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I'm thinking about picking it up tomorrow. I haven't played another MMO since WoW so I hope it's a good one!

 

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if you liked WoW You'll like SWTOR, from what I've heard.

I only played it briefly at PAX, and it was basically in Jedi Knight mode.

 

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Sith whines and complains about it every other day so its probably good.

 

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i heard it killed WoW.

 

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I hated WoW, and i absolutely love TOR

 

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I hated WoW, and i absolutely love TOR


buddy of mine was the exact opposite.

 

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It's WoW in space, with less content.

 

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hope you like corridors!

 

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Well of course its got less content than wow, its newer

 

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there is ALOT of running back and forth you have to do especially if you just do the main class quests

 

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Single player game with a chat box.

 

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been playing it for two days with jake and pate
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Subject: So what's the word on SW TOR?
Fozzie_Bear posted:
Well of course its got less content than wow, its newer


Doesn't really change anything. Why play the same game with less content.

 

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been playing it for a month+ and having lots of fun, really enjoy the class stories and the flashpoints are fun. it needs work on a lot of the little things like a dungeon finder, auction house tweeks, pop imbalance between factions, the travel system. but none of the problems are deal breakers

 

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BTW, if you play 12AM - 6AM PST, expect that you won't get to play Monday as a rule and any other day they get a bug up their asses to patch the game. Sometimes that's Wednesday to fix their crappy patch, other times it might be a weekend.

 

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its a good game and fun when its playable, but their "instant" patch and updating process leaves much to be desired.
the testing process for these patches and updates is really short or non existent like a couple days.

and if you have a issue and need customer service support you can forget about a timely response.

but other than that I play it everyday.

 

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Talehon69 posted:
Fozzie_Bear posted:
Well of course its got less content than wow, its newer


Doesn't really change anything. Why play the same game with less content.


you know... I been running around a while now and havent found Thrall... what planets he on again?

oh wait... TOTALLY different game

listen, what we are talking about is the VOLUME of content here, not what the content is. Simply put, wow has more of it and since its been out longer its possible it always will.

so what?

WoW is WoW and SWTOR is SWTOR. different game even with its similarities

 

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there is a bunch of content if you chose to do all the quests and bonus series quests.

I hit lvl 50 on Voss.

Now endgame content is kinda lacking heroic modes and daily's is about it and warzones.

I no longer do non class story quests anymore because I dont need the xp or crap gear.

once I get this bh geared out properly I will role another class or finish one of my other characters.

 

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fk endgame. the last time I had some "raid boss" trying to tell me what to do I wanted to reach through the vent server and beat the everloving crap out of him.

but if thats your bag, sure maybe you will find the game "lacking" from that perspective *shrugs* dunno

 

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I had a blast going through 1 to 50 on my Sentinel. Started up a smuggler but got diverted by replaying Mass Effect 1 and 2.

 

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Just remember, if something is wrong with your install, or goes wrong after you're playing the game a bit - like you happen to die - reformat.

 

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Its your typical MMO that is fun as hell... Calling it WoW in space is a joke since WoW doesn't do anything original. It just takes from all the games and implements them so they don't lose players. WoW is nothing more than a clone of every other game on the market and a marketing machine.

That said... SWTOR is definitely worth a try if you are a star wars geek. I'm having a blast playing it, and I love watching the cut scenes in every quest.

 

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It plays like a single player game. It is fun for a while but the boredom sets in pretty fast imho.

 

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Anyone remember what the end game content was when WoW first came out? Anyone? I'll give you a hint... Molten Core wasn't in yet, there were no world dragons, PvP was ALL open world.. No Battlegrounds or Arena.

Our End game was Black rock... SWTOR is already ahead of the curve. WoW has had nearly 8 years to get to the point it is now. SWTOR already has around half as much content and many unique and fun features. Will it be "the WoW Killer?" Absolutely not. The only thing that will kill WoW is time. Will it be successful for years to come? I think yes. Its a strong IP, a good company with lots of money, and Lucas himself is involved in it (he wasn't involved in SWG at all.) I personally don't care if it ever overtakes WoW as the greatest game ever. For me its a fun game to play until Planetside 2 gets released.

 

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some "raid boss" trying to tell me what to do


Yeah gotta hate those know-it-all raid bosses tongue



Raid boss is the thing you kill, raid leader is the dickhead telling you what to do. I still love you though hugs

 

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Its your typical MMO that is fun as hell... Calling it WoW in space is a joke since WoW doesn't do anything original. It just takes from all the games and implements them so they don't lose players. WoW is nothing more than a clone of every other game on the market and a marketing machine. That said... SWTOR is definitely worth a try if you are a star wars geek. I'm having a blast playing it, and I love watching the cut scenes in every quest.
oh you mean like SWTOR took all the good pvp elements from Warhammer online right? Considering they hired almost all of the people who worked on Warhammer to work on SWTOR(literally) .  Just saying, WoW isnt the only other game to 'steal' ideas from other games nor will it be the last.

