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like you....
THEN THEY TOOK AN ARAB TO THE KNEE!
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Now they are building something even bigger and better
The worst after effect of that event as the two wars that resulted and the loss of Americans rights
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Hah, bahahahahaha that's a good 1.
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Ever notice how nobody ever talks about how WTC #7 fell that day? I mean, it fell in on itself too, but yet wasn't hit by a jet. Everyone says "oh, it was the heat from the other buildings". Their reason the other towers fell in is "jet fuel". Yet there was no jet fuel on #7.
/let's here it, spin doctors!
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It wasn't heat, it was the debris from the giant skyscrapers.
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
It wasn't heat, it was the debris from the giant skyscrapers.
... that strategically knocked out all the building's supports in the exact way to make it fall into its own footprint.
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I still preferred this design for the rebuild.
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BubbleDude posted:
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It wasn't heat, it was the debris from the giant skyscrapers.
... that strategically knocked out all the building's supports in the exact way to make it fall into its own footprint.
Well, if the debris fell somewhere near the center, it would probably collapse in on itself.
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Friarspam posted:
Ever notice how nobody ever talks about how WTC #7 fell that day? I mean, it fell in on itself too, but yet wasn't hit by a jet. Everyone says "oh, it was the heat from the other buildings". Their reason the other towers fell in is "jet fuel". Yet there was no jet fuel on #7.
/let's here it, spin doctors!
http://xkcd.com/966/
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Well, if the debris fell somewhere near the center, it would probably collapse in on itself.
How would that be possible?
So now that your "if" doesn't apply how would you account for a perfect global collapse?
If half of the supports gave way at once, the other half wouldn't be pulled down and if it was damaged enough that it did collapse because of the initial collapse it wouldn't have been a global, uniform collapse. Right?
Can we get back to talking about Skyrim?
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Can we get back to talking about Skyrim?
Dragons are way to easy to solo, and being able to complete the 'main' storyline by level 17 sucks...
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illmyrin posted:
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Well, if the debris fell somewhere near the center, it would probably collapse in on itself.
How would that be possible?
So now that your "if" doesn't apply how would you account for a perfect global collapse?
If half of the supports gave way at once, the other half wouldn't be pulled down and if it was damaged enough that it did collapse because of the initial collapse it wouldn't have been a global, uniform collapse. Right?
Can we get back to talking about Skyrim?
Apparently it was a global, uniform collapse. Your theory doesn't hold up too well to reality, does it?
I moved on to Assassins Creed. Just beat the single player and am rounding up some data fragments before throwing myself into the multiplayer. Unfortunately, my first impression is that the multiplayer on brotherhood was much better.
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"Apparently it was a global, uniform collapse. Your theory doesn't hold up too well to reality, does it?"
Believe me, I know what you're saying. But you're not thinking about what you're saying first. Otherwise you'd know "my theory" is not a theory.
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reesescups posted:
illmyrin posted:
Can we get back to talking about Skyrim?
Dragons are way to easy to solo, and being able to complete the 'main' storyline by level 17 sucks...
What class structure? I went sneaky-zooming archer specializing in enchant, alch and smithing. I enchant gear for alch bonuses, put it on, make potions of enchanting, drink them, enchant new alch gear and keep going till you're rocking enough alch+enchanting bonuses to make killer SMITHING GEAR AND POTIONS!
My bow does nearly 400 dmg a hit, sucks a soul and paralyzes. I one shot nearly all humanoids and most frost trolls and I've got a special bow that burns mammoths down in one good sneak attack+fire dmg.
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Ok, so they put controlled explosives in building 7, hoped no one would notice that a plane didn't fly into it, and put controlled explosives in the two skyscrapers, hoping no one would notice the charges on every single level. And they did this to draw us into a war in Iraq by saying the Saudi (I don't know the conspiracy word for dead guys who never really existed)'s on Al Qaeda and Afghanis. The plane that flew into the Pentagon was actually a missle and the people who saw the plane are all brainwashed spooks.
How are you doing in Skyrim, ill?
