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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. -- John 3:16

Mormons believe. Do the "real Christians" believe that they will be sharing heaven with "non-Christian Mormon scum?"

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If mormons believe in the Christian Christ and believe he is the only way to heaven then yes they are saved and then they are no longer Mormons but Christians

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Even though you and I are in the rare position of agreeing on this topic, you're still a douche for starting another thread to restate your same argument like you always do.

 

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The more kids mormons have the higher celestial place they gain.


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That's not how it was explained to me, but I didn't hear it from a Temple-attending Mormon either. I always thought it was kind of like how the big money families used to judge their wealth by the number of servants in the household, because the father would be head of the celestial family in the afterlife (which also tied into the polygamy thing they used to dig).

I suppose the Amway model could work, too.

 

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i do not find Mormons any more ridiculous than other peoples that also worship imaginary things

they are all tards as far as i am concerned

 

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They have to pay their 10% (gross, not net), get married in their temple, follow all the rules, etc., then they get to go to the highest of the 3 kingdoms of heaven. You could get into the lowest level of heaven, which is reserved for even thieves and murderers, without believing in Jesus at all, really. Joseph Smith said we would kill ourselves to get there if we had a glimpse of how beautiful and wonderful it was. So I guess Hitler is hanging out there. Christians get to go to the 2nd level of heaven because we believe in Jesus but don't accept the Mormon church and doctrines.

 

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Eithne_Boadicea posted:
Christians get to go to the 2nd level of heaven because we believe in Jesus but don't accept the Mormon church and doctrines.


That's more generous than many other Christian sects in terms of what they say is going to happen to members of other Christian sects re: getting to heaven.

So based on what you said the Mormons seem one of the more moderate varieties of Christianity. grin

 

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Pretty sure they will get into Mormon Heaven but not the Heaven of all the other Christian varieties... This is true vice versa of all of the varieties...

 

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Eithne_Boadicea posted:
Christians get to go to the 2nd level of heaven because we believe in Jesus but don't accept the Mormon church and doctrines.


That's more generous than many other Christian sects in terms of what they say is going to happen to members of other Christian sects re: getting to heaven.

So based on what you said the Mormons seem one of the more moderate varieties of Christianity. grin


So it's better to be lukewarm?

 

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St Catherine of Sienna offers this sage insight: It's heaven all the way to heaven.

 

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Eithne_Boadicea posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
Eithne_Boadicea posted:
Christians get to go to the 2nd level of heaven because we believe in Jesus but don't accept the Mormon church and doctrines.


That's more generous than many other Christian sects in terms of what they say is going to happen to members of other Christian sects re: getting to heaven.

So based on what you said the Mormons seem one of the more moderate varieties of Christianity. grin


So it's better to be lukewarm?


You can have your own opinion on the right and wrong of it. But they definitely seem like more moderate Christians than, say, deep south baptists who think all Catholics are going straight to hell. grin

 

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Dumb thread, to teh top!

 

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I can't tell if people really don't know what they are talking about or are just lying outright.

Either way, anything said with the intent to deceive is a lie.

The only thing I saw that was actually accurate was the line about Joseph Smith saying that if we could see the lowest level of heaven we would kill ourselves to be there.

They don't believe suicide gets you into heaven. Quite the opposite.

Mormons also don't have children in order to get into heaven.

They do it because they believe that they have the "fullness of the truth" and want as many people as possible to have it.

So they have lots of kids so lots of people have the "truth".

Makes sense if you believe in their stuff and also makes sense if you don't.

Easy way to increase your numbers.

I have yet to meet a Mormon that talks about other peoples religions the way that the Born Agains do.

That says more to me then anything else.

 

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Atheists have far fewer kids than religious. In the end evolution will end them. They will just be bred out. Poof! A burp in history read about.

 

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starting another thread to restate your same argument like you always do


 

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will satan go to heaven when he dies if he believes in christ?

 

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BubbleDude posted:
ZigmundZag posted:
starting another thread to restate your same argument like you always do


It's gotten more replies than most of the threads either of you post. Clearly my reposts are more valuable than your originals.

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Yukishiro1 posted:
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[quote=Eithne_Boadicea]Christians get to go to the 2nd level of heaven because we believe in Jesus but don't accept the Mormon church and doctrines.


That's more generous than many other Christian sects in terms of what they say is going to happen to members of other Christian sects re: getting to heaven.

So based on what you said the Mormons seem one of the more moderate varieties of Christianity. grin


So it's better to be lukewarm?


You can have your own opinion on the right and wrong of it. But they definitely seem like more moderate Christians than, say, deep south baptists who think all Catholics are going straight to hell. grin [/quote]

They say that theirs is the only true church on the face of the earth and all the other Christian churches are apostates. The only reason we're not all going straight to hell in their eyes is because their definition of heaven and hell is different than ours. To them, pretty much everybody is saved; hardly anybody goes to outer darkness, as they call hell.

 

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According to John 3:16 heaven will be filled exclusively with Christians and Mormons.

Does that strike any of you Mormon haters as odd? All the other non-Christian religions will be left out except the Mormons.

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paulg_68 posted:
Will Mormons go to heaven if they believe in Christ?

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No.

They will be burning in hell right next to you.

HTH

 

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Atheists have far fewer kids than religious. In the end evolution will end them. They will just be bred out. Poof! A burp in history read about.


ROTFLMAO laugh The irony is delicious.

 

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Will Mormons go to heaven if they believe in Christ?

thinking


No.

They will be burning in hell right next to you.

HTH

So you reject John 3:16?

thinking

 

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So you reject John 3:16?

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In the way you interrupt it.... yes.

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paulg_68 posted:
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Will Mormons go to heaven if they believe in Christ?

thinking


No.

They will be burning in hell right next to you.

HTH

So you reject John 3:16?

thinking


http://carm.org/hinckley-says-mormons-believe-different-jesus

If the LDS don't believe in the same Jesus as Christians, does the premise of John 3:16 still apply?

 

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Eternal life does not necessarily mean heaven. Gotta read the small print.


 

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If the LDS don't believe in the same Jesus as Christians, does the premise of John 3:16 still apply?

It's the same guy. They just think different things about him.

It's like if Groucho thought you were a nice girl and I thought you were a secret sex maniac. We're both thinking of the same person, we just have different ideas about what you're like. Groucho being wrong in this case.

The only things Mormons are required to think about Jesus in order to get into heaven, they believe. They just also believe a bunch of other stuff.

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If the LDS don't believe in the same Jesus as Christians, does the premise of John 3:16 still apply?

It's the same guy. They just think different things about him.

It's like if Groucho thought you were a nice girl and I thought you were a secret sex maniac. We're both thinking of the same person, we just have different ideas about what you're like. Groucho being wrong in this case.

The only things Mormons are required to think about Jesus in order to get into heaven, they believe. They just also believe a bunch of other stuff.

coffee




So you're saying what you believe about Jesus doesn't matter?

 

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ROTFLMAO laugh The irony is delicious.

 

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So you're saying what you believe about Jesus doesn't matter?

According to the Bible you have to believe that he is the son of God and that he gave his life for you to get into heaven.

Mormons believe that.

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Catholics have a lot of weird rules. I guess they really aren't Christians.

PS. Athiests don't require procreation to keep existing. They're made, not born.

 

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