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The United Nations wants a world tax imposed on all financial transactions to fund a global model of social services that will provide “needy people†with a basic income, free healthcare, education and housing.
The drive is part of the UN’s mission to create a “social protection floor†under the auspices of the Commission on Social Development, which began this week in New York. The SPF will become the UN’s primary focus from 2015 onwards when the Millennium Development Goals project concludes.
“The money to fund these services may come from a new world tax,†reports the Deseret News, quoting Jens Wandel, Deputy Director of the United Nations Development Program, who said that a long term funding plan for the project would center around “a minimal financial transaction tax (of .005 percent). This will create $40 billion in revenue.â€
“No one should live below a certain income level,†stated Milos Koterec, President of the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations. “Everyone should be able to access at least basic health services, primary education, housing, water, sanitation and other essential services.â€
According to the report, the new global tax is designed to be a progressive scale, with higher earners paying more to help provide “all needy people with a basic income, healthcare, education and housing.
http://www.infowars.com/un-wants-world-tax-to-help-the-poor/
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U.N has proposed a world tax before.
Its not the worst idea because instead of relying on donations after some disaster strikes you can use the money from taxes. Also it may help build up 3rd world countries which could expand some markets.
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The basic idea is good, i think. The problem is most of that money would be spent on bureaucracy instead of where it should go.
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no thanks!
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The problem in a lot of these 3rd world ****holes is not that they don't have money to feed their people.
It's that all money has to go in through the Dictator in charge, and there is no trickle down.
A world tax won't fix that.
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To 7734 with the UN. Who always has to bail out them out every time there is a crisis in the world?
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The problem in a lot of these 3rd world ****holes is not that they don't have money to feed their people.
It's that all money has to go in through the Dictator in charge, and there is no trickle down.
A world tax won't fix that.
that and when they ARE helped by different organizations, they still revert to their s***hole ways.
friend of mine joined the peace corp out of high school in 1994.
she has gone repeatedly to this one village that her family trust sponsored...improved conditions last for at most 6 months.
taxing the worlds transactions STILL will not change the dictator, and wont change the people either.
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I choose Kingdom of Lesotho as the baseline.
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The problem with the wealth distribution system ( socialism/progressivism) proposed by the UN, is that eventually you run out of other people's money to give to the so called poor.
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Hmmm....
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Throwing money at poverty does two things. Creates more poverty and entrenches the poverty pimps for whom poverty becomes a wealth generating business.
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I agree that every person in Ghana should have an Xbox too!
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I propose another solution.
Cleanse the world of useless people.
Give their stuff to useful people.
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I propose another solution.
Cleanse the world of useless people.
Give their stuff to useful people.
Nice bro, you just wiped out all of ACF is one post.
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I agree that every person in Ghana should have an Xbox too!
That would be awesome trash talk
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tillsb posted:
regulator_cracka posted:
I agree that every person in Ghana should have an Xbox too!
That would be awesome trash talk
"Your momma is so fat, that she.....oh wait she probably isn't......Your momma is so poor....."
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Cool idea, too bad many involved would exploit the revenue and funnel that money to themselves.
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regulator_cracka posted:
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I propose another solution.
Cleanse the world of useless people.
Give their stuff to useful people.
Nice bro, you just wiped out all of ACF is one post.
And 4chan... and Reddit...
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One should never be forced to give charity and worse one should never be forced to give to a specific (corrupt) charity.
That is essentially what this is.
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Ah-Schoo posted:
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Chogram posted:
<Rational discussion>
<Rational discussion>
Brother_Tempus posted:
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Hmmm....
Aerlinthian posted:
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I knew you'd chime in here.
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regulator_cracka posted:
I agree that every person in Ghana should have an Xbox too!
bullcrap! those guys would kick your ass on MW3
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Brother_Tempus posted:
The problem with the wealth distribution system ( socialism/progressivism) proposed by the UN, is that eventually you run out of other people's money to give to the so called poor.
The so called poor would probably be people in 3rd world countries in Africa,Asia and maybe Latin America. Its one thing to be against this. But lets not pretend those countries are not poor and couldn't use some help. I can see an argument on actually being against the tax based on the principle not our problem or no more taxes. However not even acknowledging the existence of a problem is selfish.
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If it was possible to not have 80% of the tax money go to politicians then there still is a very small chance I could get behind this.
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Money does little good when you cannot go out of your house to buy stuff in fear of being killed. giving poor income will not do anything to improve their lives, using the money on supplies and getting it to the people who need it is a better option. that being said this tax would fail to accomplish anything, but make dictatorships and warlords richer.
