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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDkBHPpJRg&feature=related
The guy that deciphered the message at the end of the video was found dead in a lake or something..
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Crop circles are so dumb. It's obvious people screwing with other people.
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Crop circles are so dumb. It's obvious people screwing with other people.
This one is very interesting though, especially the supposed 'reply' to Karl Sagan's message sent out 27 years earlier and it's similarities but slight differences as well as it's complexity in terms of the DNA modifications and what it means. Also the complexity of the message in the 'disk', very intriguing stuff.
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Do you think aliens came and made the crop circles?
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stupid.
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I never understood why people would think that a high tech alien civilisation capable of bridging the vast gulfs between stars would choose to communicate with us via shapes in grass.
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It's just a guy (or couple of guys) who clearly had too much time on their hands. If you look at the grass, it looks like someone knocked it over and stamped on it with a big 2x4 and ropes (the ropes held by 2 people to ensure consistency in the circular patterns).
I'd imagine if aliens were going to do crop circles, they'd have technology that could vaporize the grass into the pattern they needed, rather than just smush them down.
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Aliens travel millions of miles to observe and visit us...and choose to communicate by making pretty designs in farmland.
TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE.
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Aliens travel millions of miles to observe and visit us...and choose to communicate by making pretty designs in farmland.
TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE.
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Crop circles are so dumb. It's obvious people screwing with other people.
I'd sure like someone to explain the logistics of humans making those crop circles as accurately as they do.
Without being seen by anyone..
In the short time they get this done.
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Yeah there are shitloads of habitable planets within 27 lightyears, or about 13,5 as it were.
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If I travelled millions of miles to get here I don't think some hicks in Missouri would be the first people I'd wanna communicate with. 
Crop circles just show how boring it is to live out in the middle of nowhere.
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Aliens travel millions of miles to observe and visit us...and choose to communicate by making pretty designs in farmland.
TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE.
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stupid.
I love how people always try to rationalize things they can't explain with the most illogical and unreasonable scenario possible.
It was aliens, it was a ghost, it was the god damn loch ness monster oh and the best one of all: It was God
Why do grown ups insist on implementing magic or the most unrealistic creatures to explain something that can be explained by logic or science.
Now the idea or aliens is not that hairbrained, they exist out there somewhere anything else would be weird but really, crop circles?
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I never understood why people would think that a high tech alien civilisation capable of bridging the vast gulfs between stars would choose to communicate with us via shapes in grass.
I know, it's strange, but consider this. The same beings know that sending this information to the media who is owned and operated by large corporations and government will most likely not release the message. This manner of communication is used to open communication with the 'citizen' in a gradual way, a way to simply say hey! We got your message, we are out there, we exist.. stay tuned... imo.
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Crop circles are so dumb. It's obvious people screwing with other people.
I'd sure like someone to explain the logistics of humans making those crop circles as accurately as they do.
Without being seen by anyone..
In the short time they get this done.
I watched a documentary a few years ago where they showed how people make them. Basically you need some rope, and at least 2 pairs of boots nailed down to a 2x4. Two guys essentially walk around while holding the rope (the rope ensures the circles are nearly perfect in shape), and they just smush the grass down (hence why the grass always has that pressed over look). They can also use a computer to design more and more intricate patterns, since no one cares about regular circles anymore.
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I never understood why people would think that a high tech alien civilisation capable of bridging the vast gulfs between stars would choose to communicate with us via shapes in grass.
/tinfoil.
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Coriolus posted:
GrymmDAOC posted:
I never understood why people would think that a high tech alien civilisation capable of bridging the vast gulfs between stars would choose to communicate with us via shapes in grass.
I know, it's strange, but consider this. The same beings know that sending this information to the media who is owned and operated by large corporations and government will most likely not release the message. This manner of communication is used to open communication with the 'citizen' in a gradual way, a way to simply say hey! We got your message, we are out there, we exist.. stay tuned... imo.
Or they could just show up above New York City with a loudspeaker and say "hi."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puDF0hJpzWo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEAQ-d07HlE
 Crop circles are art. Nothing more. Well, ok it may be a bit more. It's art mixed in with a bit of trollin'.
Some of these guys get it down to a very quick, fine art.
Cornholus was referring to the Arecibo message sent by he space program and Sagan. The sent message was made available to the public. Them dudes got trolled. Lol @ crop circles. Some of them are cool, though.
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Coriolus posted:
GrymmDAOC posted:
I never understood why people would think that a high tech alien civilisation capable of bridging the vast gulfs between stars would choose to communicate with us via shapes in grass.
I know, it's strange, but consider this. The same beings know that sending this information to the media who is owned and operated by large corporations and government will most likely not release the message. This manner of communication is used to open communication with the 'citizen' in a gradual way, a way to simply say hey! We got your message, we are out there, we exist.. stay tuned... imo.
If they were so advanced, they could hijack the communication systems of our planet and give us their message.
But instead they choice to make nice patterns in grass.
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They just do not come here materially. They project a beam of energy. This is their kids hightech version of doodling when they are bored.
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Crop circles are so dumb. It's obvious people screwing with other people.
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Kamdar posted:
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Crop circles are so dumb. It's obvious people screwing with other people.
I'd sure like someone to explain the logistics of humans making those crop circles as accurately as they do.
Without being seen by anyone..
In the short time they get this done.
I watched a documentary a few years ago where they showed how people make them. Basically you need some rope, and at least 2 pairs of boots nailed down to a 2x4. Two guys essentially walk around while holding the rope, and they just smush the grass down (hence why the grass always has that pressed over look). They can also use a computer to design more and more intricate patterns, since no one caresa bout regular circles anymore.
