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Many historical documents including the old testament and Sumerian writings suggest they did..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRuxw-nZoJw&feature=player_embedded 
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Have you been hitting the Bong again?
(or something heavier)
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i hear dinosaurs were pretty giant
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Actually they roam the earth now.
Well, mostly they ride scooters through Walmart.
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stupid.
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Manegarm posted:
stupid.
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Maybe.
I am far more interested in this though:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_tunguska09a.htm
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stupid.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus
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http://s8int.com/phile/giants25.html
Maybe so.
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the mayan emperor entombed at machu pichu(?) is rumored to be a giant.
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Coriolus posted:
Many historical documents including the old testament and Sumerian writings suggest they did..
The answer to your question however is, of course, no.
Giant humans on the scale represented in that video can not and could never have existed. Not only "unlikely" but flat-out unpossible in the literal sense of my made-up word.
I leave it as an exercise for the ignorant yet easily swayed to figure out why. (In case that was too subtle, that's you Cori  )
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There have been MANY MANY giant skeletons found across the Earth. To say there were none is stupid.
http://unexplainedmysteriesoftheworld.com/archives/skeletons-of-giants-are-still-being-discovered-today
http://bibleufo.com/giantsmyth.htm
http://www.stangrist.com/giants.htm
http://garry-nelson.hubpages.com/hub/Human-Giants
Of course "mainstream science" and Snopes claim there is nothing to any of this. Mainstream science once thought the Earth was flat and Snopes has been shown to have bias in recording information.
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bibleufo.com
That sounds totally legit!
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Mainstream science once thought the Earth was flat
No, it didn't.
But do keep dredging up myths like that... after all, without people like you and Cori, Snopes would be out of business.
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Friarspam posted:
Mainstream science once thought the Earth was flat
Mainstream science never thought that. 
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In any case, muscle and bone strength does not scale properly to have human-like giants.
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In any case, muscle and bone strength does not scale properly to have human-like giants.
 
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Koneg posted:
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In any case, muscle and bone strength does not scale properly to have human-like giants.
right....because the evolutionary process wouldn't have taken care of any of that 
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Walker_ID posted:
Koneg posted:
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In any case, muscle and bone strength does not scale properly to have human-like giants.
right....because the evolutionary process wouldn't have taken care of any of that
As a reminder, I used the word unpossible for the same reason Scarne hinted at.
You and others like you (you know, ignorant yet easily swayed) seemed to think there's a away around this problem, but there isn't.
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Are we talking Herman Munster size or Godzilla? Giant is subjective.
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Manegarm posted:
stupid.
It also seems to attract some Outposters more then others.. I'm speaking of Walker and Friar who are both exhibiting impressive levels of stupid in this thread.
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Noah's flood did them all in!
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right....because the evolutionary process wouldn't have taken care of any of that
There could have been giant-sized primates, but they probably wouldn't have been human-like primates. And there isn't any evidence of even such primates being around in the times of the Bible or Sumerians. There is plenty of evidence of giant forms of other mammals having been around so it seems strange that there would have been a giant primate that didn't leave any evidence, especially if it had been around sometime in the past 5000 years or so.
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Did giants roam the Earth at one time?
Sure. In fact they do at this moment!
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Seriously, there is a reason elephants look the way they do. In order to support that much weight.
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"Giant" sized apes, up to ~10 to 12 feet tall would not be outside the realm of possibility - which means humanoids of similar size are also not unpossible.
That is not what's being shown in the video however. That footprint is a human - not an ape or pre-humanoid primate. Worse, it's close to 4.5, maybe 5 feet long, which is roughly 6 times the size of the average modern human foot.
It is at this point that I like to suggest everyone "Do The Math". 
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Walker_ID posted:
Koneg posted:
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In any case, muscle and bone strength does not scale properly to have human-like giants.
right....because the evolutionary process wouldn't have taken care of any of that
You are correct, and the changes would have rendered any giant humanoid into a very different body shape and morphology.
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But what if aliens had changed the gravity of the earth so that it was much weaker? That would explain the dinosaurs and other giant creatures!!!111
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But what if aliens had changed the gravity of the earth so that it was much weaker? That would explain the dinosaurs and other giant creatures!!!111
A T-Rex tipped the scales at "only" about 16,000 pounds (a little less actually).
A strongly built human with a 5 foot shoe size?
~43,200.
As I said. Unpossible.
