference, minor as it may be... Illegal Aliens taking jobs here still keeps money here. Jobs being shipped overseas ships money overseas.
Minor difference but over time and accumulative it makes a big difference.
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Mag-Galahad posted:
Im sure ill piss off some liberals saying this, but the corporate tax rate being 35% isnt helping the US maintain a mfg base in this country.
Taxes arn't the reason manufacturing is struggling.
But I actually agree that high corporate taxes are not such a great thing.
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reesescups posted:
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Jobs being shipped out of the country, jobs taken by illegal aliens is there really a difference?
There is a difference, minor as it may be... Illegal Aliens taking jobs here still keeps money here. Jobs being shipped overseas ships money overseas.
Minor difference but over time and accumulative it makes a big difference.
It's a massive difference.
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You shouldn't allow rich to take money to another countries
Short term, they'll get more profit, long term, if you don't
use few hundred nukes on China, India etc, they'll surpass
you with technology they got because you were greedy
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Mag-Galahad posted:
Im sure ill piss off some liberals saying this, but the corporate tax rate being 35% isnt helping the US maintain a mfg base in this country. It needs to be lowered.
How much lower? You realize that almost no companies actually pay 35% and that most pay a much lower effective rate, right?
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The US should base their corporate tax code off of what other countries(that are similar to the US) are doing. The corporate tax code should change not only the rates but the base. Right now we are trying to tax the production side instead of the consumption side which hurts labor.
Combine this with increasing capital gains taxes and you have a change that really helps US production IMO.
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Bonzoboy1 posted:
Jobs being shipped out of the country, jobs taken by illegal aliens is there really a difference?
Pretty dramatic one.
If the gov't decided tomorrow that nobody named Bob could be an American citizen....would we suddenly become poorer and face a job shortage because of all the Bob's working in the US?
Contrast that with...
If the gov't decided tomorrow that all the jobs held by Bob's around the country would be moved to India...and now you have alot of Bob's out of work pushing down wages for all the non-Bob workers.
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Neither scenario is even close to being that simplistic red K.
illegal immigration is a serious problem that has many cons that don't exist with foreign trade.
Plus not all foreign trade is the same. Foreign trade propped up by currency manipulation, worker's rights violation, environmental issues, etc.
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Mag-Galahad posted:
Im sure ill piss off some liberals saying this, but the corporate tax rate being 35% isnt helping the US maintain a mfg base in this country. It needs to be lowered. As someone who works in an industry that outsources work to China, I can tell you that it isnt that much cheaper to business in China than it is here. And with the quality problems we have with their products, all my company would need to bring the work back to the US is an incentive that would make them more money by keeping it here.
If all corporations actually paid their rate, it wouldn't need to be 35%.
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If all corporations actually paid their rate, it wouldn't need to be 35%.
I just want to make sure I understand you. Those that do pay have to pay 35% to make up for those who do not pay that rate, or do not pay at all?
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The difference is actually made up through other taxes. Corp tax (as a % of GDP) has been decreasing steadily for decades.
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