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Rosaria 
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...only yesterday.


Since most of you have at one time or another called me an ass-kissing Chinese supremacist, the question I have is should I resume posting my pro-China threads as well as making pro-China statements in random threads, or should I put up a couple more Buddhist prayer flags and beg forgiveness from the...from the...oh I dunno, the void, mountains, air, whatever?

I take accusations of racism very seriously, especially on this board, because the accusation is used sparingly and only in those situations that absolutely warrent it.

Thank you in advance for your thoughtful input.

 

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Being racist isn't so bad.

 

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Thank you GC, I have noted that you weren't one of the posters that told me to effin move to China already. I appreciate that.

 

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I think you should do whateva the hell you want to do, oh and post some side boob or upskirt shots of yourself


kthxbye

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PS and if you move to China, I'll go with but I prefer southern China, like Shenzhen area.

 

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Show us you bewbs

 

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Who are you again?

 

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I think you should do whateva the hell you want to do, oh and post some side boob or upskirt shots of yourself


kthxbye

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PS and if you move to China, I'll go with but I prefer southern China, like Shenzhen area.
I was thinking Singapore actually but if you prefer southern China its all good. hugs

 

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I vehemently disagree with you on some things, but have never seen an indication that you are a racist in any of your posts.

 

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Your title has racial undertones.

Why Mellow "Yellow"?

I am offended and need reparations in the form of what Reese says.

Preferably 8x10.

Other than this, I think people are being overly sensitive.

 

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Rosaria love

 

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Why would you guys wanna see a 40 yr old korean man's boobs?

 

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China sucks a hairy asshole, and we can thank the corporations and Libtardian economic ideals for giving them all this power while they should instead be our slaves.

 

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Why would you guys wanna see a 40 yr old korean man's boobs?


Quite the conundrum we have here.

Only pictures would definitely put this to rest.

 

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I think you should post what you feel like and let the chips fall where they may.

We all have our biases and express them, there is no need to feel obligated to provide a politically correct message of equally represented viewpoints in any or all posts just to please the masses - the point of this board for me has always been to just air out my thoughts.

For the record, it's ironic that people would focus such claims against you in particular, when there are a number of unabashed, zealous Sinophiles (as well as a number of just plain anti-white/anti-west racists) around.

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Rosaria posted:
reesescups posted:
I think you should do whateva the hell you want to do, oh and post some side boob or upskirt shots of yourself


kthxbye

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PS and if you move to China, I'll go with but I prefer southern China, like Shenzhen area.
I was thinking Singapore actually but if you prefer southern China its all good. hugs
thinking

S'pore is fine - much better food and shopping anyway!

 

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Manegarm posted:
China sucks a hairy asshole, and we can thank the corporations and Libtardian economic ideals for giving them all this power while they should instead be our slaves.
China will own your asses in another ten years and far surpass your country's penchant for making furniture that self-disintegrates within three months of manufacturing. You do make good balls though.

 

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Manegarm posted:
China sucks a hairy asshole, and we can thank the corporations and Libtardian economic ideals for giving them all this power while they should instead be our slaves.
China will own your asses in another ten years and far surpass your country's penchant for making furniture that self-disintegrates within three months of manufacturing. You do make good balls though.


China has one tottenham-sized riot ever week somewhere, it's a totalitarian modhole and it will disintegrate upon itself and it's fascist rulers or it will become a functioning democracy.. Either way it's not going to be pretty, and it's going to take time and a lot of bloodshed.

Thank you corporations and capitalism for making the largest communist fascist state in the world so powerful, was a grand f'kin stroke of genius.. I mean profits and wealth at any cost even the cost of the worlds future stability as that monster starts to reach out with it's tentacles, just shows that capitalism ultimately is a danger to democracy and a free western world.

And China is faar away, and we have enough iron and riches in our mountains to hold us by for a long while.. Merikkuh is however f'ked, thanks for playing risk you handed your balls to another player. grin

 

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Do what you will Rosaria, that shall be the whole of the law happy

China is like most of the rest of the world, but with a lot more people, a lot more land and a lot more evil government trying to micromanage things. It is a fun circus to watch.

 

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You could always add a smattering of zionist, gold and liberals threads, just to keep up with the Joneses.

At least then they couldn't pin you down to one specific area of notoriety?

 

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You had me at 'nakedly' grin

 

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Ashmaele posted:

And you are going to sit there and tell me that wouldn't be a 'good time'.


pfft

 

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Racist against China is laughable. Kissing their ass and praising the fascist nation is more your norm.
And while my experience is that most Chinese are several notches higher than average on the racist scale, Rosaria is not one of them.

 

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That fascist nation allows more personal freedoms than most western nations... Just don't openly diss the govt and you are good to go.

 

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That fascist nation allows more personal freedoms than most western nations... Just don't openly diss the govt and you are good to go.


wat?

This isn't an area I am an expert on, but I thought they killed you for making bad business decisions, and wouldn't let you play wow more than two hours at a time.

 

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China has massive personal freedoms! For example you are free to think and speak in agreement with the government.

 

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You guys should ask your mom for permission to leave her basement once in awhile. Once you get out of the basement, go get a passport and actually travel around a bit....

 

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That fascist nation allows more personal freedoms than most western nations... Just don't openly diss the govt and you are good to go.


Yeah sounds awesome, lets not forget all the nepotism, corruption and personal power that officials have over you and you're basically without a lawyer and without rights.

Lets not forget that they are a communist country but don't even take care of their most destitute.

It's a immoral, fascist modhole and the world would be better with it wiped off the map.

 

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You guys should ask your mom for permission to leave her basement once in awhile. Once you get out of the basement, go get a passport and actually travel around a bit....


under the "what i saw when I was there theory" NK is the best place to live on earth.

 

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I've never gotten a racist vibe from you and don't recall others making that accusation. Did you mean to log on as Dae_twat when you posted this?

 

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It's a immoral, fascist shithole and the world would be better with it wiped off the map.
whoa whoa whoa - hold up there dinnerjacket guy...

 

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China is actually more free market than the US. People have told me that it is super easy to open a business there and that the government actually helps to make sure you are able to open a business. This is a lot different than the US where you have tens of thousands of regulations, taxes and wait time just to start a business.

It took my friend over 2 years to open up his cab company because of the regulations and government intereference. Ironically this is in a locality that is super aggressive against drunk driving.

 

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You guys should ask your mom for permission to leave her basement once in awhile. Once you get out of the basement, go get a passport and actually travel around a bit....


under the "what i saw when I was there theory" NK is the best place to live on earth.
It's not like I took the ten minute taxi tour for christ sakes...

 

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Rosaria love

 

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Being racist isn't so bad.
Neither is being naked.

 

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I didn't read the thread but did Rosaria just get all /affected by dae_twat? If so, that's very sad. sad

 

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Everyone know nips are the most racists anyway...

 

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I didn't read the thread but did Rosaria just get all /affected by dae_twat? If so, that's very sad. sad
confused

 

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Everyone know nips are the most racists anyway...
The great and superior Japanese are not racists, we're just better than everyone else. If you don't believe me, ask Yuki.

 

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I was trying to think of who would accuse you of being racist against Chinese people and he was all that came to mind.

 

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Everyone know nips are the most racists anyway...
The great and superior Japanese are not racists, we're just better than everyone else. If you don't believe me, ask Yuki.
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Oh I know all about your racial superiority little missy!

 

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China is actually more free market than the US. People have told me that it is super easy to open a business there and that the government actually helps to make sure you are able to open a business.



