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...which will include at least one guided missile cruiser and three guided missile destroyers in accompaniment.
http://navaltoday.com/about/
That is a LOT of presence in the gulf and would set a US naval historical precedent.
Panetta on 60 Minutes said: "The United States -- and the president's made this clear -- does not want Iran to develop a nuclear weapon. That's a red line for us. And it's a red line obviously for the Israelis so we share a common goal here."
Go here for Panetta's interview: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7396828n
OR, or...
It could be completely innocent and have nothing to do with the increase in US amphibious assault troops in Kuwait and Israel, and of course nothing to do with Iran's threats re oil supply to the EU.
Al Arabiya speculates that it has more to do with Iran threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz which is a critical oil shipping channel.
For their coverage go here: http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/01/08/187141.html
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Illy's been around, but this isn't really tinfoiler stuff. I doubt most Americans would believe it's about nucular weapons if we started firing rockets at Tehran. As a famous American familiar with this scenario once said, "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...you can't...you won't get fooled again".
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The brass just wanted to cruise around
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Tehran set their course when they stopped playing ball with the West with the oil contracts...
Nobody gives a damn about their nukes or lack thereof.
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ZigmundZag posted:
Illy's been around, but this isn't really tinfoiler stuff. I doubt most Americans would believe it's about nucular weapons if we started firing rockets at Tehran. As a famous American familiar with this scenario once said, "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...you can't...you won't get fooled again".
Ah yez - 'WDMs in Iraq' replaced with 'Nukes in Iran'. The US media would replay tapes of Ahmenmodwadjihad making stupid remarks about death to America and the game would be on and no one, not one of the media pointing out that Ahmenmodwadjihad is to the power structure in Iran as a teleprompter is to Obama.
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This time the Zionist neocon war mongering media & establishment complex isn't even going to bother making an attempt at a case for war. They are just going to do it while they are in power based on the premise that it is better to beg forgiveness (plus they have the media locked up) than to ask for permission.
And the extra carriers? They probably felt that they weren't going to get away with this ploy.
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Rosaria posted:
... not one of the media pointing out that Ahmenfuckwadjihad is to the power structure in Iran as a teleprompter is to Obama.
Got that spot on...
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2012 is the year of reckoning for Iran. They are squeezed by sanctions so tightly, somethings got to give, either their nuclear program or war.
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The antiwar left never existed, they only pretended to be so because they wanted their approved Zionist neocon war mongers in charge versus the other side Zionist neocon war mongers.
The D versus R establishment paradigm is a successful fraud against people who think their partisanship game participation matters for them.
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The middle east should be honored that we went through so much trouble creating such an elaborate D versus R establishment smokescreen on their behalf.
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reesescups posted:
Rosaria posted:
... not one of the media pointing out that Ahmenfuckwadjihad is to the power structure in Iran as a teleprompter is to Obama.
Got that spot on...
Why refer to him like that?
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eodoll posted:
reesescups posted:
Rosaria posted:
... not one of the media pointing out that Ahmenmodwadjihad is to the power structure in Iran as a teleprompter is to Obama.
Got that spot on...
Why refer to him like that?
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eodoll posted:
reesescups posted:
Rosaria posted:
... not one of the media pointing out that Ahmenmodwadjihad is to the power structure in Iran as a teleprompter is to Obama.
Got that spot on...
Why refer to him like that?
Refer to who like what?
Ahimadinnerjacket is 12 in line of power.
He's Iran's equivalent to this person:
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Zionist neocon
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Zionist neocon
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Zionist neocon
Yeah, some of us actually put own country first and call out the bad actors by name of orientation. Shocking isn't it.
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They'll probably rotate one of those three back home when the third gets on station.
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He's Iran's equivalent to this person:
is that kevin bacon?
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Yeah, some of us actually put own country first and call out the bad actors by name of orientation. Shocking isn't it.
Sure thing, Hermann.
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The people of Iran are not our enemy. I hope we can avoid conflict.
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Hopefully we can get gas prices up to $4 a gallon by the end of the week, that would be epic!
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Tipztoe posted:
reesescups posted:
He's Iran's equivalent to this person:
is that kevin bacon?
hahha might as well be
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Sure thing, Hermann.
I'm not on the wrong side of history, you are. For it is your camp that is failing to heed Goering's lesson to us all.
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
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Hopefully we can get gas prices up to $4 a gallon by the end of the week, that would be epic!
http://www.oil-price.net/
Refresh daily.
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Rosaria posted:
Ashmaele posted:
Hopefully we can get gas prices up to $4 a gallon by the end of the week, that would be epic!
http://www.oil-price.net/
Refresh daily.
Tighter Oil Supply in 2012? By STEVE AUSTIN, 2011/08/01
With close to 7 billion people and depleting oil reserves, we are approaching the planet's carrying capacity. With the oil market set to go through a lot of stress in the coming year, 2012 will surely mark a turning point to remember.
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I was paying $4.40ish a gallon in Hawaii in December. Life is cheap on the mainland 
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Tipztoe posted:
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He's Iran's equivalent to this person:
is that kevin bacon?
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This is all posturing. Obama is serious about not letting Iran get a nuke so he is making a credible threat. He's also countering Iran's not-so-credible threat with actual action. The best part of this plan is it actually has a regional and tactical use beyond Iran which gives it a great excuse for being there.
Honestly, if you are against Iran getting a nuke, what other tactics would you employ?
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Tych2 posted:
Tipztoe posted:
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He's Iran's equivalent to this person:
is that kevin bacon?
holy crap latent gender bias....
I just caught what I did. I started the 'he's the equivalent...' line and then searched for the line of presidential succession and just pulled the first pic I found. Didn't even think about how I assumed it would be a him, even though there are a handful of she's on the way to the 12th...
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
This is all posturing. Obama is serious about not letting Iran get a nuke so he is making a credible threat. He's also countering Iran's not-so-credible threat with actual action. The best part of this plan is it actually has a regional and tactical use beyond Iran which gives it a great excuse for being there.
Honestly, if you are against Iran getting a nuke, what other tactics would you employ?
Why are we dictating whether or not Iran should or should not have nukes in the first place? Much of their current technology has Russian and Chinese fingerprints all over it. Iran's first satellite was designed, built, and launched by Chinese scientists. Iran's recent flexing in the Strait was courtesy of Russia. I think its reckless and dangerous for super powers like the EU and the US to align against China and Russia with Iran as the battleground because in all honesty I don't think anyone gives a shit about Iran or the Iranian people, and that includes its leaders.
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That's fine, my "if you are against Iran having nukes..." bit doesn't include you then. I don't think any viable presidential candidate can take that stance though.
I'm pretty confident though that if Obama did use the option that "isn't being taken off the table," it should be a quick, Special Forces Op that precisely targets Iranian nuclear capabilities. In and out, none of this occupation bull crap.
I highly doubt it would come to that though, and certainly would not spring from any additional carrier in the vicinity.
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