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Or just let them go? 
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Depends on context.
Generally speaking, if the mistake was one that has permanently altered the dynamics of the relationship, probably not.
Example:
You cheat on your girl. To get her back means taking a permanent seat as second class citizen. She'll always be paranoid, will never forgive you and continue to throw the mistake in your face at every available turn. She now owns the upper hand in the relationship - you no longer have a relationship among equals. I'd let that go, no point in chasing something you are never going to get back.
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If you love them let them go......
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Only after I got my rocks off on as many hot chicks as it takes..
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If you cheat on your woman, you deny it til you die or you find another GF.
Having a paranoid gf that will bitch and moan every time you're late or she doesn't know where you are isn't worth it.
That's assuming you get caught. I've done plenty of mistakes that have gone unnoticed, and what she don't know won't hurt her.
I've also never found my "true love" mostly because I don't believe in that, so any mistakes I make with any girls is just another story to tell about an ex someday
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Taliesihne posted:
Depends on context.
Generally speaking, if the mistake was one that has permanently altered the dynamics of the relationship, probably not.
Example:
You cheat on your girl. To get her back means taking a permanent seat as second class citizen. She'll always be paranoid, will never forgive you and continue to throw the mistake in your face at every available turn. She now owns the upper hand in the relationship - you no longer have a relationship among equals. I'd let that go, no point in chasing something you are never going to get back.
I look at it in a different light. Why did I cheat I on her in the first place?
If I had a simple lapse in judgement, a moment of drunken weakness, it would mean something completely different than if I met another woman who moved me enough that I wanted her more than my lover.
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tenkly posted:
If you cheat on your woman, you deny it til you die or you find another GF.
Having a paranoid gf that will bitch and moan every time you're late or she doesn't know where you are isn't worth it.
That's assuming you get caught. I've done plenty of mistakes that have gone unnoticed, and what she don't know won't hurt her.
I've also never found my "true love" mostly because I don't believe in that, so any mistakes I make with any girls is just another story to tell about an ex someday
That is actually the truth about relationships. People are not meant to be monogamous, no matter how you argue it it's a fact so people will always find a way to get some action on the side even if ass backwards society says it is evil..
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Coriolus posted:
tenkly posted:
If you cheat on your woman, you deny it til you die or you find another GF.
Having a paranoid gf that will bitch and moan every time you're late or she doesn't know where you are isn't worth it.
That's assuming you get caught. I've done plenty of mistakes that have gone unnoticed, and what she don't know won't hurt her.
I've also never found my "true love" mostly because I don't believe in that, so any mistakes I make with any girls is just another story to tell about an ex someday
That is actually the truth about relationships. People are not meant to be monogamous, no matter how you argue it it's a fact so people will always find a way to get some action on the side even if ass backwards society says it is evil..
I've never strayed. I find it extraordinarily easy not to. I see zero truth in your statement and see it as a weak comment on human propensity for fidelity, honor, and integrity.
Further, I find it a cowardly excuse to say "we're not meant to." Who intended humans to be a certain way? If you really wanted something, you damn well know you wouldn't take "you weren't meant to have it" as justification. The simple fact is that you don't want to keep it in your pants and rather than manning up to that fact, you'd rather drag the rest of us down with you. Childish.
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Further, I find it a cowardly excuse to say "we're not meant to." Who intended humans to be a certain way? If you really wanted something, you damn well know you wouldn't take "you weren't meant to have it" as justification. The simple fact is that you don't want to keep it in your pants and rather than manning up to that fact, you'd rather drag the rest of us down with you. Childish.
Well most people are simply too afraid to stray which is why they don't.
I never said you can't control yourself but your biological makeup is clearly not designed to abstain..
Ugly people are also used to not getting laid so it's no big loss.. 
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I look at it in a different light. Why did I cheat I on her in the first place? If I had a simple lapse in judgement, a moment of drunken weakness, it would mean something completely different than if I met another woman who moved me enough that I wanted her more than my lover.
There are many different ways to put value on a relationship. Determining the reason for your transgression is definitely a valid view to take.
I'm more speaking to the practical side of this. If I did something that broke the relationship in a fundamental way, I'm saying it makes more sense to walk away because you are chasing a dream at that point. If you can't get it back, why bother?
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My biological makeup is also designed to murder people when I'm angry, run the hell away every time I'm scared, or freeze if I can't do either.
Considering both of us are still here, even after I perused the Outpost photo album, kind of tells you that you're more than your biological makeup.
Plus, if we weren't designed for it, we wouldn't have "evolved" into it.
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My biological makeup is also designed to murder people when I'm angry, run the hell away every time I'm scared, or freeze if I can't do either.
Considering both of us are still here, even after I perused the Outpost photo album, kind of tells you that you're more than your biological makeup.
Plus, if we weren't designed for it, we wouldn't have "evolved" into it.
You are not biologically wired to murder people when you are angry.. lol 
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Lover? Is this the 1980s?
