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I loaded up the Demo today and played through it, here are some thoughts:
-The game feels exactly like Diablo 1 and 2.
-The engine runs very smoothly.
-The game still retains the "dark" feel to it, even though the graphics are animated now and not following that "real" style they were aiming for back in the day.
-The UI is pretty good.
-The lack of stats doesn't really bother me much.
-The loot lottery is still as fun as it was back in the day.
-Crafting addition adds a lot to the game so far, wonder how it will hold up in the later levels.
My only gripe is that the textures are not as high res as you would expect in this day and age, especially when zoomed in. They are well done, but it seems one setting too low from what it should be. Of course, it is possible High Resolution Textures are not part of the beta.
So my only gripe is the textures.
Can't wait to play.
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will there be "trainers"?
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will there be "trainers"?
You have to be online and on Blizzard's servers at all times... sooooo
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that was part of the fun of D1: who could cheat the hardest
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that was part of the fun of D1: who could cheat the hardest
One time I got killed in town on a non-pk Diablo server.
Fun times...
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My only gripe is that the textures are not as high res as you would expect in this day and age, especially when zoomed in. They are well done, but it seems one setting too low from what it should be. Of course, it is possible High Resolution Textures are not part of the beta.
So my only gripe is the textures.
Can't wait to play.
My only issue too. I noticed that right off the bat but assumed it was because it's a beta..
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I think its amazing... I want to see how much money I can make off of selling items on the RMAH lol
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I think its amazing... I want to see how much money I can make off of selling items on the RMAH lol
I've heard this, but I haven't seen any exact info about it. Do they keep a % of each transaction or something?
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Ugh, its not cartoony like wow is it?
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Ugh, its not cartoony like wow is it?
Watch some videos. In my opinion its really cartoony.
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I'm on my phone now but will check out some videos when I get home
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Ugh, its not cartoony like wow is it?
Watch some videos. In my opinion its really cartoony.
lmao
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I agree with you Mithan, the game is great. I just wish the beta was longer.
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that was part of the fun of D1: who could cheat the hardest
my time in D1 was someone killed me then felt bad and duped his entire gear set for me and then he said have fun and logged off i was in such a state of shock i never played multiplayer again lmao
and also Mithan give us thoughts on classes plskkthx
I'd like to hear what you think of the Monk and Demon Hunter
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Mithan,
How do you feel about the fact that there is, as far as I can see, virtually no character personalization. Every *class* has the same skills, the same level at given character level, etc etc.
If I play a *class* and my buddy plays the same *class*, from what I understand we will be the exact same every level of the game besides items.
True?
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Gildash posted:
Mithan,
How do you feel about the fact that there is, as far as I can see, virtually no character personalization. Every *class* has the same skills, the same level at given character level, etc etc.
If I play a *class* and my buddy plays the same *class*, from what I understand we will be the exact same every level of the game besides items.
True?
There are like 7 or something Runes, and each one changes an ability in some way. Every ability basically has 7 versions of it. So, yes if you Rune all your abilities the exact same way, you will be identical. You won't, though.
Hey Mithan, at some point I might need your help to get one of the Co-Op Achievements. Getting the one to revive every class seems really stupid, as dying in the beta is pretty hard to do.
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Elaok posted:
I'd like to hear what you think of the Monk and Demon Hunter
I'll give you a little on the Monk as it is the first class I will play on release.
The beta is definitely on Easy setting and it shows with the Monk. I finished Act 1 without ever using a health potion and I don't think I ever lost more than 20% health on any fight. I am not cautious either, big fights are what I look for so it wasn't caution that kept the damage down.
You don't get a lot of skills in Act 1 so not much to report. You unlock slots to put skills on as you level so in Act 1 you never get more than 3 maximum skills to put on your UI. You get Spirit building skills as well as Spirit consuming, think finisher, skills. You also get access to Buffs, I forget what they were called. I pretty much suck with the builder that projected spirit at a short range and the finisher that drew in mobs around you at a short range and inflicts damage to them all. For a while I also used a finisher that was basically a round house (aoe) kick that was nice.
I noticed a heal in the finisher column but never even considered using it as Act 1 is just so damn easy. Honestly, you have to jump into a mass of mobs and go afk to die in the first Act. You also get a companion towards the end and you can select some of his skills as well, one being a heal so you can also benefit from that as well.
The buff I eventually put on my bar was one that increased my dodge rate confirming my assumption that Monks would rely on evasion as we are Light Armor wearers. Everything seemed to point to a class that uses speed to dash in, unload gobs of damage, and dash out as required to mitigate incoming damage if it gets too high. Seems a very survivable class from the skills I could see.