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China is actually more free market than the US. People have told me that it is super easy to open a business there and that the government actually helps to make sure you are able to open a business.



laugh
Don't laugh, it's true - they will help even if you are a smelly foreigner...

 

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The US used to be more free in some ways too.

 

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[quote=Sin_of_Onin]The US used to be more free in some ways too.

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All I see are jobs and wealth creation!!!

 

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There, there. Here you go, Rosie.


 

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Racist against China is laughable. Kissing their ass and praising the fascist nation is more your norm.



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Rosie? Racist?



LMAO... So being smarter than 90% of your peers makes you racist now?



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China is actually more free market than the US. People have told me that it is super easy to open a business there and that the government actually helps to make sure you are able to open a business.


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Guys ever heard of Foxconn?

where the free workers of China go to work at times 35 hour shifts with no overtime... aaah China the glorious place for libertardian pshychosis, where the worker isn't anything but trash.

take it Jon Stewart.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-16-2012/fear-factory

They will help Rosaria and Reese set up their very own quasi-slave labour death camp, it's exactly what we want in the world!

I'm pretty well off, but I do not get the greed and inhumanity.

 

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Guys ever heard of Foxconn?
You mean the Taiwanese company with manufacturing plants in over 40 countries, yeah - I've heard of them...

 

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Guys ever heard of Foxconn?
You mean the Taiwanese company with manufacturing plants in over 40 countries, yeah - I've heard of them...


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Racist against China is laughable. Kissing their ass and praising the fascist nation is more your norm.
And while my experience is that most Chinese are several notches higher than average on the racist scale, Rosaria is not one of them.


You're a full-blown lil' Sambo on your porch in Detroit, your "experience" with Chinese is as dismissible as the rest of you. Continue licking the grease off massa's fingers.

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China sucks a hairy asshole, and we can thank the corporations and Libtardian economic ideals for giving them all this power while they should instead be our slaves.


You have no idea what you're talking about. The corporations and Libtardians rule you, so why are you surprised they act in their interests only? In China, the authoritarians are a bulwark against corporations and Libtardians, which is something you're forgetting. I mean, you frame them as the primary evil so other than an inherent, genetic lack of logic and realistic thinking common in your race I don't see why you can't simply put two and two together.

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Thank you corporations and capitalism for making the largest communist fascist state in the world so powerful, was a grand f'kin stroke of genius


China isn't much more powerful today than it was 50 years ago. Right now it has little economic, political or financial clout. The bare bones of what makes China actually strong, i.e. manufacturing and nuclear weapons, have always been growing at a steady rate. It has nothing to do with feeding your swarms of illiterate inbreds.

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Yeah sounds awesome, lets not forget all the nepotism, corruption and personal power that officials have over you and you're basically without a lawyer and without rights.


Yeah, sounds like the West - except paying the head pig farmer $10 dollars to give you an extra slab of bacon rations is not quite like endemic and institutional corruption and pure evil that leads to the mass murder of millions of civilians in Southeast Asia and the Middle East.

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Lets not forget that they are a communist country but don't even take care of their most destitute.


Are you retarded, or simply inbred like most Swedes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_distribution_of_wealth

Learn the difference between wealth and official income.

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China is like most of the rest of the world, but with a lot more people, a lot more land and a lot more evil government trying to micromanage things.


Are you mentally retarded? No offense, just asking. How is a government "evil" if it does a far better job for its citizens than any developing nation in history? They must be evil because they provide billions of non-whites with higher living standards, which is something that unsettles your self-serving corporate overlords.

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Did you mean to log on as Dae_twat when you posted this?


hugs Aw how cute, you're playing politically correct. If you'd like to advise your friends, I don't instigate. I apply equal standards to all. When an uppity jive turkey tries to slander an entire race, he will get what he deserves.

 

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Just saw an article about why Apple moved so many jobs to China. Apple decided to move from plastic to glass for its IPhone about 6 weeks before debut. When deciding on where to place the order for the glass, Apple execs went to China.

Foxcomm, with money given to it by the Chinese government, built a new factory that could make the glass, even before they got the contract.

When Apple sent word they needed x more Iphones by such and such a date, they immediately woke up 10's of thousands of workers, who live in dormitories on the factory grounds, and started up the production lines. Workers were forced to work 16 hours a day for no overtime until the order was filled.

Now, I am sure right wingers are salivating over this and would absolutely love it if the U.S. worked the same way, but, some of us think this is a bad thing.

As to the OT, I've clashed with Rosaria a bunch but never saw the least sign of any racism. She is one of the few right wingers here that doesn't demonize illegal immigrants, for example.






 

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Groucho,

I think you might be aware but Foxconn is not a Chinese company. There is an unrealistic expectation of the Chinese government being omniscient and omnipotent and capable of micromanaging every single Chinese citizen and the thousands if not tens of thousands of companies starting up every year all across the country. Filter that through hearsay and other BS and I'm sure we're not getting the whole picture - Foxconn is generally not known for poor treatment of workers, but I suppose their Chinese division might be.

The simple fact is that American mass media has deliberately whitewashed the Taiwanese origin of the company out of print, which explains why so many their consumers are omitting this crucial detail.

 

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Forgot this gem from our beloved Mammogram:


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China has one tottenham-sized riot ever week somewhere


China has had "tottenham-sized" riots every other day for the last 4,000 years. Doesn't mean it's going to collapse. In fact Europeans should have had a sustained civil war for the last 2,000 years, but they're too cowlike and passive and just accept whatever turds their elites shit openly into their slobbering slack-jaws.

 

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gae_tryst! You go girl!


WTF is going on here? This thread is confusing and lacks much funny.

 

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Thank you, nnanjina, but you missed the funny when I called Moe a full-blown lil' Sambo jive turkey. It's up a few posts.

 

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Anything that is a threat against western hegemony needs to be dealt with harshly, I'm not going to answer you until you have the common Forum know how to actually answer one person at a time, instead of this cluttered 4th grade hissy fit.. Until you can post like an adult I'm just going to treat you like a child. Now clean your f'kin face and go to bed.

 

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Anything that is a threat against western hegemony needs to be dealt with harshly

A threat? Western Hegemony wouldn't exist without China bankrolling it...

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I reserved the first 2/3rds of the post for your verbal diarrhea, you can just stop when you see the next ignoramus name posted, you know.

In the perspective of delusional white twats, yes any threat to "Western hegemony" and its ongoing financial terrorism and global genocide needs to be stopped. But to humans, anyone that supports Western hegemony needs to be annihilated for the sake of their basic interests, so you kind of have a crisis there.

And I don't think you farting out presumptuous and painfully ignorant truthiness from your syphilitic rectum is going to resolve this.

 

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Anything that is a threat against western hegemony needs to be dealt with harshly

A threat? Western Hegemony wouldn't exist without China bankrolling it...

whistling


But they have tons of steel in them thar mountains. Sweden be immune to evarthing, except for inbreeding and the swarms of angry Muslims raping their women in Stockholm and Malmo.

 

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Forgot this gem from our beloved Mammogram:


Mammo posted:
China has one tottenham-sized riot ever week somewhere


China has had "tottenham-sized" riots every other day for the last 4,000 years. Doesn't mean it's going to collapse. In fact Europeans should have had a sustained civil war for the last 2,000 years, but they're too cowlike and passive and just accept whatever turds their elites shit openly into their slobbering slack-jaws.


We'll see whose right, they did not have the internet then they do now..

Europe is fine the way it is. You're probably the most ignorant f'kin turd out there but Europe has HAD about 2000+ years of constant warfare you would have known this if you weren't a slack-jawed pedestrian plebe whose didactic prowess seems to consist of swearwords and inaccurate garbled forum posts that seems to have been hacked out with a axe.

