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poetkiosk 
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"Is capitalism really about the ability of a handful of rich people to manipulate the lives of thousands of people and then walk off with the money?"

- Newt Gingrich

"The 1% is doing fine. I want to help the 99%."

- Mitt Romney




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poetkiosk posted:
"Is capitalism really about the ability of a handful of rich people to manipulate the lives of thousands of people and then walk off with the money?"

- Newt Gingrich


Gingrich proving once against he is not as smrt as people say he is.

Of course that's the point of capitalism.

 

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People who don't know the definition of capitalism posted:
Capitalizm is bad m'kay!

 

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How is that not exactly what capitalism is about?

You hire other people (i.e., manipulate their behavior) to do work for you then you pocket the profits (i.e. make off with the money). That's the ESSENCE of capitalism.

You can argue about whether it's good for the person being manipulated too, but you can't get around the fact that capitalism is all about rich people using non-rich people to make a profit.

 

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capitalism isnt bad

abusing and exploiting it is.

setting up an environment in which abuse and exploitation is rewarded is not how you regulate it, either

 

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Capitalism is openly about exploitation, it's the basis of the entire philosophy. Only capitalists and their peons feel the need to dress it up.

 

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You just bought a house worth a half million. Viva la capitalisma!

 

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Rosaria posted:
You just bought a house worth a half million. Viva la capitalisma!


Yep, and I will fill it with crap largely made by exploited people and resources from other places, and post about it on an iDevice made by some 12 year old in China while eating something harvested by a Guatemalen dude making 4 cents an hour. A huge chunk of the money difference between that and what I paid will go into the tax account shelters of some guy whose biggest worry is probably whether the risk of his product killing me or my family is more cost effective than the quality controls it would take to prevent it.

It is what it is.

 

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AzureTyger posted:
Crony capitalism [ ie fascism, mercantilism, hamiltonianism] is openly about exploitation


fixed for accuracy

 

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AzureTyger posted:
Rosaria posted:
You just bought a house worth a half million. Viva la capitalisma!


Yep, and I will fill it with crap largely made by exploited people and resources from other places, and post about it on an iDevice made by some 12 year old in China while eating something harvested by a Guatemalen dude making 4 cents an hour. A huge chunk of the money difference between that and what I paid will go into the tax account shelters of some guy whose biggest worry is probably whether the risk of his product killing me or my family is more cost effective than the quality controls it would take to prevent it.

It is what it is.
You know you can buy furniture, etc from companies that make it exclusively in the US right? You don't have to fill your house with crap. You can also have furniture made to your specifications right in the US. You can have fabrics made and cut for curtains, upholstery etc. You can get carpeting and rugs made in the US. Do what you want its your own money and you earned it, but you don't have to go the road of dependency on crap and junk.

 

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Dear "Capitalism is bad/evil/etc" crowd,

Can you please tell us the "alternative" system that you would replace capitalism with? Come on, you KNOW there must be a "better" system out there than free market capitalism since it's "so terrible".

Name it. I don't mean some mythical system that's never been used either. I mean a system that will provide means for people to exist.

Please, enlighten us.

 

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