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Subject: Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
I thought they went into outer space!

 

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Free fall speed of a bullet is not lethal fyi....

 

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Subject: Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
What if you open your mouth and catch the bullet falling? I'm guessing that might require more than dental work.

 

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Subject: Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
imaloon1 posted:
Free fall speed of a bullet is not lethal fyi....



The mortality rate among those struck by falling bullets is about 32%, compared with about 2% to 6% normally associated with gunshot wounds


In the U.S. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, about two people die and about 25 more are injured each year from celebratory gunfire on New Year's Eve, the CDC says.[3] Between the years 1985 and 1992, doctors at the King/Drew Medical Center in Los Angeles, California, treated some 118 people for random falling-bullet injuries. Thirty-eight of them died.[7] Kuwaitis celebrating in 1991 at the end of the Gulf War by firing weapons into the air caused 20 deaths from falling bullets.[7]

In the U.S. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, about two people die and about 25 more are injured each year from celebratory gunfire on New Year's Eve, the CDC says.[3] Between the years 1985 and 1992, doctors at the King/Drew Medical Center in Los Angeles, California, treated some 118 people for random falling-bullet injuries. Thirty-eight of them died.[7] Kuwaitis celebrating in 1991 at the end of the Gulf War by firing weapons into the air caused 20 deaths from falling bullets.[7]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire#Falling-bullet_injuries

 

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Subject: Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
cobane posted:
Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
Gods Butt, obviously.


But have no fear, it doesn't piss him off, he likes it.


 

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I don't care how fast this bitch was going when it fell on you from half a mile up, it would kill you dead.

It weighs over half a pound.

 

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imaloon1 posted:
Free fall speed of a bullet is not lethal fyi....


mythbusters tested this..

 

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Subject: Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
Taliesihne posted:
imaloon1 posted:
Free fall speed of a bullet is not lethal fyi....



The mortality rate among those struck by falling bullets is about 32%, compared with about 2% to 6% normally associated with gunshot wounds

Imaloon1 is absolutely correct.

The free fall speed of a bullet is completely not lethal. Might give you a bump on the noggin, but that's about all.

All of the fatalities caused by "falling" bullets aren't falling at all. They were bullets fired on a ballistic trajectory, which means that while the bullet was fired randomly it still had significant amounts of its initial energy when it struck its victim.

If you fire most bullets at a 45 degree up-angle from the horizon, it can kill someone if it hits them.

If you fire a bullet straight or nearly straight up, it's extremely unlikely to kill anyone when it comes back down.

 

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Taliesihne posted:
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Free fall speed of a bullet is not lethal fyi....



The mortality rate among those struck by falling bullets is about 32%, compared with about 2% to 6% normally associated with gunshot wounds


In the U.S. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, about two people die and about 25 more are injured each year from celebratory gunfire on New Year's Eve, the CDC says.[3] Between the years 1985 and 1992, doctors at the King/Drew Medical Center in Los Angeles, California, treated some 118 people for random falling-bullet injuries. Thirty-eight of them died.[7] Kuwaitis celebrating in 1991 at the end of the Gulf War by firing weapons into the air caused 20 deaths from falling bullets.[7]

In the U.S. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, about two people die and about 25 more are injured each year from celebratory gunfire on New Year's Eve, the CDC says.[3] Between the years 1985 and 1992, doctors at the King/Drew Medical Center in Los Angeles, California, treated some 118 people for random falling-bullet injuries. Thirty-eight of them died.[7] Kuwaitis celebrating in 1991 at the end of the Gulf War by firing weapons into the air caused 20 deaths from falling bullets.[7]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire#Falling-bullet_injuries





Those are most likely bullets not falling straight down but rather having a trajectory where not all of their initial velocity is lost.


For further insight, we turn to Hatcher's Notebook (1962) by Major General Julian S. Hatcher, a U.S. Army ordnance expert. Hatcher described military tests with, among other things, a .30 caliber bullet weighing .021 pounds. Using a special rig, the testers shot the bullet straight into the air. It came down bottom (not point) first at what was later computed to be about 300 feet per second. "With the [.021 pound] bullet, this corresponds to an energy of 30 foot pounds," Hatcher wrote. "Previously, the army had decided that on the average an energy of 60 foot pounds is required to produce a disabling wound. Thus, service bullets returning from extreme heights cannot be considered lethal by this standard."

 

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Subject: Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
Kjarhall posted:
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I know more than Kjarhall does

Damn it! angry

 

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Subject: Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
initial velocity doesn't seem to be continued in the times it came down and killed someone. The reason firing stright up versus a slight angle is so different is the bullet is still spinning. Giving it much greater aerodynamics and a much higher terminal fall velocity. At least that's how I read the mythbuster write up.

So like the different between throwing a spiral nearly straight up and straight up.

 

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Yeah, but almost everyone shoots not exactly straight up. So that's kinda a pointless fact. Most people firing into the air are doing so in such a way they might end up killing someone.

 

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yes correct.

 

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Subject: Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
Kjarhall posted:
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laugh

I particularly like this one for him

 

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Subject: Where do bullets go when guns are fired straight up into the air?
I imagine where the bullet lands is also important. Considering your head is the largest target for things failing from the sky, I bet fatalities are much more likely.

Plus, I saw it on the movie [i ]The Mexican[/i] so it must be true.

 

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there is a wwhole mythbusters on this! They dont come down nearly as fast as they go up.

 

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Rikarus posted:
there is a wwhole mythbusters on this! They dont come down nearly as fast as they go up.


If you remember they concluded bullets that fall straight down don't do so with lethal velocity but bullets fired in an arch, as most are, many times are lethal.

 

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If you would all go out in the open I will gladly fire some rounds to see how you fair!

 

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If you would all go out in the open I will gladly fire some rounds to see how you fair!
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Even being disabled enough not to be able to surf the web would be satisfactory enough for me.

 

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What if it hit an endangered tree frog? What Then??

Bullets should be under strict control.

 

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I wouldn't have to aim much to hit your whale physique mr iwasaseal.

 

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I wouldn't have to aim much to hit your whale physique mr iwasaseal.
Depends on how close were where while drinking a round together...

But considering I am what about 5' 8" pushing about 165 these days - yeah, you are more than likely to miss me and my stealthy ass...

 

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Rmors around Coronado was they had to repeal dadt cause your ass was anything but stealthy!

 

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Rmors around Coronado was they had to repeal dadt cause your ass was anything but stealthy!
laugh


Yeah well - how could I stealth into your mom's shack when the line was a mile long?

 

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She was a tough southern broad, she would have screwed you in the ass twice then stuffed you with a corn cob and called you her corny buttercup.

 

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Musta happened so often I complete forgot about it...

 

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They don't call it cornholeonado for nuttin

 

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laugh


frustrated


how you feeling after beating the crap out of that wall homey?

 

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Hehe

Smashing!

 

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