Clean your face and go to bed little one, it's way past your bedtime.

 

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But they have tons of steel in them thar mountains. Sweden be immune to evarthing, except for inbreeding and the swarms of angry Muslims raping their women in Stockholm and Malmo.
There are a few people that show many signs of inbreeding on this board. Managram isn't one of them, you however....

 

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Anything that is a threat against western hegemony needs to be dealt with harshly

A threat? Western Hegemony wouldn't exist without China bankrolling it...

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Exactly my issue with the corporations and the people in power who has made it thus.

 

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I reserved the first 2/3rds of the post for your verbal diarrhea, you can just stop when you see the next ignoramus name posted, you know.

In the perspective of delusional white twats, yes any threat to "Western hegemony" and its ongoing financial terrorism and global genocide needs to be stopped. But to humans, anyone that supports Western hegemony needs to be annihilated for the sake of their basic interests, so you kind of have a crisis there.

And I don't think you farting out presumptuous and painfully ignorant truthiness from your syphilitic rectum is going to resolve this.


Cry more noob. laugh

 

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You're the only one crying, as usual hugs

 

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Anything that is a threat against western hegemony needs to be dealt with harshly

A threat? Western Hegemony wouldn't exist without China bankrolling it...

whistling


But they have tons of steel in them thar mountains. Sweden be immune to evarthing, except for inbreeding and the swarms of angry Muslims raping their women in Stockholm and Malmo.[/quote]

Spouting the latest Merikkuh ignorant blather like the sheep you are.. Sweden will be here long after your shitty nation goes belly up. grin

 

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You're the only one crying, as usual hugs


Oh buuhuu western genocide.. I'd happily murder billions to safeguard the western world, and so do our leaders. Because we have the bombs, nuclear f'kin weapons.. So keep on nursing your bleeding rectum and cry moar noob.

 

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Anything that is a threat against western hegemony needs to be dealt with harshly

A threat? Western Hegemony wouldn't exist without China bankrolling it...

whistling


But they have tons of steel in them thar mountains. Sweden be immune to evarthing, except for inbreeding and the swarms of angry Muslims raping their women in Stockholm and Malmo.[/quote]

And anyone with even a width of didactic know how would know that you find iron ore in mountains, which is then made into steel.

Noob.

 

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You're the only one crying, as usual hugs


Oh buuhuu western genocide.. I'd happily murder billions to safeguard the western world, and so do our leaders. Because we have the bombs, nuclear f'kin weapons.. So keep on nursing your bleeding rectum and cry moar noob.


Too bad everyone else is also happy to murder billions to safeguard against the western world, and considering China alone can wipe all of you off the face of the planet if she ever desired, it's not necessarily a good thing for you.

 

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Anything that is a threat against western hegemony needs to be dealt with harshly

A threat? Western Hegemony wouldn't exist without China bankrolling it...

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But they have tons of steel in them thar mountains. Sweden be immune to evarthing, except for inbreeding and the swarms of angry Muslims raping their women in Stockholm and Malmo.[/quote]

And anyone with even a width of didactic know how would know that you find iron ore in mountains, which is then made into steel.

Noob. [/quote]

I got them steel in them thar mountains, and I be so unmad n shiet, but i make dem 3 post about you but im not mad, cause i got them thar steel in them mountains

 

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Groucho,

I think you might be aware but Foxconn is not a Chinese company. There is an unrealistic expectation of the Chinese government being omniscient and omnipotent and capable of micromanaging every single Chinese citizen and the thousands if not tens of thousands of companies starting up every year all across the country. Filter that through hearsay and other BS and I'm sure we're not getting the whole picture - Foxconn is generally not known for poor treatment of workers, but I suppose their Chinese division might be.

The simple fact is that American mass media has deliberately whitewashed the Taiwanese origin of the company out of print, which explains why so many their consumers are omitting this crucial detail.



It really doesn't matter who owns the company. What matters is that the Chinese government is willing to subsidize new factories on even the chance of it attracting new business and the fact that workers in China have little or no protection from predatory companies. I'm sure there are other countries that are just as bad as China about that kind of thing and I'm sure the right in this country would absolutely love it if it could force all workers to live in company dormitories and be at the company's beck and call 24/7.


In related news, China is spending three quarters of a trillion dollars over the next decade to ensure that they control the vast majority of green technology factories. That's one of the reasons Solyndra went bankrupt. Now, Solyndra might have had other problems. Everything written about it is from a partisan viewpoint, so it's hard to tell for sure, but, the fact is, if the U.S. government doesn't support the ability of U.S. companies in the alternative energy field, we will lose THE big economic fight of the 21st Century.

In other words, I think China is doing some things we should also be doing and some things we should take as cautionary examples.









 

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China is actually more free market than the US. People have told me that it is super easy to open a business there and that the government actually helps to make sure you are able to open a business.



laugh
Don't laugh, it's true - they will help even if you are a smelly foreigner...


Ashmaele got it, further down the thread.

Plus, im just laughing that DesPaulhumpervu thinks that China is more free market by that example, and forgets that the US has been helping private citizens open businesses for decades. Also, China has regulations too, many of which are similar or the same as in the US.

Plus, forcefully manipulating your own population into production leverage isn't very free market.

 

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China's record on worker's rights is here and there, but "officially" there are laws regarding pay and maximum hours of employment. A lot of the problem is uneven enforcement which is typical of developing countries, but they have been improving steadily - as would be expected. Right wingers may salivate at the thought of paying people a few cents an hour for 16 hours a day six days a week, but they neglect to mention that China has massive subsidies for housing, healthcare, education, transport etc for the poorest people and minorities, which is why they have (or had) one the lowest wealth disparities in the world even as a poor and rapidly growing nation.

 

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Its funny to watch Chinese apologists try to defend abhorrent worker abuse, deadly pollution, and oppression in Tibet with a 'but but but.. asian school girls!'

 

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It's funny to watch some people run their mouths as if they know anything about anything aside from basketball and spreading AIDS, but there's a time for comedy and a time for discussion, my good friend.

 

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It really doesn't matter who owns the company. What matters is that the Chinese government is willing to subsidize new factories on even the chance of it attracting new business and the fact that workers in China have little or no protection from predatory companies.
Nobody - and I mean nobody - in the Chinese Government was forcing a single person to work for Foxconn...


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Its funny to watch Chinese apologists try to defend abhorrent worker abuse, deadly pollution, and oppression in Tibet with a 'but but but.. asian school girls!'
Dude - asian school girls are effing hawt!!!

 

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Anyone who says "suppression in Tibet" with a straight face is either mentally retarded or a pro troll

 

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Today, that dream of better relations appears shattered after deadly clashes Jan. 23 and 24 between Tibetan protesters and armed police in Drango, and in Serthar to the north. Authorities have cut both towns off from the world as they crack down on the worst unrest in Tibetan-inhabited areas since 2008.

In another incident Jan. 26, security forces killed one Tibetan and wounded several others in Ngaba prefecture, also in Sichuan, as a crowd tried to prevent the detention of a youth who had called for Tibetan freedom

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I reserved the first 2/3rds of the post for your verbal diarrhea, you can just stop when you see the next ignoramus name posted, you know.

In the perspective of delusional white twats, yes any threat to "Western hegemony" and its ongoing financial terrorism and global genocide needs to be stopped. But to humans, anyone that supports Western hegemony needs to be annihilated for the sake of their basic interests, so you kind of have a crisis there.

And I don't think you farting out presumptuous and painfully ignorant truthiness from your syphilitic rectum is going to resolve this.