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Ok, so they put controlled explosives in building 7, hoped no one would notice that a plane didn't fly into it, and put controlled explosives in the two skyscrapers, hoping no one would notice the charges on every single level. And they did this to draw us into a war in Iraq by saying the Saudi (I don't know the conspiracy word for dead guys who never really existed)'s on Al Qaeda and Afghanis. The plane that flew into the Pentagon was actually a missle and the people who saw the plane are all brainwashed spooks.
How are you doing in Skyrim, ill?
Kicking major ass in Skyrim!
"so they put controlled explosives in building 7"
yup
"and put controlled explosives in the two skyscrapers, hoping no one would notice the charges on every single level"
Superman was on vacation so X-ray vision is out-bomb sniffing dogs were removed from patrol the two weeks prior to the event, coinciding with power blackouts and construction throughout all levels. During this time it is possible to place charges beyond normal human sight.
"And they did this to draw us into a war in Iraq"
No, they did this to decapitate the US government, remember, flight 93 never got to kill Congress as planned. Iraq was a target of opportunity and an effort to salvage the failed coup.
"The plane that flew into the Pentagon was actually a missle and the people who saw the plane are all brainwashed spooks."
Perhaps! But we'll have to wait for the FBI to release the hundred or so security films they seized within 15 min of impact.
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There is no good explanation for why WTC 7 fell. There is no good explanation for why the MSM never made an issue about why WTC 7 fell.
I'm very confident that there is a good reason, but it's quite clear that the reason has been covered up.
My guess is that there was something in WTC 7 whose security could not be compromised. Something so important that someone in DC decided it was better to drop the entire building than risk losing control of security for one second.
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Conspiracy theories are awesome. I guess, reality is overwhelming to some, and people turn their bias, fear, gullibility, and mistrust into unrealistic alternative explanations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_controlled_demolition_conspiracy_theories
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There is no good explanation for why WTC 7 fell. There is no good explanation for why the MSM never made an issue about why WTC 7 fell.
I'm very confident that there is a good reason, but it's quite clear that the reason has been covered up.
My guess is that there was something in WTC 7 whose security could not be compromised. Something so important that someone in DC decided it was better to drop the entire building than risk losing control of security for one second.
Considering that it went down while a reporter was doing the story on the on-going buildings burning I'd say that it had to be pre-prepared.
People want to believe the jet fuel story. It's a lot nicer than the alternative.
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Manegarm posted:
gonna use this every time you post a thread about drinking or religion. And to be fair every ramones thread by badger and pleatedjeans/bitsandpieces by paul
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paulg_68 posted:
There is no good explanation for why WTC 7 fell. There is no good explanation for why the MSM never made an issue about why WTC 7 fell.
I'm very confident that there is a good reason, but it's quite clear that the reason has been covered up.
My guess is that there was something in WTC 7 whose security could not be compromised. Something so important that someone in DC decided it was better to drop the entire building than risk losing control of security for one second.
Shall I dig up a good explanation?
Illmyrin 7/31/07 posted:
WTC 7 served as the operational command bunker for the entire event, motive for its own demolition. Aside from that building 7 also housed the banking centers responsible for the put option trading as well as HIGHLY suspect trades on the morning of the event. It was also the place though which 100 million dollars was wired to Atta from the same Pakistani General who sat with Bush Sr at breakfast on 9-11. Further building 7 was the head quarters of the FBI offices investigating Dyncorp and Enron, all evidence was destroyed. Means motive and Opportunity.
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What class structure?
Dual wielding Light Armor assassin. Went through Thieves guild (nightingale armor), then through Dark Brotherhood. Currently level 48.
I am working on alchemy and enchanting now. Think Alch is around 60-70 range, enchanting is in the low 80's I believe - neither have any perks yet though. Perks are in Smithing (100), Light Armor (100), one-handed (low 90's), Sneaking (100), Lockpicking (80's) and speech (80's).
My enchanted blades swords are rated at over 100 damage, with sneak bonus very few mobs take more than the initial swing. Those that do last through the initial sneak bonus, have to deal with the one-handed damage bonus perks... After the initial attack comes the swirl barrage of metal slashing through their flesh - that usually takes care of all but the most badassed... Armor rating is 571 I believe - so not many mobs can do any damage to me.
Haven't put a single bit into mana, so it's all str and dex Think it's 400 hits and 320 stamina...
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