jonus156 posted:

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I wonder how accurate she is

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AkagiyamaMissile posted:

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Ginger wood elves!

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Caoilin posted:

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that bow is so confusing to me. i thought everyone used the pussy compound hunter bows that let you draw and fire them regardless of arm strength these days.

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Caoilin posted:

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that bow is so confusing to me. i thought everyone used the pussy compound hunter bows that let you draw and fire them regardless of arm strength these days.

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Caoilin posted:

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that bow is so confusing to me. i thought everyone used the pussy compound hunter bows that let you draw and fire them regardless of arm strength these days.

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Sgian_Dubh posted:

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Caoilin posted:

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that bow is so confusing to me. i thought everyone used the pussy compound hunter bows that let you draw and fire them regardless of arm strength these days.

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Nah, there are still some real archers out there.

A few years back I helped a buddy build an accurate replica of a 13th century English longbow with 150lb draw weight.

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jonus156 posted:

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I wonder how accurate she is

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-Kruugar- posted:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOEBCEMLJLw&feature=related

In Related videos for the OP vid.

Found it funny

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-Kruugar- posted:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOEBCEMLJLw&feature=related

In Related videos for the OP vid.

Found it funny

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-Rando- posted:

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jonus156 posted:

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I wonder how accurate she is

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Toward the end you see a target hanging from a string in front of the blankets. She is hitting it almost every time.

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Onslaught. posted:

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-Kruugar- posted:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOEBCEMLJLw&feature=related

In Related videos for the OP vid.

Found it funny

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Skyrim music.

Youtube is shut down.

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KonorLc posted:

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Hot.

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-Rando- posted:

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jonus156 posted:

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I wonder how accurate she is

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Toward the end you see a target hanging from a string in front of the blankets. She is hitting it almost every time.

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ferdinand.the.great posted:

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Not as much of a wood elf (Bosmer) as Rumer Willis:

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silvadel2 posted:

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Interesting -- I always thought it kind of a stretch to have 4-5 bow attack routines by a high level fighter in a 6 second span... I guess such is possible.

And a 150 lb bow must be a royal pain to string even if you can shoot it (properly).

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Cawlin posted:

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LOL!

Longbows historically varied in draw weights anywhere from around 80 lbs at full draw of around 30 inches to around 150 lbs by some estimates.

The English longbows tended to be heavier draw weights and the English and Welsh bowmen had a distinct method of drawing the bow which is vastly different than modern bow technique. To draw those bows with the huge draw weights (over 80 lbs) it was necessary to use your whole body rather than your arm pulling the string as you would with a "modern" bow. I don't care how strong you are, drawing a 150 lb bow is a tough piece of work. I'm not sure I could even manage it myself to be honest and I'm a pretty big, reasonably strong guy and in good archery shape from drawing my "pussy" compound bow of 70 lbs.

The bow depicted is probably around 20 lb draw weight at full draw - which they don't really reach on most shots either heh.


As for why compound bows are "preferred", it's about the "letoff" issue at full draw which in a modern compound bow is around 75% - so if it takes 70 lbs to draw the bow, you can hold it at full draw with only ~17.5 lbs of force. This makes it much easier to aim. Further, modern compound bows are fitted with peep sights - a ring in the string which forms the rear aperture, and pins on the riser which form the front post - and they're lined up just like a rifle.

With all of that said, bow technique still matters even with a compound.

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Derasio posted:

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Button release, kissers, sights, let off, sure you need technique but compared to any other type of archery, even competition recurve its pretty easy. I just have never seen the appeal at all. As for warbow shooting you also draw the string right back to the side of your head by your ear rather than the more standard lip draw. It's all about shoulder/back strength actual longbowmen were pretty deformed with huge slabs of shoulder muscle that made them hunch.

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Cawlin posted:

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Derasio posted:

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Button release, kissers, sights, let off, sure you need technique but compared to any other type of archery, even competition recurve its pretty easy. I just have never seen the appeal at all. As for warbow shooting you also draw the string right back to the side of your head by your ear rather than the more standard lip draw. It's all about shoulder/back strength actual longbowmen were pretty deformed with huge slabs of shoulder muscle that made them hunch.

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There's no reason you couldn't use a button release, kisser, or sights with a long bow - you'd just have to use different materials for the construction to handle that kind of thing.

As for the drawing and whatnot, again, of course they were "deformed" with wacky musculature - no two ways about it, again though battle archery they were firing with the purpose about equivalent to modern day "artillery" or "firing for effect" rather than acting like a modern day rifleman, picking out targets and trying to nail them. This is not to say that I don't think they were very accurate, certainly they were.

Incidentally, with a button release, you're actually pulling back to your ear - the extension of the string capture component of your release is why you pull the string only to your lip, but your hand is back at your ear. Fortunately with a compound, that last bit of draw is under much less weight than the rest of the draw though so it's not like the added length is taxing. When I release my bow the most proximal knuckle of my index (trigger) finger is anchored under my ear.

I am very much interested in learning traditional archery and how to be a so-called "instinctive" shooter, but it is cost and time prohibitive to be honest and with all my other shooting sports, I'm lucky if I get in an hour a week with my compound bow during the Spring, Summer, and Fall months.

My point wasn't to laugh at your post above mine by the way, I was laughing at people who don't really understand archery. Certainly the release is largely compensated for with typical compound bow setups, but you still need to draw the bow properly and quietly if you're hunting, and you still need to be able to aim it and hold it on target and gauge distances properly. In truth, it's distance judgement that separates good "hunting" archers from just average ones. You don't always have the time to take a laser range on your target and you need to be able to gauge that, and that's a tall order with the way your point of impact can change from say, 30 to 40 yards with even the most powerful compound bows.

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