Western racist imperialism still exists in this world unfortunately and very much like the Dark Ages is a blight upon humanity that is making every other creed and color suffer for the fulfillment of the fkin 'creature comforts' of caucasians.


how evil and racist can someone be to make a whole other culture 'wrong, immoral, becuase we are LYING about you posing a threat when there really isn't one, using this as an excuse to murder your men, women and children so we can steal what little you guys have, in the way of resources to fulfill our creature comforts'


Imperialism is still alive and Euros like Manedumb can deny it and point to how many 'brown' friends they have or how many there are in their shitty backwards on human rights country. lol even tho full born citizens who are brown are frequently discriminated against, viewed as being inferior and 2nd class citizens versus white locals.


Proof ? just look at how whites reacted to Obama, that is enough evidence to show you the truth of what i am saying. there are so many white people in america who have the cheek to commit treason and say 'obama is not my president', why just because he is black and you cannot get past that ?


and it IS treason, he is a democratically elected President and should be accorded full respect as a true President of America.


Even on this board you have treasonous Americans, thats right fool I am calling you out, YOU are a terrorist, in your own damn country.


And Dae_trist has a point, there has been, and will never be any culture more poisonous to human existance than openly racist attitude most caucasians take versus any person who is of a different color.


Don't kid yourself, the West isn't a shining beacon, it is a terrorist hell bent on the destruction of those of a different color. Just admit it Nazis.


And what makes me lol ? look at how America is turning into Nazi Germany in many ways........

 

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Wow, one person died, now that's some suppression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_LA_riots

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Widespread looting, assault, arson and murder occurred, and property damages topped roughly $1 billion. In all, 53 people died during the riots and thousands more were injured.[5]


Seriously, you live in Detroit, more people are killed there every day than all of Tibet in a month.

 

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I got them steel in them thar mountains, and I be so unmad n shiet, but i make dem 3 post about you but im not mad, cause i got them thar steel in them mountains


Hey maybe pick up a book once in a while and I won't have to punk you.. cry moar. laugh

 

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Rosaria, thinking that is funny for a satelite to drop out of the sky and kill hundreds or thousands of a certain race is certainly racist.

 

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LA riots were crushed ruthlessly, its true. Here is a pic of the LA city tanks charging in to squash people. sad

 

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Are you actually stupid enough to think the tanks ran over him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8zFLIftGk&feature=related

The picture is more popular among brainwashed idiots from the West than the video, for a reason.

 

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I got them steel in them thar mountains, and I be so unmad n shiet, but i make dem 3 post about you but im not mad, cause i got them thar steel in them mountains


Hey maybe pick up a book once in a while and I won't have to punk you.. cry moar. laugh




btw Manedumb, you think the west isnt immune to corruption, nepotism and the other ills of society? just look at the country that you were born into, and how it sucks on the penis of a country that allowed George Bush Jr to exist as a politican. A villan who cheated at the polls of a supposedly free country and went about waging genocide that his father started and thumbing their nose at any conception of humanity and stealing the stuff of others..... lol

 

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I got them steel in them thar mountains, and I be so unmad n shiet, but i make dem 3 post about you but im not mad, cause i got them thar steel in them mountains


Hey maybe pick up a book once in a while and I won't have to punk you.. cry moar. laugh


It's called "I'm making fun of your stupid post".

 

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it amazes me how the thief villian and murderous cretin can just imply another (darker) race of a fake and made up threat and go about killing them, in the name of supposedly instituting a better 'society'


A society that commits genocide and thieving is hardly in a position to lecture other states on morality....

 

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Are you actually stupid enough to think the tanks ran over him?
The picture is more popular among brainwashed idiots from the West than the video, for a reason.
lol no, we know he didn't get run over. He wasn't in the square and thus get murdered like the 1,000 people there did.
The exact number of civilian deaths is not known, and the majority of estimates range from several hundred to thousands.

 

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It really doesn't matter who owns the company. What matters is that the Chinese government is willing to subsidize new factories on even the chance of it attracting new business and the fact that workers in China have little or no protection from predatory companies.
Nobody - and I mean nobody - in the Chinese Government was forcing a single person to work for Foxconn...


HTH



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That's the nice thing about modern day imperialism and mass murder, it takes on a cutesy face. They're always shocked when they realize someone hates them enough to blow himself up in their buildings.

 

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lolol once again i own this board, and its low IQ and pwn it with the truth, and no one responds........





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Are you actually stupid enough to think the tanks ran over him?
The picture is more popular among brainwashed idiots from the West than the video, for a reason.
lol no, we know he didn't get run over. He wasn't in the square and thus get murdered like the 1,000 people there did.
The exact number of civilian deaths is not known, and the majority of estimates range from several hundred to thousands.


The "majority of estimates" include high-end estimates by people who weren't there. The NSA and CIA say a few hundred, including soldiers, died. Out of over two million protesters in Beijing.

But I'm impressed you're actually not stupid enough to believe tank man got run over, or maybe you just shat your pants after I showed you the video.

 

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I'm impressed
Per usual. cool

 

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no matter what happens, we still have bigger penises

 

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LOL


i own this board of intellectual wannabes in this thread like many other threads recently and no one dares to answer any of my posts ?



LOL cower more, it must be terrible being a self serving weasel avoiding the truth.

 

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That fascist nation allows more personal freedoms than most western nations... Just don't openly diss the govt and you are good to go.


Yeah sounds awesome, lets not forget all the nepotism, corruption and personal power that officials have over you and you're basically without a lawyer and without rights.

Lets not forget that they are a communist country but don't even take care of their most destitute.

It's a immoral, fascist modhole and the world would be better with it wiped off the map.







sounds a lot like my town...
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The 1970's called. They'd like their jive turkey back.

 

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no matter what happens, we still have bigger penises


Wrong. You're actually smaller - on average. Too bad, that would have been something if it were true.

 

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I got them steel in them thar mountains, and I be so unmad n shiet, but i make dem 3 post about you but im not mad, cause i got them thar steel in them mountains


Hey maybe pick up a book once in a while and I won't have to punk you.. cry moar. laugh


It's called "I'm making fun of your stupid post".


I'm sad that your feelings got hurt when I pointed out the chasm of ignorance that resides between your ears, aaaaw.

 

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The 1970's called. They'd like their jive turkey back.


The alternative sources from the 1600s, but I was told it was a word not to be used!

 

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cry cry cry cry cry cry


Cry more noob!

 

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I'm impressed
Per usual. cool


I am indeed. Wouldn't you be surprised if you found a chimp that could talk? Very basic English, but still.

 

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no matter what happens, we still have bigger penises


Wrong. You're actually smaller - on average. Too bad, that would have been something if it were true.



http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/average-penis-size-world-map-chinese-netizen-reactions.html

 

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Dae Twat is like one of those Wal Mart greeters, except he works for the fascist party of China and doesn't get paid at all. Another example of Chinese slave labor.

 

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I'm dumb and believe in fake maps with no sources


The average size for American whites is 5.08. The average for Japanese, the smallest people in East Asia, is 5.1

These are medically accurate studies, not lying teenagers measuring from their assholes. monkey

 

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Hey, at least now you know we don't find steel in mountains.. You should thank me for making you just a smidge less ignorant. happy

 

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Dae Twat is like one of those Wal Mart greeters, except he works for the fascist party of China and doesn't get paid at all. Another example of Chinese slave labor.


I guess I also work for the fascist party of Japan, and for Muslims because I don't take your line on either party as well confused

Working for free though, is infinitely more respectable than working the welfare line like LaFawnda

 

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Dae Twat is like one of those Wal Mart greeters, except he works for the fascist party of China and doesn't get paid at all. Another example of Chinese slave labor.








except that that would be our slave labor over there

 

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/meltdown cry cry cry


I'm just quoting what you said with some flavor!