Edit: Had to drop it down from 48,800 - I decided that an average male weight for a prehistoric humanoid, stronger and more heavily built than we are now, would be closer to 200 pounds than 225.
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stupid.
It also seems to attract some Outposters more then others.. I'm speaking of Walker and Friar who are both exhibiting impressive levels of stupid in this thread.
So the only things that exist are what you personally know, have seen or are told by your talking heads.
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The Biblical stories are probably the same as the Paul Bunyan legend.
"There is this one guy, 6'6", who's really good at killing Israelites / cutting down trees"
... three generations later...
"He was 20' tall if he was an inch, yessir, and a boot the size of yer chest, true as day. Why, my paps saw him with his own two eyes and told me the legend on his death bed. Stranger, let me tell you the tale..."
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Friarspam posted:
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stupid.
It also seems to attract some Outposters more then others.. I'm speaking of Walker and Friar who are both exhibiting impressive levels of stupid in this thread.
So the only things that exist are what you personally know, have seen or are told by your talking heads.
/got it, chief
You mean I do not dream up things that simply are not real? I happen to believe in proper peer reviewed science.. Now I know this is a bit hard for you to wrap your uneducated redneck mind around but that is what the civilized humans base their reality on; facts.. Things we can prove.
This is why I hold nothing but contempt for uneducated people, now now I'm not saying that you have to have a degree but some level of didactic prowess is called for.
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Manegarm posted:
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[quote=Manegarm]stupid.
It also seems to attract some Outposters more then others.. I'm speaking of Walker and Friar who are both exhibiting impressive levels of stupid in this thread.
So the only things that exist are what you personally know, have seen or are told by your talking heads.
/got it, chief
You mean I do not dream up things that simply are not real? I happen to believe in proper peer reviewed science.. Now I know this is a bit hard for you to wrap your uneducated redneck mind around but that is what the civilized humans base their reality on; facts.. Things we can prove.
This is why I hold nothing but contempt for uneducated people, now now I'm not saying that you have to have a degree but some level of didactic prowess is called for.
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It's my understanding that a lot of mythology concerning giants arose because people of the Mediterranean and regions of Asia used to be considerable shorter than they are now. When they encountered civilizations whose people were 6' or more, they considered them giants. That's being completely pulled out of my ass, though.
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What's a giant?
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My point is only that education is just a portion of knowledge and NOT the answer key. The problem that many "educated" folks seem to have is that they cannot think for themselves or critically apply thought outside of the "accepted theory" of (insert topic).
I have a generalized disdain for the modern education system. While I can appreciate the things it offers to people I am never surprised to see someone with a degree or five who is just about one step from a complete dumb ass.
I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of things that were ruled "impossible" by educated people over the course of human history that were later found to not only be possible, but prevalent.
Now, if you'll excuse me I have to go screw my sister or something similar so I can live down to the neanderthalic expectation of the properly "educated".
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This is horrible logic, but since I'm already pulling stuff out of my ass, I'll throw it out there.
I've worked with several paleontologists. Some were even fairly renowned in their particular field of study. I'm pretty sure that there were any evidence of a giant out there, you'd be reading about it in scientific magazines and journals rather than sites like those listed. Paleontologists aren't exactly passive about their field of study.
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I shore is sorry I cain't live up to yer fancy book-lurnun, but y'all haf to unnertant that in these here parts edukashun is a thing for the high falootin' city folk. I don't know about no pear eatin' science men, neethur. What kind of froot some yokel eats don't seem to have no matter on what sort of brane he done gots as far as I kin tell. Could you please shower me wit some of ur fancy lurnin and show me how u know there ain't none of them there big fellers bones lyin' around in the dirt?
Thankee kindly!
Don't need to there is such a word as autodidact, means self-taught.. You've often expressed views that seem more then befuddled by the scientific process, I suggest you start to educate yourself beyond loch-ness theories.
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My point is only that education is just a portion of knowledge and NOT the answer key. The problem that many "educated" folks seem to have is that they cannot think for themselves or critically apply thought outside of the "accepted theory" of (insert topic).
I have a generalized disdain for the modern education system. While I can appreciate the things it offers to people I am never surprised to see someone with a degree or five who is just about one step from a complete dumb ass.
I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of things that were ruled "impossible" by educated people over the course of human history that were later found to not only be possible, but prevalent.
Now, if you'll excuse me I have to go screw my sister or something similar so I can live down to the neanderthalic expectation of the properly "educated".
