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Micro$oft living up to its name!
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That'll certainly keep me from buying one.
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mod xbox lol. Ps4 and wiiU plz.
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I will not buy it if this is the plan.
I buy most of 90%+ of my games new but I will not put up with not being able to share a friends game or lend someone a game.
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then im off the list of possible buyers.
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Don't have a console. Never will buy one.
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Dear Xbox:
I rent most of the games I buy first. If I can beat it in the time I've rented it I don't buy it because I don't think a game I can beat in under 8 hours is worth 60 bucks. This tends to mean I buy RPGs more then others, also games like Left for dead where I can play online with my family and friends. If a game somehow impresses me while renting it. I MIGHT go and buy one of the under 8 hour games but you can damn well be sure I don't go buy a new version for 60 bucks. MOST of your games aren't worth that expense.
If as it states I can't play used(rented) games, then I will not be buying your console. IF I do buy the console I will mod it out so that I CAN play used games. within a week of the Xbox being out I'm sure someone will have figured out how to circumvent whatever you put into the console to prevent used games from being played. I don't care about online on your system, I have a PC for online.
I have for every generation bought a console from the three major manufacturers (Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony.) Guess I will cross you off the list of major console because it's a major bungle to deny your players the right to play used games simply because your game publishers are whiny bitches.
sincerly,
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Dear xbox,
Go eff yourself.
PS3 will eat your lunch and nail your girlfriend now.
Enjoy being a cuckold. Bitch.
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This guy who wont ever buy your stupid crap.
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This will get challenged in court and Microsoft will lose.
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If the industry goes discless (which is the inevitable future), the point is moot.
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I dont believe it. They couldnt possibly be that stupid. Perhaps it is a rumor or just an idea kicked around that was leaked.
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5 years from now this will be the norm for all consoles and everyone who doesn't like it will be considered a thief.
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The traditional console industry is having a hard time embracing the new smartphone game business model as it is severely cutting into their market. Microsoft and Sony are desperate to keep their high $60 price tag on new games and are looking to eradicate the used game market out of pure greed.
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Greed is what it is too. They want to price fix things like nintendo does with their first party titles. Don't like $60 for a game? too bad it'l be that much for 2-3 years. Micro$oft and sony can't be trusted to have a market with only them controlling the prices. We would never get something like steam for consoles that offers deals. We'd get more mod like psn+ where you have to pay a premium for a few select discounts every now and then.
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Honestly if I hadn't gotten the PS3 as a bonus from my old job I wouldn't have bought one, especially not close to release. I never buy brand new titles either, $50-$70 is a ripoff for some of the stuff that comes out. I do buy a few used/on sale games once they hit $20-25 though.
I still do mostly PC gaming and screw arund on my used Dreamcast much more than the "next-gen" consoles.
I'm liking the indie games scene more and more, stuff you can pick up for 30-90 mins then put away. Not like these "serious" "AAA" titles.
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and console games on blu ray discs won't be completely download for a long time, I think the mindset has to change for players for it to happen really.
I go buy a console game I want to play right now, I don't want to wait 3 hours for it to download.
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I don't have a console these days, but it makes sense to me that until they get rid of cd, dvds, cartridges, etc. and go completely to download, until then any system that attempts to shut down the rental/resale market is screwing themselves unless all consoles do it. I did pretty much exactly what Lyndrek wrote when I did use a console, rent a game for the weekend and if I couldn't beat it I might buy the game. But I could beat almost everything I picked up over the weekend and felt happy I didn't have to spend $50 on a game that I'd never play more than three days.
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I will not buy it if this is the plan.
I buy most of 90%+ of my games new but I will not put up with not being able to share a friends game or lend someone a game.
arent you one of the ones against copyright infringement?
stealing is bad.
p.s.
im sure sony will follow suit as well as nintendo.
stealing is bad, ok?
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You're an idiot.
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Thugoneous posted:
I will not buy it if this is the plan.
I buy most of 90%+ of my games new but I will not put up with not being able to share a friends game or lend someone a game.
arent you one of the ones against copyright infringement?
stealing is bad.
p.s.
im sure sony will follow suit as well as nintendo.
stealing is bad, ok?