 

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I have a huge penis.

 

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I will remember this glorious day, when I owned this board so hard that the fools and racists who usually heap hate on others shut up and couldn't respond to what i said... lol




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[ but Europe has HAD about 2000+ years of constant warfare



Right - wars serving the monarchs and religious orders, not the common man. That's the difference between smelly Euros and people elsewhere. Chinese people protested for better treatment, Euro dogs killed each other because they believed in different brands of superstitious mumbo jumbo raised_brow

 

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I have a huge penis.


[image=http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/169/711/Bender%20Neat.jpg?1314984445]

 

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I have a huge penis.




well give it back, its clearly not yours

 

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I'm just quoting what you said with some ignorance!


fixed.

 

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[ but Europe has HAD about 2000+ years of constant warfare



Right - wars serving the monarchs and religious orders, not the common man. That's the difference between smelly Euros and people elsewhere. Chinese people protested for better treatment, Euro dogs killed each other because they believed in different brands of superstitious mumbo jumbo raised_brow


Oh, you found a history book took you long enough.

You never specified which sort of conflict you were after, please learn to use the English language better.

 

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You never specified which sort of conflict you were after


Obvious from the context. I think the "civil war" part should have been a hint, but then again you must have thought Europe was one unified polity for 2,000 years shock

GET SUM EDUCASHUN!

 

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The average size for American whites is 5.08. The average for Japanese, the smallest people in East Asia, is 5.1

These are medically accurate studies, not lying teenagers measuring from their assholes. monkey



it's so cute you think that. Maybe one day you will pee next to me and I'll prove you wong.

 

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maybe one day I'll see you next to me with your dick out and I'll get a boner and feel big

 

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I cannot believe that anyone would suggest that China would be anything but AWESOME to their workers. I mean, c'mon...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6733564947664645042

....oops.

 

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internet posted:
A study published in the September 1996 Journal of Urology concluded that average erect length was 12.9 cm (5.01 in) (measured by staff).


Nm, it was 5.01 inches. Even smaller.


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The penis size map is fraudulent. The accurate average for the Japanese is 13.28cm according to the Japanese Journal of Sexology

 

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maybe one day I'll see you next to me with your dick out and I'll get a boner and feel big




haha so affected (and small)

 

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I cannot believe that anyone would suggest that China would be anything but AWESOME to their workers. I mean, c'mon...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6733564947664645042

....oops.


People involved in that kind of manufacturing are less than 3% of the total workforce.

 

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maybe one day I'll see you next to me with your dick out and I'll get a boner and feel big




haha so affected (and small)




You're the one who has made upward of 20 posts about other men's penises, no one is affected but you. Micropenis is far more common in whites than East Asians fyi, and 5.01 average is not big.

 

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[quote=Tipztoe]maybe one day I'll see you next to me with your dick out and I'll get a boner and feel big




haha so affected (and small)




You're the one who has made upward of 20 posts about other men's penises, no one is affected but you. Micropenis is far more common in whites than East Asians fyi, and 5.01 average is not big.[/quote]


20 posts? Exaggerated like your penis size lol!

 

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I cannot believe that anyone would suggest that China would be anything but AWESOME to their workers. I mean, c'mon...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6733564947664645042

....oops.






isnt this common knowledge?
and you dont believe the mega corps push their politicians for slave class legislation

have you been sleeping for the last 50 years?

 

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lets talk about your penis



I mean if you really want it so bad I can send you a picture with your name written on it next to like a coke can or something, but lets stop pretending that white men haven't been proven to have the smallest dicks in the world on average.

Since you are a bit of a cock enthusiast I can tell you that there is a higher standard deviation among whites though, so there are a lot of tiny ones and (usually among gay and bisexual men) large ones.

 

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You never specified which sort of conflict you were after


Obvious from the context. I think the "civil war" part should have been a hint, but then again you must have thought Europe was one unified polity for 2,000 years shock

GET SUM EDUCASHUN!


The conflicts within Europe could have been seen as a long civil war, we do share a cultural history.. You never specified which sort of conflict, you just said war.. If you're going to play this game you should really better your English and stop being such a noob.

So I win this one.

I'm however glad that I got you to finally read up on history, you should thank me for lessening your ignorance just a bit more. laugh

 

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The conflicts within Europe could have been seen as a long civil war


Yes, if you're inbred and illiterate.

 

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Hurro, wercome! Prease buy garden gnomes made in sweat shops 18 hours a day to make you BIG HAPPY TIME! I ruv China and Worrhd of Warcraft.


 

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MM-hmm, massa' gib dem good frie chikin', so i gots to defends massa on dey intanets, fo sho', but i gots ta take dem break so i can snort dem crack and git da welfare check. dat chedda, dem hos love it

 

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The conflicts within Europe could have been seen as a long civil war


Yes, if you're inbred and illiterate.


I can clearly read what you're writing and I'm writing this, so I can't really be illiterate.. I'm however bilingual if that's what you mean.

I'm sorry that life handed you such a rotten deal by making you so incompetent, but lucky for you I'm here to correct your mistakes and educate you.

 

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I can clearly read what you're writing and I'm writing this, so I can't really be illiterate.. ARGLEBARGLEBARGLE BORK BORK BORK





How do I know your talking chicken isn't just playing interpreter?

 

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I'm small and affected



you can post any link you want dude... we all have chinese friends.

laugh



 

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I have Chinese friends and I have seen all of their cocks up close





Can you be any more of a creepy dick ogler?

 

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I have Chinese friends and I have seen all of their cocks up close





I doth protest too loudly




I think people can read between the lines


WUL? tongue

 

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Rosaria, The thought of you being a racist has never entered my mind.

Don't pay any attention to the knuckle-draggers.

 

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WUL? tongue


No I just recall you posting something similar across several threads shock

So who is this Chinese friend you have a crush on?

 

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laugh Wow how did I miss this gem of a thread!! Pure entertainment gold!!

You say anything about China or Chinese and it's like the bat signal to Dea_twat and his crazy obsession to defend the motherland and his other crazy obsession to tell everyone he doesn't have a little dick.


Rosaria, I've never found you with even the hint of racism. On the contrary I find your posts enjoyable to read and makes me laugh when you go off on someone.

 

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Again, it's whites like you that are obsessed with dicks. I also defend the Japanese, Iranians, Arabs, Justin Bieber and Eastern Europeans sometimes. I guess that means I also work for the Iranian government and I'm Justin Bieber's mom silly

You have to be utterly retarded to resort to ad hominems like that. I am perfectly capable of discussion, it's just limpdicked idiots like yourself who get angry when your prejudices are challenged.

 

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'allo Tych! I feel like I've wandered through the wrong door at a sauna and see men whipping off their towels and slapping each other in the face with their dicks. Oh my.

 

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'allo Tych! I feel like I've wandered through the wrong door at a sauna and see men whipping off their towels and slapping each other in the face with their dicks. Oh my.


Thx for the heads up, avoid sauna..right, thx!

 

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You mean to say you walked into Moe and Tipz's wet dream.

 

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And who would blame people for wet dreaming about us both, thats on average +21% more to their.. dream, than subconscious speculations about Chinese shortcomings.

 

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You're trying too hard to be faux subtle that you're incomprehensible. I assure you, no one has a wet dream about contracting AIDS from a small-dicked baboon like yourself.