Intellect and education is not the same thing, having a shitload of knowledge is always nice.. Now applying that knowledge properly is something different or their area of expertise is just that.. Some people are just specialized, thing about having a degree is not the same as being educated which I stipulated earlier.
Yes some things have been considered impossible, does not however give anyone the right to think up something improbable without any god damn proof and just sprouting it as fact just because of shitty logical reasoning and shoddy work, that is not the way sience works.
and if there were giants and they had been found they would be right up there with t-rex etc, the scientific community does not suppress knowledge and scientists who find things does not just sit on it they reap it.
It's lovely how much offense you took at my redneck quip.
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We also know when women get on their period they turn into 50 foot tall raging bitches
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You are correct, and the changes would have rendered any giant humanoid into a very different body shape and morphology.
the only quantifiers in the post i responded to were "human-like" and "giant" both ambiguous terms....
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GrymmDAOC posted:
You are correct, and the changes would have rendered any giant humanoid into a very different body shape and morphology.
the only quantifiers in the post i responded to were "human-like" and "giant" both ambiguous terms....
Well, human-like generally entails bi-pedal.
I'm not certain if a bi-pedal animal could become as large as described. In fact, I'm highly doubtful.
It's not as bad as the theories/myths of giant invertebrates, though. Anything with an open circulatory system can not get much bigger than a lobster.
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lol, not really offended.
I meant none I was just being my old rude self..
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Walker_ID posted:
GrymmDAOC posted:
You are correct, and the changes would have rendered any giant humanoid into a very different body shape and morphology.
the only quantifiers in the post i responded to were "human-like" and "giant" both ambiguous terms....
Well, human-like generally entails bi-pedal.
I'm not certain if a bi-pedal animal could become as large as described. In fact, I'm highly doubtful.
It's not as bad as the theories/myths of giant invertebrates, though. Anything with an open circulatory system can not get much bigger than a lobster.
i dunno what is described...my issue wasn't with anything in the article or discussed anywhere outside the post(s) i responded to
if bipedal is what we are using as a determinate for "human-like" then as far as how big a bipedal animal can get...look no further than Giganotosaurus
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Walker_ID posted:
Onslaught. posted:
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[quote=GrymmDAOC]
You are correct, and the changes would have rendered any giant humanoid into a very different body shape and morphology.
the only quantifiers in the post i responded to were "human-like" and "giant" both ambiguous terms....
Well, human-like generally entails bi-pedal.
I'm not certain if a bi-pedal animal could become as large as described. In fact, I'm highly doubtful.
It's not as bad as the theories/myths of giant invertebrates, though. Anything with an open circulatory system can not get much bigger than a lobster.
i dunno what is described...my issue wasn't with anything in the article or discussed anywhere outside the post(s) i responded to
if bipedal is what we are using as a determinate for "human-like" then as far as how big a bipedal animal can get...look no further than Giganotosaurus
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There is actually a LOT of debate about bipedal dinosaurs like gigantosaurus and the t-rex. A lot of leading paleontologists who focus on them argue that the original fossil reconstruction is incorrect. Still, a big variance between those and humanoids is the large tail that could help re-center their balance and gravity.
I'm not saying giants as prescribed by this kind of mythos are impossible. That's silly and that's false science. I'm saying that, by our current knowledge there is no credible evidence that they did exist. That doesn't mean that pursuits for that kind of evidence are invalid, they're just currently considered unlikely. That's how the scientific method works.
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HE "destroyed the Amorites before you, whose height was as the height of cedar trees".
"And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness".
"And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling".
"The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. 33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight"
"For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man"
and then poor ole Goliath appears to be the last of the giants. 100s of years, different areas, different writers, and named Giant mobs.
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Because when I seek logic and historical accuracy, I look no further than the (insert whatever bible here), amirite...
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"Giant" sized apes, up to ~10 to 12 feet tall would not be outside the realm of possibility - which means humanoids of similar size are also not unpossible.
That is not what's being shown in the video however. That footprint is a human - not an ape or pre-humanoid primate. Worse, it's close to 4.5, maybe 5 feet long, which is roughly 6 times the size of the average modern human foot.
It is at this point that I like to suggest everyone "Do The Math".
Yeah, my link earlier in the thread was about the giant apes. around 10 feet tall iirc.
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Huges07.1 posted:
Maybe.