Do you know where your stupid is?
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The traditional console industry is having a hard time embracing the new smartphone game business model as it is severely cutting into their market. Microsoft and Sony are desperate to keep their high $60 price tag on new games and are looking to eradicate the used game market out of pure greed.
Haha I predicted that a while ago. People were like NOWAI!
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Kjarhall posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
Thugoneous posted:
I will not buy it if this is the plan.
I buy most of 90%+ of my games new but I will not put up with not being able to share a friends game or lend someone a game.
arent you one of the ones against copyright infringement?
stealing is bad.
p.s.
im sure sony will follow suit as well as nintendo.
stealing is bad, ok?
Do you know where your stupid is?
lol
its their intellectual property.
you shouldnt be allowed to use it without paying for it.
you cant use someone else's copy of windows or mac os. you cant share songs/movies. why should you be able to use someone else's video games?
i had to buy 2 different copies of win7 for both computers in my house.
why would you even be allowed to use a copy of your game on 2 different machines in the same house?
so make up your minds.
you cant support intellectual property rights being used to fleece consumers in one area, but not in another.
soon you will have to put a quarter in a machine just for walking past the tv department at walmart and accidently viewing some of their coprytighted material.
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Kjarhall posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
[quote=Thugoneous]I will not buy it if this is the plan.
I buy most of 90%+ of my games new but I will not put up with not being able to share a friends game or lend someone a game.
arent you one of the ones against copyright infringement?
stealing is bad.
p.s.
im sure sony will follow suit as well as nintendo.
stealing is bad, ok?
Do you know where your stupid is?
lol
its their intellectual property.
you shouldnt be allowed to use it without paying for it.
you cant use someone else's copy of windows or mac os. you cant share songs/movies. why should you be able to use someone else's video games?
i had to buy 2 different copies of win7 for both computers in my house.
why would you even be allowed to use a copy of your game on 2 different machines in the same house?
so make up your minds.
you cant support intellectual property rights being used to fleece consumers in one area, but not in another.
soon you will have to put a quarter in a machine just for walking past the tv department at walmart and accidently viewing some of their coprytighted material.[/quote]
as long as the previous owner is no longer using those examples you CAN use their copy. you can sell your old movies and records and cds.
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carefull or youll have to give a cut from any sale of your used stuff to sony
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I only buy games off of Steam anymore and then only when deep discounted. If the industry wants to continue to make buying their products unfeasible, that is fine. I won't buy and I don't steal. I simply become a non participant. There are plenty of distractions in life I can make use of. Stupid computer games is far down the list of things I need to survive.
I cut off Hollywood decades ago in the same manner, they only get a very tiny bit of revenue from me through streaming services and even there I mainly don't watch Hollywood movie products anyway. I watch foreign and independent productions.
The more the establishment tries to serve me crap and abuse fair use, the more I cut them off where it hurts them the most, their precious revenue.
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sweeny_comodore posted:
arent you one of the ones against copyright infringement?
stealing is bad.
Yes, stealing is bad - however - this isn't stealing, in the legal sense of the word.
The courts have ruled repeatedly now that rental systems, like game rentals, do not violate the copyright of the original copyright owner. Likewise, selling a game to someone else has also been deemed to be perfectly legal, so long as all the material you originally purchases is transferred to the new owner. (Physical discs + documentation)
So, basically, you're an idiot.
As to the topic here - while Microsoft can technically do this I don't see it lasting and I certainly do not see Sony or Nintendo following suit. They want too much to drive a wedge into Microsoft's market share and this is one thing that will really do that for them (Presuming of course this isn't just a trial-balloon and Microsoft actually does this)
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That's using a sledgehammer where a scalpel works better.
Developers have been finding ways to discourage buying used copies for years now with content-based restrictions. Like how EA restricts online play by requiring you to link your code to an EA account.
Nickel and diming people is always better than just out and out banning.
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Yup. I reject intellectual property. I also think Steam is a good system. Win-win.
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