 

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Trying too hard? That might be many things. One thing it definitely is, is being so emotionally invested in a thread you drop 40 replies of angsty emo goodness. hugs

 

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My uncle used to work for the Philadelphia zoo when he was just out of high school back in the 60s and he used to tell a story about how there was a sort of motorized cart, like a golf cart that carried a bunch of garbage cans full of feces cleaned up from the primate house and other animal holding facilities...

Anyway, my uncle said one day that the "siht truck" as it was called overturned right in front of the huge intake fans that ventilated the reptile house and according to my uncle, as the lids came off the 3 full garbage cans, the feces literally hit the fans and splattered all through the ductwork and into the reptile house.

Now, my uncle's sense of humor is low brow even for my family (and we can be pretty low brow), and in truth, I think he made this whole story up just for the sake of a joke, but nevertheless... this thread now looks like what I imagine the reptile house at the zoo must have looked like that day... monkey

 

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You mean to say you walked into Moe and Tipz's wet dream.



sounds like a slice of heaven imo.





 

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I have been accused of being nakedly racist against the Chinese on this board, in fact......only yesterday.





I'd love to be more Chinese if it gets Rosaria 1, against me and 2, naked.

 

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Trying too hard? That might be many things. One thing it definitely is, is being so emotionally invested in a thread you drop 40 replies of angsty emo goodness. hugs


It's one response for one or two posts, so I'm being pretty efficient.

 

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Asian people in Asian porn always have small penises. I don't know why. Maybe it makes people feel better about themselves.

 

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There isn't much porn coming from the better endowed "Asian" regions (mainly Northern China and parts of Korea). Japanese and Southeast Asians are smaller, but they're still bigger than the average white.

The more you know!

 

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But clearly not in porn. That was my point. You obviously know a lot about penis size of various races but for most of us male Outposters porn is the only real place we see it.

 

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If you want to say "Japanese porn" then go ahead and say it, the only porn coming out of Southeast Asia involves trannies. There isn't much of a porn industry in China, but yes even the gay men you're insulting now don't say Chinese people are small, quite the contrary actually.

It's just easy to believe a group of people has some kind of hidden deficiency when they're obviously and undeniably smarter.

 

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...only yesterday.


Since most of you have at one time or another called me an ass-kissing Chinese supremacist, the question I have is should I resume posting my pro-China threads as well as making pro-China statements in random threads, or should I put up a couple more Buddhist prayer flags and beg forgiveness from the...from the...oh I dunno, the void, mountains, air, whatever?

I take accusations of racism very seriously, especially on this board, because the accusation is used sparingly and only in those situations that absolutely warrent it.

Thank you in advance for your thoughtful input.



Rosaria you are the opposite of that.

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Please post naked pics Rosaria!

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Rosaria posted a thread about being nekkid?

TIUWP! angry

 

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I bet she looks hot naked!

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I don't think Rosaria is a racist at all. She is proud of her cultural heritage, but so are many people here and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

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There isn't much of a porn industry in China,
You've obviously never been on the internet...

 

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People on the Outpost are a bit crazy. She is far from a racist. She is an apologist for China and a cheerleader for it. I bet she looks hot nude too!

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There isn't much of a porn industry in China,
You've obviously never been on the internet...


It's probably a $1 billion market, tops. They get a lot of it from Japan from what I hear, lol. Esp. because the Chinese government bans a lot of it.

 

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People on the Outpost are a bit crazy. She is far from a racist. She is an apologist for China and a cheerleader for it. I bet she looks hot nude too!

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She's an apologist for the truth and realistic thinking when it comes to China. All of you are just buttmad that your bias and anti-Chinese hate isn't taken for granted as the truth grin

 

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There isn't much porn coming from the better endowed "Asian" regions (mainly Northern China and parts of Korea). Japanese and Southeast Asians are smaller, but they're still bigger than the average white.

The more you know!


So you're an expert in penis size, knowledge gained from years of exhaustive research no doubt. I bet you have really strong jaw muscles and have completely conquered your gag reflex.

 

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Are you asking me out?

 

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Thought this might be an apropos place to mention this link...


http://www.fareedzakaria.com/home/Articles/Entries/2012/1/26_The_Case_for_Making_It_in_the_USA.html


Take solar energy, an industry largely invented in the U.S. but in which the manufacturing has mostly moved to China. The CEO of Evergreen Solar, Michael El-Hillow, decided that he had to move one of his plants to China to reduce costs. “In December 2008, we were approached by a Chinese company, Jiawei, which was impressed with our wafer technology,” he recounts. “The Chinese government agreed to support a loan that would cover two-thirds of our expansion in China.” The subsidies offered by the Massachusetts government, by contrast, covered about 5% of the cost of the company’s U.S. plant. Last year Evergreen filed for bankruptcy, having unquestionably been undone by cheap Chinese competition. But Evergreen’s Chinese factory will continue to operate, with Jiawei inheriting all its technology and know-how.

Or consider wind turbines. China’s biggest windmill makers, Sinovel Wind Group Co. and Xinjiang Goldwind Science & Technology Co., have received more than $15.5 billion in credits from state-owned banks. As a result, despite many concerns about quality, they won their first major foreign orders in the past year. They plan to establish plants abroad, including China’s first in the U.S. Over time, they will gain experience, improve quality and further reduce costs. In industry after industry, the same pattern emerges.



$15.5 billion just on wind turbine technology. As I recall we invested .5 billion in Solyndra. So, that is 31 Solyndra's worth of investment. Say three quarters of them go bust. The ones remaining will capture the world market for wind turbines.

Meanwhile we give tax breaks to oil companies and ethanol growers. Stupid, stupid, stupid. And, yes, a lot of the blame falls directly on Democrats.










 

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It's a relief to hear someone who isn't a frothing at the mouth imbecile accusing China of subsidies for green energy

 

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four pages.. all because that reaver noob guy with the mental capacity of a chimp with downs was not able to make sense of Ros' post about that German satellite crashing into Beijing.

on the otherhand in true outpost style we got a good 2 pages or so about penises. which is what i primarily come here for anyway

 

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It's a relief to hear someone who isn't a frothing at the mouth imbecile accusing China of subsidies for green energy


Given the situation China has to deal with...huge population, poorly educated, little infrastructure, limited natural resources, no experience with democracy, I am not a major China basher.

However, there is a long history of right wingers here on the Outpost, using China as a positive example of how to handle lower and middle class folks, compared to the U.S.

There are things that China does that I think we need to do...like invest, invest, invest in the future. But, China, overall, is not a model the U.S. should be looking to emulate.

 

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Thought this might be an apropos place to mention this link...


http://www.fareedzakaria.com/home/Articles/Entries/2012/1/26_The_Case_for_Making_It_in_the_USA.html


Take solar energy, an industry largely invented in the U.S. but in which the manufacturing has mostly moved to China. The CEO of Evergreen Solar, Michael El-Hillow, decided that he had to move one of his plants to China to reduce costs. “In December 2008, we were approached by a Chinese company, Jiawei, which was impressed with our wafer technology,” he recounts. “The Chinese government agreed to support a loan that would cover two-thirds of our expansion in China.” The subsidies offered by the Massachusetts government, by contrast, covered about 5% of the cost of the company’s U.S. plant. Last year Evergreen filed for bankruptcy, having unquestionably been undone by cheap Chinese competition. But Evergreen’s Chinese factory will continue to operate, with Jiawei inheriting all its technology and know-how.

Or consider wind turbines. China’s biggest windmill makers, Sinovel Wind Group Co. and Xinjiang Goldwind Science & Technology Co., have received more than $15.5 billion in credits from state-owned banks. As a result, despite many concerns about quality, they won their first major foreign orders in the past year. They plan to establish plants abroad, including China’s first in the U.S. Over time, they will gain experience, improve quality and further reduce costs. In industry after industry, the same pattern emerges.