Yes I know but that doesn't explain the DNA part:
How did they know about the nuances of the 2,5 RNA sequence that most mainstream scientists today don't quite understand
This biologist studied the message and he analyses it in length, here is a part of the analyses but the rest can be found at the following link if you are interested.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread801481/pg1
"The central part of the Chilbolton pictogram shows that a DNA double helix as found on Earth, with 10 base pairs per turn, has been replaced on one side by a novel single-stranded helix with just 6 bases per turn. I had to work hard for several days, to discover that the single-stranded helix with 6 bases per turn refers to 2', 5'-linked RNA or DNA, as opposed to the normal 3', 5' variety. This is known to hardly any molecular biologist, and I found out only by making an accurate model. Since the chemical formula of the 6-base helix remains the same as before, I guessed that any difference might be one of stereochemistry: change the sugar-phosphate connection. "
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Tych2 posted:
Crop circles are so dumb. It's obvious people screwing with other people.
I'd sure like someone to explain the logistics of humans making those crop circles as accurately as they do.
Without being seen by anyone..
In the short time they get this done.
I'll ask you the same question...
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Do you think aliens came and made the crop circles?
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Coriolus posted:
GrymmDAOC posted:
I never understood why people would think that a high tech alien civilisation capable of bridging the vast gulfs between stars would choose to communicate with us via shapes in grass.
I know, it's strange, but consider this. The same beings know that sending this information to the media who is owned and operated by large corporations and government will most likely not release the message. This manner of communication is used to open communication with the 'citizen' in a gradual way, a way to simply say hey! We got your message, we are out there, we exist.. stay tuned... imo.
If they were so advanced, they could hijack the communication systems of our planet and give us their message.
But instead they choice to make nice patterns in grass.
Keep in mind these beings are highly advanced in more than just technology and interference at that level would not be a wise choice. Gradual communication is better.
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Yes I know but that doesn't explain the DNA part:
How did they know about the nuances of the 2,5 RNA sequence that most mainstream scientists today don't quite understand
This biologist studied the message and he analyses it in length, here is a part of the analyses but the rest can be found at the following link if you are interested.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread801481/pg1
"The central part of the Chilbolton pictogram shows that a DNA double helix as found on Earth, with 10 base pairs per turn, has been replaced on one side by a novel single-stranded helix with just 6 bases per turn. I had to work hard for several days, to discover that the single-stranded helix with 6 bases per turn refers to 2', 5'-linked RNA or DNA, as opposed to the normal 3', 5' variety. This is known to hardly any molecular biologist, and I found out only by making an accurate model. Since the chemical formula of the 6-base helix remains the same as before, I guessed that any difference might be one of stereochemistry: change the sugar-phosphate connection. "
Most likely explanation is some non-scientists were just making a DNA-like design that look pretty. It was just a coincidence that it happened to match some complex real world 2,5 RNA. 
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Whoa, people believing in crop circles. I'm not saying its dumbasses.
but...
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the fact that there are people that believe this stuff kind of explains why Newt is doing so well in the primaries.
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"The central part of the Chilbolton pictogram shows that a DNA double helix as found on Earth, with 10 base pairs per turn, has been replaced on one side by a novel single-stranded helix with just 6 bases per turn. I had to work hard for several days, to discover that the single-stranded helix with 6 bases per turn refers to 2', 5'-linked RNA or DNA, as opposed to the normal 3', 5' variety. This is known to hardly any molecular biologist, and I found out only by making an accurate model. Since the chemical formula of the 6-base helix remains the same as before, I guessed that any difference might be one of stereochemistry: change the sugar-phosphate connection. "
No. Sorry, molecular genetics labs have been manipulating the stereochem of nucleic acids since before 1974. The genetics lab at Salk Institute (and other organizations) did a lot of this work. Hundreds of different molecular structures for nucleic acids have been modeled and synthesized previous to the appearance of the Chilbolton pictogram...including double or poly-helical models using 2' to 5' linkage. To claim that "this is hardly known to any molecular biologist" is, well, stupid. The VERY VERY VERY BASIC and WELL KNOWN information presented in that pictogram was easily accessible previous to the appearance. Trololololololololol.
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If I travelled millions of miles to get here I don't think some hicks in Missouri would be the first people I'd wanna communicate with.
Crop circles just show how boring it is to live out in the middle of nowhere.
Cept that these circles are directly outside and beneath Britain's largest Radio telescope observatory...
But ya it's hickville over there.
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If I travelled millions of miles to get here I don't think some hicks in Missouri would be the first people I'd wanna communicate with.
Crop circles just show how boring it is to live out in the middle of nowhere.
Considering that I'm one of those hicks, I could see where they'd want to do so!
Of course the urge to troll an alien so that I could brag about it here would probably insure they left and never came back, but we all have our demons.
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This one is very interesting though, especially the supposed 'reply' to Karl Sagan's message sent out 27 years earlier
So we send out a gold plated record that uses the mathematical correlation of pulsars to show the location of our planet... and the super advanced aliens "reply" by mowing the lawn?
You buy that? Seriously?
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Eager_Igraine
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Fascinating crop circle case..
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1. Something happens
2. ???
3. Therefore aliens
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GrymmDAOC posted:
I never understood why people would think that a high tech alien civilisation capable of bridging the vast gulfs between stars would choose to communicate with us via shapes in grass.
This one is easy, its all they figure we understand becasue we just sit down here and kill each other.
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