I am far more interested in this though:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_tunguska09a.htm
I know all about those Huges, they did an expedition there recently to try and detect these metal domes and they did, they used a metal detector because they had sunken beneath the surface.. still a mystery. They need to go and excavate but it is in a very remote area.
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Manegarm posted:
stupid.
Good answer..
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Koneg posted:
Coriolus posted:
Many historical documents including the old testament and Sumerian writings suggest they did..
The answer to your question however is, of course, no.
Giant humans on the scale represented in that video can not and could never have existed. Not only "unlikely" but flat-out unpossible in the literal sense of my made-up word.
I leave it as an exercise for the ignorant yet easily swayed to figure out why. (In case that was too subtle, that's you Cori )
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(didn't watch the vid)
I'm not in any way saying there were giants ,I've seen no evidence that convinces me there were but if you acknowledge Gigantopithecus. existed ,you have acknowledged the bipedal form can support that size.It is scientifically possible that Gigantopithecus. and humans could have interbred or that we carry the genes that would make that size possible.I don't think the "it is not scientifically possible" argument holds much weight at all.On the other hand the people who believe in "giants" fall short when it comes to any real evidence.
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ineenia posted:
but if you acknowledge giganticus pithecus existed,
The who, what?
Ah - should have figured that out, you meant Gigantopithecus.
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ya, that thing..lol I should have googled it but it sounded right to me. 
Edited my OP.
Watched the vid thats not a foot print.
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They exist, they're all just living north of The Wall.
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They exist, they're all just living north of The Wall.
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They exist, they're all just living north of The Wall.
How do you know about the wall? 
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I missed you, glad you could show up in my thread, like clockwork, like a doggie to cheese doodles
After getting owned so completely and thoroughly that you locked your last thread to hide it... I would think you'd give some of what I say at least a little research.
But, since it's based in math, physics and logic you dutifully avoid it like the plague.
ineenia posted:
(didn't watch the vid)
I'm not in any way saying there were giants ,I've seen no evidence that convinces me there were but if you acknowledge Gigantopithecus. existed ,you have acknowledged the bipedal form can support that size.It is scientifically possible that Gigantopithecus. and humans could have interbred or that we carry the genes that would make that size possible.I don't think the "it is not scientifically possible" argument holds much weight at all.On the other hand the people who believe in "giants" fall short when it comes to any real evidence.
So, you didn't watch the vid and have no idea what is being discussed yet firmly believe that the "not scientifically possible" argument doesn't hold up?
Wait... whut?
You should probably watch the video - that way you know at least what's being discussed before you put your foot in your mouth.
A humanoid with a 5 foot shoe size is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE. It's not scientifically possible, not mathematically possible, and not physically possible. You're talking about a humanoid 36 feet tall weighing more than 43,000 pounds - heavier than an African Bull Elephant and three times heavier than a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
He would take one step and every bone in his body would shatter like glass - and nothing that evolution could do would prevent that.
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Koneg posted:
Coriolus posted:
I missed you, glad you could show up in my thread, like clockwork, like a doggie to cheese doodles
After getting owned so completely and thoroughly that you locked your last thread to hide it... I would think you'd give some of what I say at least a little research.
Hey I am not ashamed of that, was a simple case of as you said not fully reading the research paper. Admitting to being wrong is ok with me. Shit happens but you eat this shit up like a scat lover takes to poop..
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ineenia posted:
(didn't watch the vid)
I'm not in any way saying there were giants ,I've seen no evidence that convinces me there were but if you acknowledge Gigantopithecus. existed ,you have acknowledged the bipedal form can support that size.It is scientifically possible that Gigantopithecus. and humans could have interbred or that we carry the genes that would make that size possible.I don't think the "it is not scientifically possible" argument holds much weight at all.On the other hand the people who believe in "giants" fall short when it comes to any real evidence.
So, you didn't watch the vid and have no idea what is being discussed yet firmly believe that the "not scientifically possible" argument doesn't hold up?
Wait... whut?
You should probably watch the video - that way you know at least what's being discussed before you put your foot in your mouth.
A humanoid with a 5 foot shoe size is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE. It's not scientifically possible, not mathematically possible, and not physically possible. You're talking about a humanoid 36 feet tall weighing more than 43,000 pounds - heavier than an African Bull Elephant and three times heavier than a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
He would take one step and every bone in his body would shatter like glass - and nothing that evolution could do would prevent that.
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Edited my OP.
Watched the vid thats not a foot print.