 

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SWTOR is a great game, it has very few bugs and the quests and story line are fun.

You're not forced to group, you will always get a few group only quests that you can choose to do or not do.

 

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Aethelgrin posted:
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some "raid boss" trying to tell me what to do


Yeah gotta hate those know-it-all raid bosses tongue



Raid boss is the thing you kill, raid leader is the dickhead telling you what to do. I still love you though hugs


eh... given the opportunity I'd have looted them both by the end of the night

 

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oh you mean like SWTOR took all the good pvp elements from Warhammer online right? Considering they hired almost all of the people who worked on Warhammer to work on SWTOR(literally) .  Just saying, WoW isnt the only other game to 'steal' ideas from other games nor will it be the last.


is that why SWTOR pvp is terrible? There was nothing good in Warhammer's pvp system except for "Queue for Battleground anywhere"

 

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Its your typical MMO that is fun as hell... Calling it WoW in space is a joke since WoW doesn't do anything original. It just takes from all the games and implements them so they don't lose players. WoW is nothing more than a clone of every other game on the market and a marketing machine. That said... SWTOR is definitely worth a try if you are a star wars geek. I'm having a blast playing it, and I love watching the cut scenes in every quest.
oh you mean like SWTOR took all the good pvp elements from Warhammer online right? Considering they hired almost all of the people who worked on Warhammer to work on SWTOR(literally) .  Just saying, WoW isnt the only other game to 'steal' ideas from other games nor will it be the last.


it's really not even worth paying attention to those that accuse and MMO of cloning an aspect of another game.

 

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I'm still enjoying it, playing 1-50 is a lot like playing a single player game, I figure that was their strategy to get everyone to 50 quick so they could focus content on 1 group of people post-launch...

lost some motivation after hitting 50, still playing tho!

 

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Anyone remember what the end game content was when WoW first came out? Anyone? I'll give you a hint... Molten Core wasn't in yet, there were no world dragons, PvP was ALL open world.. No Battlegrounds or Arena.

Our End game was Black rock... SWTOR is already ahead of the curve. WoW has had nearly 8 years to get to the point it is now. SWTOR already has around half as much content and many unique and fun features. Will it be "the WoW Killer?" Absolutely not. The only thing that will kill WoW is time. Will it be successful for years to come? I think yes. Its a strong IP, a good company with lots of money, and Lucas himself is involved in it (he wasn't involved in SWG at all.) I personally don't care if it ever overtakes WoW as the greatest game ever. For me its a fun game to play until Planetside 2 gets released.



Lolwhat, Molten Core was in at launch. So was Onyxia. There was even a contest during Beta if a guild could kill Onyxia before the beta ended, they could get their guild name reserved.

Not to mention lol at having half of WoWs content, that's wrong and you know it.

 

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Endgame is nothing ground-breaking. I've been 50 for a few weeks, it's the usual gear grind. The gameplay mechanics are solid (and WoW-like) so it's not too painful...I just wish they had more dailies, and the dailies were a bit shorter.

Levelling is what draws you in, though. You can't quite write the game off as WoW in space, because levelling in WoW is insanely boring, the storylines are stupid, the quests are mundane, and you don't even read the quest text. In SWTOR each planet has a unique storyline running alongside of your class story, and most of the quests are more than just 'bring me 8 boar meat'.

I also really like the gear mod system. I've been wearing the same gear for 35 levels because I haven't seen anything I like the look of better yet, and I'm not punished for that because I can toss mods in to make it more and more powerful.

I don't PvP so I won't speak to that.

SWTOR is missing a few things, though, that are supposedly coming soon. Lack of UI customization is probably my biggest gripe, but that's coming in the next major patch, I believe. I already mentioned the lack of dailies at endgame level (there's like...10, maybe, if you don't count group dailies). While each planet is designed with great detail, the flashpoints and even just common caves are somewhat boring - different corridors with a palate/texture swap. The space combat is pretty, but it's dull and feels out of place when compared to the rest of the game.

 

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Endgame is nothing ground-breaking. I've been 50 for a few weeks, it's the usual gear grind. The gameplay mechanics are solid (and WoW-like) so it's not too painful...I just wish they had more dailies, and the dailies were a bit shorter.

Levelling is what draws you in, though. You can't quite write the game off as WoW in space, because levelling in WoW is insanely boring, the storylines are stupid, the quests are mundane, and you don't even read the quest text. In SWTOR each planet has a unique storyline running alongside of your class story, and most of the quests are more than just 'bring me 8 boar meat'.

I also really like the gear mod system. I've been wearing the same gear for 35 levels because I haven't seen anything I like the look of better yet, and I'm not punished for that because I can toss mods in to make it more and more powerful.

I don't PvP so I won't speak to that.