Aside from that the US strives on the inequality of other nations to get in and take what we want put whoever in charge and exploit the people for work for pennys on the dollar; we've been doing it for centuries. Why on earth would the bureaucratic greedy top elite support such a measure to take that inequality away? they made the IMF to keep a country down, not to help them; just look at the terms the country needs to agree on before they can use it.
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Governments, especially including our own, are HORRIBLE at managing taxes and spending yet people think it is a good idea they do so even more
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lol @ UN
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lol @ UN
Dont laugh at your future overlords.
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He was taken out of context. What he meant was we should kill everyone who is living below a certain level. This raises the average standard of living faster than any other action.
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Axispipe posted:
Money does little good when you cannot go out of your house to buy stuff in fear of being killed. giving poor income will not do anything to improve their lives, using the money on supplies and getting it to the people who need it is a better option. that being said this tax would fail to accomplish anything, but make dictatorships and warlords richer.
Aside from that the US strives on the inequality of other nations to get in and take what we want put whoever in charge and exploit the people for work for pennys on the dollar; we've been doing it for centuries. Why on earth would the bureaucratic greedy top elite support such a measure to take that inequality away? they made the IMF to keep a country down, not to help them; just look at the terms the country needs to agree on before they can use it.
Thats not true.
Look if a country lets say has warlords and a government that is recognized as corrupt the U.N could send some peace keeping troops and fund it with the tax. They could do things like monitor elections and the tax could pay for it. Area gets hit with a tsunami the people who should be paying and overseeing the rebuilding efforts shouldn't be local politicians but U.N people.
A good example might be the earthquake in Haiti. The country was destroyed in a blink of an eye. Still devastated by it. The U.n can give tax dollars to rebuild it. The U.S can then say look we gave at the office leave us alone.
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I propose another solution.
Cleanse the world of useless people.
Give their stuff to useful people.
Nice bro, you just wiped out all of ACF is one post.
speak for yourself
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And I want a purple flying horse that shoots laser beams out of its ass.
The safe money is on humanity making another colossal mistake.
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I had a good laugh at the local right-wing moron's radio show about this. He implied that the UN was united on this, actually had the power to do this, and gave no details about exactly what and how much. At one point he mentioned "15%" but never said of what, and I have no idea where even that number came from as it's not in the proposal.
Right wing talking heads are really good at regurgitating their talking point memos and being mildly entertaining, but that's about it. Another local host on the same station recently nearly tripped on his bottom lip and broke his f**king head because he was talking about democratic elections in some other country, but has been conditioned to say Frank Luntz's piss-off-the-liberals "Democrat" instead of "democratic," yet in three of four tries he simply couldn't make it work.
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This is an extraordinarily bad idea.
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that and when they ARE helped by different organizations, they still revert to their s***hole ways.
friend of mine joined the peace corp out of high school in 1994.
she has gone repeatedly to this one village that her family trust sponsored...improved conditions last for at most 6 months.
Sounds like your friend spends her time getting high and playing tourist rather than actually doing her job...
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Throwing money at something will not fix the problems... these places have been destroyed by capitalism/colonialism and the world exploiting them for their own benefit.
The U.N. should be using it expertise to help with Nation building and creating sustainable economies. People have lived in these areas for thousands of years just fine before they were pillaged... we need to help them build the institutions that were destroyed.
Also stop looking at this as a neutral thing... pretty much all of the third world is a former colony of some imperial power... if anything they should be forced to pay for what they created and not the rest of the world.
I fully support using the U.N. International Court of Justice to force these countries to pay back what they stole.
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Why don't they just implement a world minimum wage?
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-Kruugar- posted:
Why don't they just implement a world minimum wage?
I love this idea!
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Aerlinthian posted:
-Kruugar- posted:
Why don't they just implement a world minimum wage?
I love this idea!
If you really want to have fun, make it the same as the USA minimum wage.
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silvadel2 posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
-Kruugar- posted:
Why don't they just implement a world minimum wage?
I love this idea!
If you really want to have fun, make it the same as the USA minimum wage.
Who cares! Pick any minimum wage in the world, it will be glorious fun! 
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Waste of money.
A better use of money would be forced sterilization for about 3/4 of the worlds population.
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Geez Obama.
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there. fixed the title for you.
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that and when they ARE helped by different organizations, they still revert to their s***hole ways.
friend of mine joined the peace corp out of high school in 1994.
she has gone repeatedly to this one village that her family trust sponsored...improved conditions last for at most 6 months.
Sounds like your friend spends her time getting high and playing tourist rather than actually doing her job...
You can also tell that she has pink hair , wears size 6 shoes and drives a '94 Hyundai Accent.
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Great idea!
China and Russia veto.
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-Mithan- posted:
Waste of money.
A better use of money would be forced sterilization for about 3/4 of the worlds population.
love that idea
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