You are a dual wielder and have access to a variety of weapons but the class defining weapons are the fist weapons (very reminiscent to UA weapons in AC).
As Mithan stated, crafting looks very useful as I could always craft armor and weapons better than the 3 vendors in New Tristram. It is also fairly easy as you salvage magical items (the higher the rarity, the higher the mats) for mats and sell the rest. Depending on the quantity and rarity of mats, you can craft equally rare weapons and armor. You can upgrade the Blacksmith NPC's skills to open up better recipes. He also repairs your gear.
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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:
Elaok posted:
I'd like to hear what you think of the Monk and Demon Hunter
I'll give you a little on the Monk as it is the first class I will play on release.
The beta is definitely on Easy setting and it shows with the Monk. I finished Act 1 without ever using a health potion and I don't think I ever lost more than 20% health on any fight. I am not cautious either, big fights are what I look for so it wasn't caution that kept the damage down.
You don't get a lot of skills in Act 1 so not much to report. You unlock slots to put skills on as you level so in Act 1 you never get more than 3 maximum skills to put on your UI. You get Spirit building skills as well as Spirit consuming, think finisher, skills. You also get access to Buffs, I forget what they were called. I pretty much stuck with the builder that projected spirit at a short range and the finisher that drew in mobs around you at a short range and inflicts damage to them all. For a while I also used a finisher that was basically a round house (aoe) kick that was nice.
I noticed a heal in the finisher column but never even considered using it as Act 1 is just so damn easy. Honestly, you have to jump into a mass of mobs and go afk to die in the first Act. You also get a companion towards the end and you can select some of his skills as well, one being a heal so you can also benefit from that as well.
The buff I eventually put on my bar was one that increased my dodge rate confirming my assumption that Monks would rely on evasion as we are Light Armor wearers. Everything seemed to point to a class that uses speed to dash in, unload gobs of damage, and dash out as required to mitigate incoming damage if it gets too high. Seems a very survivable class from the skills I could see.
You are a dual wielder and have access to a variety of weapons but the class defining weapons are the fist weapons (very reminiscent to UA weapons in AC).
As Mithan stated, crafting looks very useful as I could always craft armor and weapons better than the 3 vendors in New Tristram. It is also fairly easy as you salvage magical items (the higher the rarity, the higher the mats) for mats and sell the rest. Depending on the quantity and rarity of mats, you can craft equally rare weapons and armor. You can upgrade the Blacksmith NPC's skills to open up better recipes. He also repairs your gear.
Hope this helps some.
Some slight corrections to this, in the beta you get 4 slots for skills(4th being at 12), and the buffs you get are Mantras, basically auras. The beta ends I think either 25% or 33% through Act 1, on Normal Difficulty, so yeah it's not really intended to be hard. Even playing with 4 people, and mobs have 3x the health, I've only *almost* died once, and that wasn't even as a Monk. The game will get harder.
Monks also get 2 "class defining" waepons, one being the fist weapons like knuckles and what not, but they also get a 2h weapon, staves basically. Which seem infinitley better than dual-wield, as skills are based off weapon damage and speed, and the 2h weapons make their crap hit much, much harder.
When I played through on Monk, I stuck with the Dash attack to get around, the Spirit Builder that does AoE damage/snares and the Lash Tail Kick for a spirit dump. Monk is one of my favorite classes, and will be easily one of the best soloists.
Demon Hunter on the other hand, I am not a huge fan of. Their damage potential, IN THE BETA, is pretty low. They get some decent skills later on, and Runes definitely will impact their skills, but in the beta they seem just awful. The only thing worse, is Witch Doctor.
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Yeah, I was lvl 9 when I finished the beta so never got to 12 for the next open slot. I either never picked up a Staff or just wasn't paying attention but would prefer that over the DW fist weapons.
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Also, at 10 you get a Passive. There are 3 slots total, I think at 10, 20 and 30. Every class has like 12 to 15 different passives, that either give bonuses to stats/etc (Barbarian gets +5% crit/+50% crit damage etc) or bonuses to skills (Witch Doctor gets one that gives +20% damage to various Pet based skills).
Runes are the biggest thing that isn't in the Beta right now. It completely changes skills, and I wish they had it in testing. oh well.
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i went all the way through the beta with each class. it's amazing how much more powerful the barbarian si compared to everything else. it's almost ridiculous.