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It's easy not to stray away when you don't get girls.
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Coriolus posted:
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
My biological makeup is also designed to murder people when I'm angry, run the hell away every time I'm scared, or freeze if I can't do either.
Considering both of us are still here, even after I perused the Outpost photo album, kind of tells you that you're more than your biological makeup.
Plus, if we weren't designed for it, we wouldn't have "evolved" into it.
You are not biologically wired to murder people when you are angry.. lol
Some of us are. Some have a mechanism built into them that allows them to stop before their rage becomes fatal.
It is only societies laws and training that have gotten us to the point we're at now. Not to mention the culling of our murderers from the gene pool through warfare, execution, and imprisonment.
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Lover? Is this the 1980s?
I think this was meant as a PM addressed to Cabby.
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The problem with Altra's argument is that he doesn't know how it feels to be surrounded by hot women who wants to bang you all the time.
If you did, you may not be able to say that you'd keep it in your pants.
I'm not saying I have hundreds of hot women wanting to bang me, but I have my share of decent/hot girls I can pick from all the time and have sex.
When I'm dating a girl, and there are a few other ones I'd LOVE to shag, odds are I'm not going to hold myself back. life's too short not to experience whatever you want, whenever you want to.
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I've never strayed. I find it extraordinarily easy not to. I see zero truth in your statement and see it as a weak comment on human propensity for fidelity, honor, and integrity.
Further, I find it a cowardly excuse to say "we're not meant to." Who intended humans to be a certain way? If you really wanted something, you damn well know you wouldn't take "you weren't meant to have it" as justification. The simple fact is that you don't want to keep it in your pants and rather than manning up to that fact, you'd rather drag the rest of us down with you. Childish.
 Very well said. My beliefs as well.
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The problem with tenkly's attack is that it shows he doesn't know how to properly satisfy a woman enough for her to want to please him . He has to resort to boning strangers who don't know him enough to know how quick and useless he is to them. Again, this goes back to being childish: a few quick, desperate thrusts are not going to entice a woman of quality to come back for seconds. This limits his relationship options to someone just as desperate as himself, and really who wouldn't cheat on that? The difference is, I wouldn't lower myself to date someone like that in the first place.
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The fundamental reasons why people don't stray is 3 fold:
1./ They are unattractive
2./ they are religious and therefore fear to do so
3./ They suck at life
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The problem with tenkly's attack is that it shows he doesn't know how to properly satisfy a woman enough for her to want to please him . He has to resort to boning strangers who don't know him enough to know how quick and useless he is to them. Again, this goes back to being childish: a few quick, desperate thrusts are not going to entice a woman of quality to come back for seconds. This limits his relationship options to someone just as desperate as himself, and really who wouldn't cheat on that? The difference is, I wouldn't lower myself to date someone like that in the first place.
If that's the case than howcome every single ex of mine has said they missed me ?
Howcome the same women that you say won't come back a second time, come back not only for seconds, but for thirds and fourth and much more?
Way to think that anyone who wants to sleep with more than one person means they're bad people, or that they don't know how to satisfy one.
ever think that maybe I'm just not satisfied with just the same girl? I've had women who met my every need, and I still strayed. I don't want to. I enjoy being intimate with different women. Thinking that means I have problems is stupid.
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We are not all wired to be cheaters. I dont have to hook up with anyone that is available.
I like being with one person.
What is the mistake? And what do you mean by do anything?
If you love someone, you have to try to get them back. That just means tell that person your feelings.
Im not going to feel like a loser for being spineless or soft with the person i love.
Will i let someone walk all over me? No. My love will go away and the dynamics of the relationship will change.
If you made a mistake - you have to ask yourself, why did i make this mistake? You probably dont want the other person, so let her go.
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
I've never strayed. I find it extraordinarily easy not to. I see zero truth in your statement and see it as a weak comment on human propensity for fidelity, honor, and integrity.
Further, I find it a cowardly excuse to say "we're not meant to." Who intended humans to be a certain way? If you really wanted something, you damn well know you wouldn't take "you weren't meant to have it" as justification. The simple fact is that you don't want to keep it in your pants and rather than manning up to that fact, you'd rather drag the rest of us down with you. Childish.
Very well said. My beliefs as well.
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tenkly, bro, a bit defensive, are we? The next step is going to be getting a random girl to make a video for you telling the Outpost how awesome you are. If you can't take it, maybe you shouldn't try dishing it. Poor form.
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How am I not taking it?
your opinion isn't truth, it's your opinion..
you think someone sleeping with more than a woman is bad, I don't. Doesn't make you more right than me lol
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You stated that I don't sleep around with women because I'm not surrounded by a ton of hot chicks trying jump me. You do realize I live in New York City, right? There are literally millions of them here, and there is something wrong with them if they don't want to jump me 
I simply retorted, in the same vein, that you need to sleep around because you can't keep the ones you do sleep with. I believe I also laced my comment with subtle references to your lack of stamina, girth, and potency.