$15.5 billion just on wind turbine technology. As I recall we invested .5 billion in Solyndra. So, that is 31 Solyndra's worth of investment. Say three quarters of them go bust. The ones remaining will capture the world market for wind turbines.

Meanwhile we give tax breaks to oil companies and ethanol growers. Stupid, stupid, stupid. And, yes, a lot of the blame falls directly on Democrats.


Solyndra went bust because they were selling their product for less than their production cost. I don't know what second grader they got to create a business plan but the only reason they got money from the gov't was their ties to fund raising for Obama.

Two more green technologies companies went bust this week. One of them got the full red carpet treatment from the Obama administration and had Joe Biden at their ribbon-cutting ceremony. Biden said this company would be on the 'cutting edge' and would create thousands, yes thousands, of new jobs and create new businesses who would employ thousands more people. Guess what connection that company's CEO had to the Obama administration.

 

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It's a relief to hear someone who isn't a frothing at the mouth imbecile accusing China of subsidies for green energy


Given the situation China has to deal with...huge population, poorly educated, little infrastructure, limited natural resources, no experience with democracy, I am not a major China basher.

However, there is a long history of right wingers here on the Outpost, using China as a positive example of how to handle lower and middle class folks, compared to the U.S.

There are things that China does that I think we need to do...like invest, invest, invest in the future. But, China, overall, is not a model the U.S. should be looking to emulate.


Really? Name one suggestion I've ever posted re China's handling of lower class folks and its application to the US.

Edit: I'm responding to Groucho's post about right wingers because he refers to me as one. According to him, though, Obama is a conservative.

 

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Meanwhile we give tax breaks to oil companies and ethanol growers. Stupid, stupid, stupid. And, yes, a lot of the blame falls directly on Democrats.
laugh Poor democrats. They are always being picked on. Good thing they have you to protect them!

 

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Solyndra went bust because they were selling their product for less than their production cost. I don't know what second grader they got to create a business plan but the only reason they got money from the gov't was their ties to fund raising for Obama.

Two more green technologies companies went bust this week. One of them got the full red carpet treatment from the Obama administration and had Joe Biden at their ribbon-cutting ceremony. Biden said this company would be on the 'cutting edge' and would create thousands, yes thousands, of new jobs and create new businesses who would employ thousands more people. Guess what connection that company's CEO had to the Obama administration.


A lot of dotcoms went bust in the 90s too, but you can't deny that overall green tech is doing well.

 

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It's a relief to hear someone who isn't a frothing at the mouth imbecile accusing China of subsidies for green energy


Given the situation China has to deal with...huge population, poorly educated, little infrastructure, limited natural resources, no experience with democracy, I am not a major China basher.

However, there is a long history of right wingers here on the Outpost, using China as a positive example of how to handle lower and middle class folks, compared to the U.S.

There are things that China does that I think we need to do...like invest, invest, invest in the future. But, China, overall, is not a model the U.S. should be looking to emulate.


Really? Name one suggestion I've ever posted re China's handling of lower class folks and its application to the US.

Edit: I'm responding to Groucho's post about right wingers because he refers to me as one. According to him, though, Obama is a conservative.



I recall you contrasted the Obama response to the housing disaster unfavorably to China's building lots of dormitories for people. There's other stuff but it was a while ago and I don't really keep track. But, generally, during the time of the stimulus and after, you consistently compared what China was doing to what the U.S. was doing and preferred what China was doing. Even though what China was doing...trying to bootstrap hundreds of millions of rural workers up from abject poverty to plain old poverty was completely different from what the U.S. was trying to do...keep 10's of millions from falling from a comfortable life down to poverty.

And, yes, Obama has governed as a moderate conservative. Obamacare is a conservative program. Cap and trade is a conservative program. The Patriot Act was a conservative idea. Extending the war in Afghanistan is a conservative response. He campaigned against gay marriage. He refuses to even discuss the legalization of pot. Most of his economic team are Wall Streeters who would be perfectly at home in a Republican Administration. He's been decent on environmental issues but clearly sees them as political chips in a political game. He embraced the right wing idea that deficits are the most important problem we face, at a time of massive unemployment and economic stagnation. And before even negotiating with Republicans, he put massive eviscerations of SS and Medicare on the table.

I would rank you moderately to the right of him, with most right wing Outposters a light year or two to the right of you.








 

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Solyndra went bust because they were selling their product for less than their production cost. I don't know what second grader they got to create a business plan but the only reason they got money from the gov't was their ties to fund raising for Obama.

Solyndra went bust because the cost of silicon tanked (from over $300/kg to under $30/kg). They had invented a novel way of making solar panels without silicon. The huge shift in silicon costs made their panels no longer cost competitive. They probably held out for a while selling under cost hoping silicon would go back up, but that didn't happen in time for them. grin

 

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To be fair I don't think you can describe the vast majority of rural Chinese as being in abject poverty. Their GDP may be low, but the government underreports rural GDP by 30-50% on top of nominal/PPP pricing problems. As far as what they've saved up (value of their assets), they're far richer than rural counterparts in almost all of Eastern Europe, Brazil, India, etc.

China doesn't get the credit it deserves for mitigating wealth inequality, but to praise them would be to criticize the neoliberal free-market fundamentalism that has the world in its thrall.

 

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Solyndra went bust because they were selling their product for less than their production cost. I don't know what second grader they got to create a business plan but the only reason they got money from the gov't was their ties to fund raising for Obama.

Solyndra went bust because the cost of silicon tanked (from over $300/kg to under $30/kg). They had invented a novel way of making solar panels without silicon. The huge shift in silicon costs made their panels no longer cost competitive. They probably held out for a while selling under cost hoping silicon would go back up, but that didn't happen in time for them. grin


An invention like that is incredibly valuable though. Conservatives hate science and can't understand that. They also refuse to acknowledge that a lot of the money "lost" was simply recycled back into the local economy through wages and purchases sourced from the US. But why bother trying to explain that to people who think giving away free money to crony dictators in the Middle East is "good for them con-my".

 

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Really?


Who blew up the silicon market?

 

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Who blew up the silicon market?

China grin

 

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EILPERIN: Silicon is incredibly important. It's basically the raw material that's processed to make these silicon wafers, and they create boles, kind of almost ingots, and then slice them and process them into the solar wafers on panels that are essential for essentially converting sunlight into electricity, which needs to be converted in terms of its supply to then transmit to homes and companies.

But what's fascinating about this is, again, initially, when you look at silicon and where - what it was used for, silicon was important for the semiconductor industry, and that's where the supply was going, and essentially the solar industry was getting the leftovers.

And then, at a point, that flipped. And as the solar industry took off, they got the silicon, but silicon was - there wasn't enough supply to really, you know, address adequately what the solar industry needed. And at that point, when silicon was so expensive and going upwards, you know, to something like $350 per kilogram, people thought: We've got to come up with an alternative source of solar energy. We've got to figure out another way that's not reliant on silicon in order to make a price.

And that's when you saw entrepreneurs like Chris Gronet - who's the engineer behind Solyndra - look for a very different model in order to kind of move away from what had been the rock, the basis of the solar industry in this country for several decades.

GROSS: So Solyndra's goal was to build a solar panel without using - without relying on expensive silicon.

EILPERIN: Exactly. His conclusion - again, with kind of the mindset of almost a venture capitalist - is: Let's think completely out of the box, and instead of relying on the same technology that's been operating since the 1950s and '60s, let's try to come up with something totally different and see if that's a way that we can kind of break out of the box and not get trapped by these high silicon prices.

