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can someone explain this to me a little more clearly
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A compliance ticket must be settled by paying to the city, in accordance with the restrictions provided in the compliance ticket, an administration fee in the amount of $25.00 within ten days of the date of issuance.
does the bold give them the ability to increase the fee to, say, $400?
or does it merely state the the violation must be taken care of or whatever issues dealt with?
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It means pay the $25 and move on with your life. 
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It means the ticket may have additional restrictions on payment listed within it. Probably the location and times where you can pay, what payment methods are accepted, and the like.
And tbh I'd say more than "a little".
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Tych2 posted:
It means pay the $25 and move on with your life.
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Tych2 posted:
It means pay the $25 and move on with your life.
thats how ive interpreted it.
i think they interpret it in another way though. im trying to see if theres any way this could possibly be interpretted to grant them the ability to increase the fees to 800 bucks.
the next line reads as such:
derp posted:
In the event payment of the administration fee has not been received on or before the expiration of said ten-day period, the administration fee will be increased to $100.00 for the period beginning the eleventh day and including the thirtieth day after the issuance of the compliance ticket and the offender shall have until the close of business on the thirtieth day after issuance to pay the increased fee.
i find it hard to believe that a municipality's governing body is breaking their own laws so blatantly and outrageously.
ive been through their ordinance codes several times and been there to get a current copy, from them, to make sure im reading the correct laws.
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If you don't pay your ticket on time, they're going to increase the charge. That's not exactly rocket surgery.
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derp posted:
After the thirtieth day, the city may decide whether a notice to appear will be issued or whether the past due fee will be referred for collection or whether payment of the fine and compliance where required will remain acceptable.
my bosses have offered their lawyer for other issues in the past.
im going to sit down with my big boss tomorrow and see if i cant get a few mins with their lawyer.
unless any of you can show me where or how i am misinterpreting these words which are plainly written. in which case i would pay the fines and move on.
however, i refuse to pay a dime when they are clearly trying to rob me to cover their own broke asses.
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Or...you could, you know, pay the fine and get on with your life instead of wasting everyone else's time.
I've already tried to explain it to you. Make payment within limitations listed on ticket - what does the ticket say? Probably what the due date is, where the payment is to be made and what kind of payments are accepted. If you don't make payment by the due date, ticket goes up. If you still don't pay, ticket goes to collection.
You're way beyond "a little retarded", dude.
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heh....
I thought this thread was going to be about Sweeny having an "A-HA" moment.
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Nope.
Truth in advertising, it turned out.
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ZigmundZag posted:
Or...you could, you know, pay the fine and get on with your life instead of wasting everyone else's time.
I've already tried to explain it to you. Make payment within limitations listed on ticket - what does the ticket say? Probably what the due date is, where the payment is to be made and what kind of payments are accepted. If you don't make payment by the due date, ticket goes up. If you still don't pay, ticket goes to collection.
You're way beyond "a little retarded", dude.
8 tickets totaling $4500 in fines
you can do math, right?
i count $800 in fines plus $35 per ticket for collectins fees per code 2-403
derp posted:
Sec. 2-403. - Imposition of administrative fee.
Whenever the director of finance or his or her designee refers any unpaid amount due and owing the city, including but not limited to unpaid fines or fees, those assessed through Chapter 3 of the City Code, parking violations, building department violations, code violations, animal violations, unpaid charges for sewer and water services, and the like, to a collection agency or a collection attorney, an additional administrative fee of $35.00 shall be added to the principal, interest and late fees owed to the city.
also keep in mind that the fines dont include interest but are actual violation values of $400-$800
i never paid them because i was waiting for a day in court to see the fatass ordnance cop try to explain to a judge why he was writing tickets for windblown debris in the yard after a tornado.
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I think what sweeney is trying to say is he got issued a compliance ticket for $400 and he can't see how that's allowed under the regs.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
I think what sweeney is trying to say is he got issued a compliance ticket for $400 and he can't see how that's allowed under the regs.
basically.
i think i said in the first post that i was trying to figure out how they can issue 400-800 dollar tickets based on that law.
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Did you get issued a compliance ticket for $400-800?
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couple of them, actually
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Wait...you have 8 compliance tickets...totaling $4500 in fines/fees?
Based on your original hypothetical, I assumed you were reluctant to pay the $25 because you were worried they would raise the fee on you.
I'm not really sure, but I think the $25 fee mentioned is separate from any fines you were issued in the tickets as well (though the ticket may include the $25 charge in it). $4500 is probably worth talking to a lawyer or a city official about, though. If nothing else maybe you can get it reduced.
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sweeny_comodore posted:
couple of them, actually
Are you sure they are "compliance tickets" and not some other sort of ticket?
If so, the other way to read that sentence is "a compliance ticket must be settled by paying the ticket plus a $25 administrative fee within the time limit." The ticket value itself might not need to be paid within the limit because they might offer delayed payment plans.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
couple of them, actually
Are you sure they are "compliance tickets" and not some other sort of ticket?
If so, the other way to read that sentence is "a compliance ticket must be settled by paying the ticket plus a $25 administrative fee within the time limit." The ticket value itself might not need to be paid within the limit because they might offer delayed payment plans.
thats what i was wondering.
i dont think so though.
ive been waiting a couple days for a call back forma lawyer because i dont speak legalese.
parking tickets are clearly defined with values. the only thing i see regarding ordinance violations has been posted here already.
have i mentioned that the city is going broke?
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A little? 
Hey stop that Grilled!
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Teapot.
It is "teapot."
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I think you're selling yourself short...
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