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Elaok posted:
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that was part of the fun of D1: who could cheat the hardest
my time in D1 was someone killed me then felt bad and duped his entire gear set for me and then he said have fun and logged off i was in such a state of shock i never played multiplayer again lmao
and also Mithan give us thoughts on classes plskkthx
I'd like to hear what you think of the Monk and Demon Hunter
I played the Barbarian and its powerful. The game is easy with this class. I never even came close to dying or even 50% health.
Gildash posted:
Mithan,
How do you feel about the fact that there is, as far as I can see, virtually no character personalization. Every *class* has the same skills, the same level at given character level, etc etc.
If I play a *class* and my buddy plays the same *class*, from what I understand we will be the exact same every level of the game besides items.
True?
No idea, but from what I see the, the limited "quick slots" and all the other crap should act to differentiate.
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I'm playing the mage... I'm sorry wizard, if you are looking for diablo 1 and 2 then Diablo 3 is the game for you. same feel.
except my skills, no real skill trees, just hey look you are the next level here is a new skill for you that everyone else has.
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I also just read something saying that Blizzard considers Act 1 to basically be a tutorial, which is why it is so easy.
I hope that it true.
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Mithan,
How do you feel about the fact that there is, as far as I can see, virtually no character personalization. Every *class* has the same skills, the same level at given character level, etc etc.
If I play a *class* and my buddy plays the same *class*, from what I understand we will be the exact same every level of the game besides items.
True?
Read and be educated.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3811455085
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I also just read something saying that Blizzard considers Act 1 to basically be a tutorial, which is why it is so easy.
I hope that it true.
Normal mode in Diablo 1 and 2 both could be beaten with only a slight amount of trouble with any class in the game.
Neither one was really much of a challenge until you upped the difficulty later.
I'm interested in the new difficulty... every single mob the same level, higher than your cap. Should be interesting.
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oh Diablo 3 beta, how nice, glad everyone is having a good time
Lmao
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oh Diablo 3 beta, how nice, glad everyone is having a good time
It's a WoW killer.
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Read and be educated.
did you forget where you were posting???
ACF does not read nor get educated!
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I will probably skip it. Im pissed they only have one heavy melee class. Witch Doctor? Demon Hunter? Lame....
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I will probably skip it. Im pissed they only have one heavy melee class. Witch Doctor? Demon Hunter? Lame....
Monk and Barbarian are melee...
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The more research I do on the game the less I want to play it
Just waiting on release
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that was part of the fun of D1: who could cheat the hardest
I used a rogue for that. I cheated many dick cheaters into oblivion.
All you needed to do was a dual equip hacked bows. One bow with knockback, one bow with an elemental damage effect.
All cheaters were locked down, the dual elemental/knockback locked them in place even if they weren't taking damage so they couldn't move as long as you kept firing. Their character was going through the effects of being hit. It even glitched a few times and killed godmoded players (don't know how that happened). Their hacks were obviously inferior.
The rage that followed was hilarious... usually resulted in them logging, they didn't even come back.
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Ah-Schoo posted:
FineYoungCannibals posted:
oh Diablo 3 beta, how nice, glad everyone is having a good time
It's a WoW killer.
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Beat me to it.
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aon_mixed posted:
that was part of the fun of D1: who could cheat the hardest
I used a rogue for that. I cheated many dick cheaters into oblivion.
All you needed to do was a dual equip hacked bows. One bow with knockback, one bow with an elemental damage effect.
All cheaters were locked down, the dual elemental/knockback locked them in place even if they weren't taking damage so they couldn't move as long as you kept firing. Their character was going through the effects of being hit. It even glitched a few times and killed godmoded players (don't know how that happened). Their hacks were obviously inferior.
The rage that followed was hilarious... usually resulted in them logging, they didn't even come back.
The anti-cheat that I ran made it so that anything fired from a player passed through me instead of hitting me 
And people wonder why Blizzard did away with storing character data locally lol
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Mithan did you hear anything more about 'hardcore' mode?
Apparently there is a flag/banner achievement for hardcore, but my brother said hardcore is a stage of the game, like level 4...
That there is not going to be a 'die once and hero stays dead' hardcore like they had in D2...
I didn't see one in the Beta, but that doesn't really mean anything...
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that would be incorrect Vlad. Nightmare is the 4th difficulty and to begin a hardcore character, you just need to beat the game on normal.
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You can see the Hardcore button on character select, it's an option just like in D2. You just have to beat the game on Normal to make one.
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Talehon69 posted:
You can see the Hardcore button on character select, it's an option just like in D2. You just have to beat the game on Normal to make one.
Cool beans.
Thanks guys.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHLzcl7IwxM
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