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He was unable to do anything with the Washington Wizards both on and off the court. Just because he was the greatest player of all time doesn't neccesarily mean he will be able to get teams to win from off the court. Did he make a huge mistake buying the Bobcats? Right now they are dead last in the NBA with a 3 and 16 record. I know he gets a pass for at least this season since I guess this is really his first full season as majority owner. I am going to say no, he will not turn them into a winning franchise based on his experience with the Wizards and the dismal performance of the Bobcats so far.
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IMO, and not just because i'm a bulls fan
He should have stayed in Chicago. Doing anything really. The fans here would love him if he mopped up the floor in between plays.
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Bulls have the Bobcats 2012 pick (protected) so I hope MJ stays there until we can get a lottery pick. After that, he needs to fire himself and come back to the city everyone knows he belongs in: CHICAGO. Not lame-ass Charlotte.
Michael Jordan mentoring Derrick Rose = it's over for the league
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I don't think he will ever be back in Chicago for basektball. He's all in as team owner, it's a dream come true even if it is in Charlotte. I think their draft picks last year shows a lot. You can't build a team around Biyimbo or Walker, and they are making nutty deals with trades.
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The Bobcats have a bunch of players I've never even heard of. Kemba Walker seems way too small to play in the NBA. D.J. Augistin is not as good as he was hyped up to be.
They traded Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace last year, two very good players, and received....something back except I don't know what. That's never a good sign.
I don't think Boris Diaw and Bismack Biyombo will take this team to the promised land.
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He's a terrible owner/manager and that has always been the case. His draft picks (Kwame Brown) have mostly been terrible, he trades players away for nothing (as mentioned earlier).
At least Kemba Walker looks like he might be decent, but this team is going to be bad for a long time, just like Washington.
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I didnt even know he was still playing.
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As already said, no he won't. He is a horrible owner and I don't know why he hasn't quit yet.
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How can he quit already? He just bought the team in the middle of last season. He's going to have to give it at least 5 years right?
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What are they even trying to do with Kemba Walker? Is he playing like a combo guard role right now for them? Is the plan to make him a full time PG or keep him as a scoring guard? Cuz the dude is tiny and he cannot guard SGs in this league. He's a shoot first guard which also means he won't be a very good PG, and D.J. is still on the roster so its kinda a log jam there. He's having a terrible rookie season any way so I don't even know what the point is.
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What are they even trying to do with Kemba Walker? Is he playing like a combo guard role right now for them? Is the plan to make him a full time PG or keep him as a scoring guard? Cuz the dude is tiny and he cannot guard SGs in this league. He's a shoot first guard which also means he won't be a very good PG, and D.J. is still on the roster so its kinda a log jam there. He's having a terrible rookie season any way so I don't even know what the point is.
I think it probably will be another Iverson type, but we'll see, Ty Lawson does okay and I think he's even shorter.
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As already said, no he won't. He is a horrible owner and I don't know why he hasn't quit yet.
I'm glad ya'll are paying attention.
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No way you can put Kemba Walker in the same class as Iverson.
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Lothland posted:
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What are they even trying to do with Kemba Walker? Is he playing like a combo guard role right now for them? Is the plan to make him a full time PG or keep him as a scoring guard? Cuz the dude is tiny and he cannot guard SGs in this league. He's a shoot first guard which also means he won't be a very good PG, and D.J. is still on the roster so its kinda a log jam there. He's having a terrible rookie season any way so I don't even know what the point is.
I think it probably will be another Iverson type, but we'll see, Ty Lawson does okay and I think he's even shorter.
But Ty Lawson is really good. So far, Kemba has not been good at all.
Ty Lawson came in as a rookie and put up elite-level efficiency numbers with a PER of 17 right away.
Kemba is playing more minutes than Ty did and putting up abysmal efficiency numbers, shooting 36% from the field.
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ikkoikki posted:
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What are they even trying to do with Kemba Walker? Is he playing like a combo guard role right now for them? Is the plan to make him a full time PG or keep him as a scoring guard? Cuz the dude is tiny and he cannot guard SGs in this league. He's a shoot first guard which also means he won't be a very good PG, and D.J. is still on the roster so its kinda a log jam there. He's having a terrible rookie season any way so I don't even know what the point is.
I think it probably will be another Iverson type, but we'll see, Ty Lawson does okay and I think he's even shorter.
But Ty Lawson is really good. So far, Kemba has not been good at all.
Ty Lawson came in as a rookie and put up elite-level efficiency numbers with a PER of 17 right away.
Kemba is playing more minutes than Ty did and putting up abysmal efficiency numbers, shooting 36% from the field.
True, but Denver also has people that can score.....
Could be worse though, could be the Knicks 
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Can't be worse. The Bobcats have the worst record in the NBA...
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Kemba looks like another JJ Barea to me. Just another tiny, quick, hustle guy to spark the team off the bench. I don't see Ty Lawson or Allen Iverson when I look at his game. I see JJ Barea.
Which also means this is another bust of a pick for MJ
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Oh I never said it would be successful version of Iverson, just that it's a small starting point guard with a score first mentality.
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A thread about the NBA that got 18 serious replies, well done. I never thought it could happen here.
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IMO, and not just because i'm a bulls fan
He should have stayed in Chicago. Doing anything really. The fans here would love him if he mopped up the floor in between plays.
Chicago should have KEPT him but 6 championships must have been enough for them...when he said a+b+c=I'll stay, and they reply by not picking up the contract of a or c, they basically told him to go pissoff
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A thread about the NBA that got 18 serious replies, well done. I never thought it could happen here.
stop spamming this srs thread with OT replies.
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rabbitslayer posted:
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IMO, and not just because i'm a bulls fan
He should have stayed in Chicago. Doing anything really. The fans here would love him if he mopped up the floor in between plays.
Chicago should have KEPT him but 6 championships must have been enough for them...when he said a+b+c=I'll stay, and they reply by not picking up the contract of a or c, they basically told him to go pissoff
I think he left at the right time. I am glad to remember him going out a champ hitting the winning shot in the NBA finals. If he had hung around longer, it might have tarnished the legend.
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Rome was not built in a day. Jumping to premature conclusions does not reformat the over heating problem.
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What? I really don't think they're building Rome over there with those pieces. It looks more like a shack built out of twigs.
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If he had hung around longer, it might have tarnished the legend.
You mean like coming back in a Washington WIZARDS uniform?
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If he had hung around longer, it might have tarnished the legend.
You mean like coming back in a Washington WIZARDS uniform?
 Pretend like it never happened.
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nope because he didnt do anything with the Wizards
now on the other hand look at Larry Bird's Pacers, 12-5.
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What? I really don't think they're building Rome over there with those pieces. It looks more like a shack built out of twigs.
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nope because he didnt do anything with the Wizards
now on the other hand look at Larry Bird's Pacers, 12-5.
Pacers are a good young team...and their coach looks exactly like Colin Cowherd.
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Great players never seem to make the transition to management. Gretzky, Jordan.... successes are few and far between.
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Kevin McHale is doing a pretty good job with the Rockets.
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Just thought of the Detroit Pistons' Joe Dumars. 
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