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So bones of giants aren't proof that giants existed? What about dinosaur bones? Are they not proof that dinosaurs existed? Its insanely idiotic to say that they didn't exist at one time. Unless your stating that the bones are fake. But judging by the numbers found and the fact that they are all around the world would lead anyone with common sense to question that theory. Either way to you people bones arent proof. So therefore, dinosaurs never existed either with your logic. Its idiocy at its finest. I expect nothing less from the outpost.
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So bones of giants aren't proof that giants existed?
Link to proof of bones from a 36' tall humanoid giant please.
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So bones of giants aren't proof that giants existed? What about dinosaur bones? Are they not proof that dinosaurs existed? Its insanely idiotic to say that they didn't exist at one time. Unless your stating that the bones are fake. But judging by the numbers found and the fact that they are all around the world would lead anyone with common sense to question that theory. Either way to you people bones arent proof. So therefore, dinosaurs never existed either with your logic. Its idiocy at its finest. I expect nothing less from the outpost.
Physics disagrees with you.
There are no bones of giant humanoids, btw.
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who needs physics, when you have a bible!!!
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So bones of giants aren't proof that giants existed? What about dinosaur bones? Are they not proof that dinosaurs existed? Its insanely idiotic to say that they didn't exist at one time. Unless your stating that the bones are fake. But judging by the numbers found and the fact that they are all around the world would lead anyone with common sense to question that theory. Either way to you people bones arent proof. So therefore, dinosaurs never existed either with your logic. Its idiocy at its finest. I expect nothing less from the outpost.
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Onslaught. posted:
Walker_ID posted:
GrymmDAOC posted:
You are correct, and the changes would have rendered any giant humanoid into a very different body shape and morphology.
the only quantifiers in the post i responded to were "human-like" and "giant" both ambiguous terms....
Well, human-like generally entails bi-pedal.
I'm not certain if a bi-pedal animal could become as large as described. In fact, I'm highly doubtful.
It's not as bad as the theories/myths of giant invertebrates, though. Anything with an open circulatory system can not get much bigger than a lobster.
The largest lobster found was 4 feet long and 44 lbs.
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Giant humans wouldn't be physically possible due to the square-cube law. Basically, as an animal gets bigger, it gets more strength (I think double), but its mass/volume increases by much more (I think triple or quadruple). Meaning at some point it wouldn't be strong enough to support its own weight.
They say an ant can lift like 50 times its weight, but if you scaled it up to the size of a car, those legs would break under the amount of weight it now has to support despite the increased strength. Animals in the ocean can get bigger because the water buoyancy helps to support their mass/density, hence why the blue whale is vastly larger than elephants and even most, if not all, dinosaurs.
This guy is a real life example of human gigantism. Dude died at 22, was 8' 11" and weighed 439 pounds at death. I think they said it was an infection, but I'd imagine his heart must've had a heck of a time trying to transport blood across his entire body, especially to his legs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow
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I just realized something.... Mastboro prolly read gulliver's travels and thought it was a true story...
More like gulliable's travels
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In other news, this thread delivers if I must say so myself..
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Many pro basketball players are what was considered giants in the ancient days and these modern day giants are athletes. Someone like Shaq would be a formitable Goliath
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Giant humans wouldn't be physically possible due to the square-cube law. Basically, as an animal gets bigger, it gets more strength (I think double), but its mass/volume increases by much more (I think triple or quadruple).
Cubed - so way WAY more than triple.
A 200 pound man scaled to 6 times that amount to match the shoe size seen in the video?
If you increase height and width by 6 times then you increase mass by 6^3: 216 times.
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/hands Koneg a scatsicle..
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As we appear to be exchanging gifts I searched a long time for something that would be suitable "sciency" text given your demonstrated intellect and education level.
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What if they just had really big feet?
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If there were never giants how were the mountains created then dumbass?
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Question: Did giants roam the Earth at one time?
Answer: No.
Anything else?
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Question: Did giants roam the Earth at one time?
Answer: No.
Anything else?
if there were no giants, where do/did giant scatsicles come from?
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if there were no giants, where do/did giant scatsicles come from?
Taco Bell?
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I don't mind people having an opinion whether or not there were giants,I have my opinion that they did not exist but it bothers me when people try to say it is factually impossible.A few years back we thought that nothing could grow near volcanic vents we now know are teaming with life,we didn't think there were any non-carbon life forms now we know of arsenic based life forms,they thought it was a fact that coelacanths went extinct over 65 million years ago...until people started catching them.A scientific impossibility is a very,very rare thing when it comes to life forms.
