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Deny what, exactly?
The people who now deny that humans have anything to do with global warming used to completely deny that warming was taking place at all.. some still argue the later.
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Just deny. Whether it's deny humans have anything to do with it. That it's happening at all. I was hoping that the people that deny any of it actually make a post of what part they deny if any.
Also just because I can't help myself. It's latter not later.
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Sea_of_inK posted:
Deny what, exactly? The people who now deny that humans have anything to do with global warming used to completely deny that warming was taking place at all.. some still argue the later.
Link some examples.
I don't know of any credible sources that denied changes. The climate is always changing, that was never in debate. How much man has to do with it is the question.
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Someone denies that the climate changes over time?
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That seems to be the frothing left's hyperbole.
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I don't think anyone denies climate change, just what caused it.
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Tipztoe posted:
I don't think anyone denies climate change, just what caused it.
It's a multi-faceted issue.
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A lot of people are STILL denying that the weather changes, lol.
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Well in fairness to them, it can be hard for some to see the weather clearly.
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Depends which question are you asking?
Do I deny that our climate changes? no
Do I deny that mankind has an impact on climate changes? no
Do I deny that mankind's impact on the climate could result in warming? no
Do I deny that mankind is the most important impact on climate? yes
Do I deny that mankind can implement policies that will affect climate change, regardless of whether said change is man made or not? yes
Our climate changes. Our ability to predict the changes is infantile. Our ability to determine the causes of change after they have happened are flawed and dominated by the recency illusion.
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Moe_Nox posted:
That seems to be the frothing left's hyperbole.
Are you trying to win an award for being obtuse?
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CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
Humans are adding a lot of CO2 to the atmosphere that wouldn't be there otherwise.
Nature, in particular the oceans, are doing their best to absorb a lot of this 'excess' CO2.
While this has kept temperatures relatively in check, it isn't without side effects. The oceans absorbing CO2 is somewhat worrisome as it makes the oceans more acidic which is bad for many non-algae sea creatures. So even if temperatures remain stable, it is possible that we could end up killing off the coral in the ocean which causes a whole cascade of issues in the oceans' food chain. There are a lot of people whose main source of protein comes from the sea.
Of course, we may overfish the oceans to death regardless, making some of the acidification dangers moot. 
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If your hair is on fire, it's okay to jump in the lake. However, if your head is starting to feel warm, your first action probably should be something more mild. Perhaps you could take off your hat, or get into the shade. Maybe even look in a mirror to see if something was seriously wrong.
The global warming debate is currently being dominated by people who are denying the obvious fact that there is some small amount of warming going on and people who insist that we should panic and take drastic action immediately regardless of the cost.
Anyone with an actual rational position is being drowned out entirely.
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I consider myself a Skeptic not a denier so I chose cartman.
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I am a climate change hysteria denier
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Moe_Nox posted:
Well in fairness to them, it can be hard for some to see the weather clearly.
http://ecopolitology.org/2009/12/07/poll-shows-unprecedented-global-concern-about-climate-change/
And while 89% of Chinese support government investments to address climate change even if these harm the economy only roughly one-half of Americans feel the same way.
Nah, Chinese people are pretty sensible.
Oddly, the figure matches up well with the % of population with triple digit IQs. I'm sure if you asked around in Porchville, you'd get a lot of science deniers and haters.
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CHINESE!!!!!!!!!! 
Um okay
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Fact is, we are 7 billion strong sacks of flesh on this planet and we are having an impact. How much of an impact is debatable. What should be done about our impact is also debatable. However, full out denial humans impact the planet at all is illogical and idiotic.
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It will be the cure that dooms modern civilization not the disease
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We aren't in any danger from The Global Warming. The idea that we could even stop such a thing is tardatious at best.
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If I were prez, I'd give those global warming freaks a swift kick in the ass and cut off their funding. We need only be sensible and use technology to our advantage to be cleaner and more efficient with our polution output. Dumping money on global warming groups is adenine. Just be sensible.
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-Espiritu- posted:
Depends which question are you asking?
Do I deny that our climate changes? no
Do I deny that mankind has an impact on climate changes? no
Do I deny that mankind's impact on the climate could result in warming? no
Do I deny that mankind is the most important impact on climate? yes
Do I deny that mankind can implement policies that will affect climate change, regardless of whether said change is man made or not? yes
Our climate changes. Our ability to predict the changes is infantile. Our ability to determine the causes of change after they have happened are flawed and dominated by the recency illusion.
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science posted:
Accuracy is ±3°C or ±3% of the reading, whichever is greater.
http://www.novatech-usa.com/Products/Infrared-Temperature-Meters/4317
a 300 dollar scientific thermometer thats only accurate to +/-3 degrees celcius.
what is that, about 5 degrees farenheit? and youre going to worry about a 1.5 degree "warming trend"? lol
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The axis of the earth and if we get an hour less sun a day results in winter freezing weather .. Due to a giant fireball floating in space millions of miles away.
We are still quite a bit powerless to nature.
Greenhouse gasses are bad though and conservation for the sake of clean air and resource savings is worthwhile.
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We aren't in any danger from The Global Warming. The idea that we could even stop such a thing is tardatious at best.
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im not a denier, but im not a believer either
im like agnostical
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sweeny_comodore posted:
science posted:
Accuracy is ±3°C or ±3% of the reading, whichever is greater.
http://www.novatech-usa.com/Products/Infrared-Temperature-Meters/4317
a 300 dollar scientific thermometer thats only accurate to +/-3 degrees celcius.
what is that, about 5 degrees farenheit? and youre going to worry about a 1.5 degree "warming trend"? lol
when they say we are 1.5 degrees outside of norm...
ask them to prove it with less than +/-3 degrees of error
lol
and these are the same people you want to entrust with global climate control....
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Corky_Aloof posted:
If I were prez, I'd give those global warming freaks a swift kick in the ass and cut off their funding. We need only be sensible and use technology to our advantage to be cleaner and more efficient with our polution output. Dumping money on global warming groups is adenine. Just be sensible.
I don't think the government is "dumping money" on "global warming groups". And is that autocorrect or did you mean maybe guanine or cytosine 
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My gut tells me there is a lot wrong with many of the conclusions I've heard, but I am neither a denier or supporter. Just a skeptic I guess.
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You don't have to be either to want to save money by reducing waste.
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Uh, the earth is heating up because god wants it to. Pretty easy explanation, try opening a book sometime or asking Mr. Jeeves
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