SWTOR is missing a few things, though, that are supposedly coming soon. Lack of UI customization is probably my biggest gripe, but that's coming in the next major patch, I believe. I already mentioned the lack of dailies at endgame level (there's like...10, maybe, if you don't count group dailies). While each planet is designed with great detail, the flashpoints and even just common caves are somewhat boring - different corridors with a palate/texture swap. The space combat is pretty, but it's dull and feels out of place when compared to the rest of the game.


pretty much this, from the start its better then WoW was if you ask me. WoW as what 7 or 8 years of updates few xpacks. i think as far as the base game goes its better then WoW. it needs time and thats something we dont give mmorpgs now.

as far as pvp i like what they have, the warzone are fine need more but they are cool, hutball i really like other 2 are pretty much WoW bgs. ilum is where i want to pvp its something WoW does not have, as it is now does not work, i have hope they will find a way to make it work. this is where my end game would be if they could fix it.

 

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oh you mean like SWTOR took all the good pvp elements from Warhammer online right? Considering they hired almost all of the people who worked on Warhammer to work on SWTOR(literally) .  Just saying, WoW isnt the only other game to 'steal' ideas from other games nor will it be the last.


that was EA basically shifting personal from one department to another department.

 

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It's WoW in space, with less content.


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i heard it killed WoW.


Wow killed wow.

 

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I tried some PvP today. Never thought I'd see PvP worse than WoW's, but oh man, it's bad.

God, I miss AC sometimes.

 

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I tried some PvP today. Never thought I'd see PvP worse than WoW's, but oh man, it's bad.

God, I miss AC sometimes.

Me too devil

 

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Gilligan.USCG posted:
Dark_EternalFF posted:
I tried some PvP today. Never thought I'd see PvP worse than WoW's, but oh man, it's bad.

God, I miss AC sometimes.

Me too devil


In AC, when someone killed me, it was because they were better than I was. In this game, you just get chain-CC'd to death. I spent more time getting back to the battlefield than I did attacking.

 

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Dark_EternalFF posted:
Gilligan.USCG posted:
Dark_EternalFF posted:
I tried some PvP today. Never thought I'd see PvP worse than WoW's, but oh man, it's bad.

God, I miss AC sometimes.

Me too devil


In AC, when someone killed me, it was because they were better than I was. In this game, you just get chain-CC'd to death. I spent more time getting back to the battlefield than I did attacking.


Yep.

AC had the best PvP of any MMO, ever. Plus I loved our fights outside Sub tongue

 

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Yah. Only game I've ever seen where you could kill someone much higher level than you if you knew what you were doing. Not this gearbased rock-paper-scissors bullisht.

 

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Yah. Only game I've ever seen where you could kill someone much higher level than you if you knew what you were doing. Not this gearbased rock-paper-scissors bullisht.


Pretty much. And kids think PvP in games now is OMGSOMUCHSKILLZ

 

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The gameplay is very similar to WoW - you won't have any real difficulties adapting if you've played WoW. PvP seems in some sense like a modified version of WAR...a fair amount of CC and knockbacks, but not to the extent that WAR was a few months post-release. Honestly, there's nothing I've seen that's new or ground breaking. Some of my friends say the companion thing is, but they mostly are just different avenues to the same grinds.

 

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Gilligan.USCG posted:
Dark_EternalFF posted:
Yah. Only game I've ever seen where you could kill someone much higher level than you if you knew what you were doing. Not this gearbased rock-paper-scissors bullisht.


Pretty much. And kids think PvP in games now is OMGSOMUCHSKILLZ


It was fun rocking 126s as a level 70 in AC. Or taking on 6v1s. Good times, the best of times.

 

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Cat's go meow, dogs go woof, cows go moo, and PvP players complain about PvP.

 

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Is there a common server a lot of ACFers are playing on?

 

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I've never gotten a real answer on that question. I would roll a toon on it if there was.

Im on Whiterun. its low population which is fantastic for me. still a decent bunch of folks on during prime time

 

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Gilligan.USCG posted:
Dark_EternalFF posted:
Yah. Only game I've ever seen where you could kill someone much higher level than you if you knew what you were doing. Not this gearbased rock-paper-scissors bullisht.


Pretty much. And kids think PvP in games now is OMGSOMUCHSKILLZ



You can blame that on WOW.

 

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You guys don't know me but I'm on Ajunta Pall

 

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I will probably try this game in the summer... I'm having fun in Rift right now.

 

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Lyli posted:
Is there a common server a lot of ACFers are playing on?


No, we all roll on separate servers and then try to convince everyone else to move to ours. That's the way it works tongue

I'm on Master Zhar Lestin, in a guild with some RL friends.

 

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SWTOR is a great game, it has very few bugs and the quests and story line are fun.

You're not forced to group, you will always get a few group only quests that you can choose to do or not do.




So you are forced to group to experience all of the content. No game forces you to group if you look at it like "well just don't do the group stuff" because you can always just log in and look around in the safe areas.

 

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Dark_EternalFF posted:
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Is there a common server a lot of ACFers are playing on?


No, we all roll on separate servers and then try to convince everyone else to move to ours. That's the way it works tongue

I'm on Master Zhar Lestin, in a guild with some RL friends.


Now your RL friends are going to be your OL friends, can that even be possible? Paradox!

 

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