Then you pull a MuffinKing and are all like "no way, the chicks all love me, they tell me how awesome I am all the time, random Outposter on the interwebs you have to believe me! I have sex with girls more than once, sometimes I sleep with them up to four times!"
Just saying you shouldn't get all defensive when I give you pretty much the exact same shit that you gave me. Your Outpost rep might be called into question... And then where will you be?
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I was just stating some facts from my side breh. I really can't keep in my pants for just one girl. I've tried and failed more times than I can count. I really don't believe I'll ever be able to just sleep with one person only for a long/extended period of time.
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me personally? no.
too many fish in the sea.
I don't see that there's any "one" person that is right for me when there's a planet full of women.
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I was just stating some facts from my side breh. I really can't keep in my pants for just one girl. I've tried and failed more times than I can count. I really don't believe I'll ever be able to just sleep with one person only for a long/extended period of time.
That's cool dude, i wasn't really talking about you then. Yeah I don't think it's right but I try not to judge, and I know theres always going to be cheaters and cheating in the world.
My ire was directed at those who try to rationalize their behavior by saying everyone does it, or it's only natural.
That's pretty insulting because it makes decent people out to be the abnormal ones or simply calls us liars.
Edited to remove subliminal messages my phone added.
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Best to move on if you can.
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tenkly
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
tenkly posted:
I was just stating some facts from my side breh. I really can't keep in my pants for just one girl. I've tried and failed more times than I can count. I really don't believe I'll ever be able to just sleep with one person only for a long/extended period of time.
That's cool dude, i wasn't really talking about you then. Yeah I don't think it's right but I try not to judge, and I know theres always going to be cheaters and cheating in the world.
My ire was directed at those who try to rationalize their behavior by saying everyone does it, or it's only natural.
That's pretty insulting because it makes decent people out to be the abnormal ones or simply calls us liars.
Edited to remove subliminal messages my phone added.
Well, not everyone does it, nor should they. I know some people are perfectly happy being with just one person and if if they can reach that level then all the power to them. Like I said in my first post, I really really don't think I'll ever find "the one" or anything similar. If I do, and she makes me change my ways than I'll be grateful but until then I feel like even trying to be monogamous is like lying to myself.. I can't do it. When I try I feel like I'm unhappy with the girl and I do things to indirectly push her away.
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if i was you, id start smoking crack again
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I will be the first to admit I made a mistake. However, I try to relax. I will not get obsessive about anything, including getting a lover back. Btw back where?
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The 'biological imperative' argument is total horsecrap btw. It's ego masquerading as intellect. Imo, people don't really believe they are powerless slaves to their base biological impulses, they just think their seed is so special it must be spread around. The pseudo-babble about evolutionary biology is a cop-out.
We are attracted to many people in our lifetime - that's undeniable. Whether or not you act on it is always completely within your control. The reason many people don't act out has more to do with a balanced sense of reality then anything else. Being in a long term stable monogamous relationship has more benefits then is possible to list in one thread. Despite appeals to sentiment, most of the time, the decision to not act on the 'biological imperative' is a simple cost\benefit analysis. Catting around starts to have serious consequences and most of the time it's simply not worth it.
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Rationalizations. Besides shit this is what some people are full of
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Bang everything that moves imo, it's the only way to be sure
..of what you ask?
That you won't regret you didn't on your death bed
That your seed gets distributed geographically at a decent rate
That you do not wake up in the middle of the night fapping like a mad man to some past possibility
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bone as many women as you like but dont be a giant pussy and lie about it
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I would do most anything
I don't cheat on people though, it's not in my blood. I am not capable of doing it I would say in fact. I won't/can't (more won't) get hard for someone who I have no respect for (a small list) so sex doesn't play as huge of a factor in my life (unless it is a porno)
BTW I respect every single one of you. Except GC, i mean seriously, logging into VN?
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I'm totally alone. This one girl customer when talking to me about dating and stuff said maybe I liked being alone
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Coriolus posted:
That your seed gets distributed geographically at a decent rate
They have abortions for this.
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I'd go find a better looking one and move on. I've done it several times. Not because I've made a mistake, but that's just the way the dominoes fell.
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I would say it depends on the other persons capacity to forgive and forget.
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Tenkly's bravado always makes me laugh.
Remember when he melted down over driving a Corolla? Good times.
Sometimes I wonder what happened in his childhood that made emphasizing how awesome he is so important to his sense of security.
But to address the question, probably. I'm a sucker for love, and I have a hard time quitting on someone especially if I feel I messed up.
I made a lot of big mistakes with my wife in the year leading up to our wedding, and as a result the first few years of our marriage were rough.
But we worked through it, and I think we're better off in a lot of ways. Once you've really messed up and seen the consequences you never want to do it again, and once you've forgiven something that hurts a lot the little things people fight over don't seem so bad.
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