If we had never seen a bird and we were trying to prove they exist or not by their description,some people would look at the weight of mammals flesh and bones and determine that it would be impossible for an animal of that size and dimensions to fly and would declare that birds were a mathematical impossibility.
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I don't mind people having an opinion whether or not there were giants,I have my opinion that they did not exist but it bothers me when people try to say it is factually impossible.A few years back we thought that nothing could grow near volcanic vents we now know are teaming with life,we didn't think there were any non-carbon life forms now we know of arsenic based life forms,they thought it was a fact that coelacanths went extinct over 65 million years ago...until people started catching them.A scientific impossibility is a very,very rare thing when it comes to life forms.
If we had never seen a bird and we were trying to prove they exist or not by their description,some people would look at the weight of mammals flesh and bones and determine that it would be impossible for an animal of that size and dimensions to fly and would declare that birds were a mathematical impossibility.
exactly...
some things are "physically/mathematically impossible" until new evidence shatters preconceived notions....like bees being able to fly..
using certain calculations by scientists nearly 100 years ago bees mathematically shouldn't have been able to fly....once new information was available like the super elasticity of wing tendons and using a different formula for their type of flight explained the minor mystery
sometimes it turns out things that were proven impossible by math were simply using the wrong calculations and faulty premises
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I have my opinion that they did not exist but it bothers me when people try to say it is factually impossibility.
Koneg is pretty dumb, so we give him a lot of leeway.
Just learn to accept his limited philosophy and dismiss it when it's presented.
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Do I dare ask if your statement wavers about god and heaven
My 36 foot cock waivers somewhere between heaven and hell, mostly depending on your sexual persuasion. As far as God is concerned, after the first hook up, he pretty much lets me do what ever eff I want.
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ineenia posted:
I don't mind people having an opinion whether or not there were giants,I have my opinion that they did not exist but it bothers me when people try to say it is factually impossible.
Get used to being bothered all the time then?
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A scientific impossibility is a very,very rare thing when it comes to life forms.
There's more going on here than just "science" as a generality as you seem to think.
Try physics.
It is physically impossible (right about here you should be getting bothered) for a humanoid being to get as big as the video suggests. Period.
Could some other lifeform with a completely different body style get that big? Certainly, we all know that it's happened. BUT A HUMANOID CAN NOT.
Consider for a moment that to get that big of a foot you need to be about ~36 feet tall.
That's taller than the Argentinosaurus at the hips? The largest most massive creature to walk the earth so far discovered? A humanoid or primate that size?
Impossible.
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ineenia posted:
I don't mind people having an opinion whether or not there were giants,I have my opinion that they did not exist but it bothers me when people try to say it is factually impossible.
Get used to being bothered all the time then?
ineenia posted:
A scientific impossibility is a very,very rare thing when it comes to life forms.
There's more going on here than just "science" as a generality as you seem to think.
Try physics.
It is physically impossible (right about here you should be getting bothered) for a humanoid being to get as big as the video suggests. Period.
Could some other lifeform with a completely different body style get that big? Certainly, we all know that it's happened. BUT A HUMANOID CAN NOT.
Consider for a moment that to get that big of a foot you need to be about ~36 feet tall.
That's taller than the Argentinosaurus at the hips? The largest most massive creature to walk the earth so far discovered? A humanoid or primate that size?
Impossible.
you are making a great many assumptions...like assuming the body scales identically with the feet as it does in humans...it's a stupid assumption
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Do I need to bust out some info and start tossing out all the areas where giants were recorded or bones were located? Huh? Huh? HUH?!
Stuff about various giants
http://stevequayle.com/Giants/W.Europe/W.Europe1.html
Link to pics
http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
Pics of skulls
http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
North American giants (some pics, etc)
http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
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Do I need to bust out some info and start tossing out all the areas where giants were recorded or bones were located? Huh? Huh? HUH?!
Stuff about various giants
http://stevequayle.com/Giants/W.Europe/W.Europe1.html
Link to pics
http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
Pics of skulls
http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
North American giants (some pics, etc)
http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html
Those "giant skulls" are actually deformed skulls by a tribe of adean indians..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracas_culture
took me about 1½ minute to find that from just typing in deformacion paracas in google which was the name plate on, one of the skulls.
bad troll and if you're serious then you're Stupid.
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