GROSS: But instead what happens is that silicon becomes very cheap. How does that happen?

EILPERIN: What's really interesting you saw an explosion in manufacturing. And as we're seeing in many of these instances, it's things like the Chinese getting in. And once they were willing to put in the investment to put up a plant that would manufacture silicon, it was pretty cheap, and they could undercut these prices.

And we've see, for example, again the price of silicon - which was above 350, at some points $400 per kilogram - drop below $30 per kilogram. So, again, think of how that explodes your model if you've gone to something that was extraordinarily expensive, which then becomes widely available, very cheap and therefore allows the conventional technology that's been around for a while to dominate, while those who were thinking of kind of a very different model are left outside in the cold.

GROSS: So China is really dominating now when it comes to solar power cells. How did they get the edge over the U.S.?

EILPERIN: Well, it was a combination of things. One is that they have a coherent industrial policy that encouraged the manufacture of solar panels. So what you've seen is everything from providing relatively inexpensive land for people who are interested in solar panel manufacturing, lines of credit from the national bank, which has made it cheap for them to borrow money.

And, obviously, they do have relatively inexpensive labor and some other factors. And as a result of that, you know, you've seen an incredible reversal, where, for example, you know, in the mid-'90s, you had - the U.S. supplied roughly 40 percent of the world's solar panels. That's now down to 6 percent. And by contrast, China, at this point, is providing roughly half of the world's solar panels.



http://keranews.org/post/clean-tech-industry-facing-lean-times-after-solyndra

For the tl/dr crowd. Yes, it was China.




 

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Yep. And it's a good thing too - now that silicon is affordable, solar panels are much more so as well

 

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Yep. And it's a good thing too - now that silicon is affordable, solar panels are much more so as well



Overall, it's a good thing. It would have been better if it had been a U.S. good thing, though.



 

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That's what America gets for voting for a mentally challenged Republican monkey twice !

 

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I recall you contrasted the Obama response to the housing disaster unfavorably to China's building lots of dormitories for people. There's other stuff but it was a while ago and I don't really keep track. But, generally, during the time of the stimulus and after, you consistently compared what China was doing to what the U.S. was doing and preferred what China was doing. Even though what China was doing...trying to bootstrap hundreds of millions of rural workers up from abject poverty to plain old poverty was completely different from what the U.S. was trying to do...keep 10's of millions from falling from a comfortable life down to poverty.
China was not only building dormitories, China was building entire cities to not only boost their housing market which was falling but also to provide homes for people who lost theirs. These were not only for the poor, this was for everyone who lost their homes. They connected these cities by train to large central cities where employment was supported by the government instead of extensions of unemployment benefits and welfare programs. They got new cities, we got tent cities. They did everything they could to ensure that the skill-sets of their workers were not allowed to wither on the vine. The Chinese government began to foster partnerships with businesses and universities that allowed for these skill-sets to not only remain valuable but to also grow and change to meet the demand of new technologies. China, much like Germany, invested in private businesses to expand their work force and keep them employed rather than hand out checks. Tech corporations like Intel and Apple to name just two built new R&D facilities in partnership with universities which guaranteed jobs for the students at the end of their school career. Germany took their stimulus money and literally gave employers the money they needed to keep people employed for the very same reason China did: allowing worker skill-sets to diminish is tantamount to allowing the base of the economy to deteriorate. Which approach to do you think worked out best in the long term?

 

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Solyndra went bust because they were selling their product for less than their production cost. I don't know what second grader they got to create a business plan but the only reason they got money from the gov't was their ties to fund raising for Obama.

Solyndra went bust because the cost of silicon tanked (from over $300/kg to under $30/kg). They had invented a novel way of making solar panels without silicon. The huge shift in silicon costs made their panels no longer cost competitive. They probably held out for a while selling under cost hoping silicon would go back up, but that didn't happen in time for them. grin
And yet at the same time Germany has expanded its green technologies and has become a giant in providing new technologies for entire manufacturing corporations/plants, which said technology is being exported all over the world. Do you think Merkel looks at her list of campaign contributors before she and her government makes decisions about who is going to get awarded simulus funds? All you are doing is providing excuses which doesn't surprise me at all.

 

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I got drops in my eyes today for an eye examination so the entire board looks like a giant white sheet to me. I think I typed my last responses sideways. Not sure. I need a drink. Cheers.

 

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I recall you contrasted the Obama response to the housing disaster unfavorably to China's building lots of dormitories for people. There's other stuff but it was a while ago and I don't really keep track. But, generally, during the time of the stimulus and after, you consistently compared what China was doing to what the U.S. was doing and preferred what China was doing. Even though what China was doing...trying to bootstrap hundreds of millions of rural workers up from abject poverty to plain old poverty was completely different from what the U.S. was trying to do...keep 10's of millions from falling from a comfortable life down to poverty.
China was not only building dormitories, China was building entire cities to not only boost their housing market which was falling but also to provide homes for people who lost theirs. These were not only for the poor, this was for everyone who lost their homes. They connected these cities by train to large central cities where employment was supported by the government instead of extensions of unemployment benefits and welfare programs. They got new cities, we got tent cities. They did everything they could to ensure that the skill-sets of their workers were not allowed to wither on the vine. The Chinese government began to foster partnerships with businesses and universities that allowed for these skill-sets to not only remain valuable but to also grow and change to meet the demand of new technologies. China, much like Germany, invested in private businesses to expand their work force and keep them employed rather than hand out checks. Tech corporations like Intel and Apple to name just two built new R&D facilities in partnership with universities which guaranteed jobs for the students at the end of their school career. Germany took their stimulus money and literally gave employers the money they needed to keep people employed for the very same reason China did: allowing worker skill-sets to diminish is tantamount to allowing the base of the economy to deteriorate. Which approach to do you think worked out best in the long term?





So, I post "However, there is a long history of right wingers here on the Outpost, using China as a positive example of how to handle lower and middle class folks, compared to the U.S."

You post "Really? Name one suggestion I've ever posted re China's handling of lower class folks and its application to the US. "

I post "I recall you contrasted the Obama response to the housing disaster unfavorably to China's building lots of dormitories for people."

and you post that above stuff. Kind of proves my point. You prefer a Chinese style totalitarian response to problems. I agree that a lot of what they did made sense and should have been done in the U.S., but, the right has so demonized any concept of government policy or intervention into the magical free market, that, there is no way the U.S. could ever come up with the kind of government/business partnership we'll need to flourish in the 21st century. Or that could have done any of that stuff you mention.

Not to mention that, while authoritarian regimes seem fine and dandy when they are doing stuff you agree with, or, when their vision is a successful one, authoritarian regimes, by their very nature, are much more rigid, less open to out of the box thinking, are much more open to graft and fraud...I'll bet you there are examples of fraud in China that would make Solyndra look like penny ante stuff...treat their people not as citizens but as enemies to be controlled and whom are incapable of making decisions about their own lives.

Not to mention that, it turns out, a lot of those cities they built are ghost towns, full of shoddy construction and are raw wounds on the landscape. And let's not even get into pollution and such.

The U.S. could have done a much better job of dealing with the economic collapse. Some of the things China did and is doing are very good, for China, and many of them would be good, here, as well. But, overall, anyone who prefers the Chinese model of government to the U.S. model is looking through blinders.



 

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'allo Tych! I feel like I've wandered through the wrong door at a sauna and see men whipping off their towels and slapping each other in the face with their dicks. Oh my.




Sounds like penis envy to me..... ! I want you to think about that for a while, do it in the kitchen too and cook me some fried rice love

 

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