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Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul’s press secretary Moira Bagley tweeted on Monday that Transportation Security Administration officials were detaining her boss in Nashville, Tenn.
“Just got a call from @senrandpaul,†Bagley tweeted at about 10 a.m. on Monday. “He’s currently being detained by TSA in Nashville.â€
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I bet some people going to get their asses chewed once this guy gets finished raising hell over it. Senate hearings anyone?
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I don't generally like Rand or Ron Paul - but most of the current TSA behavior is a violation of the 4th Amendment protection against unreasonable search (and seizure).
But people are so pansy-ass, that they put up with it for the pseudo-safety.
Someone just got a gun on to a plane last week - yes they managed to stop the plane before it took off...but they got a gun past these minimum-wage idiots.
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government shouldn't be above their own crappy policies.
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LOL.
So he refused a search and got detained... par for the course. Heaven forbid our officials aren't treated like the rest of us.
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notmforce2k posted:
LOL.
So he refused a search and got detained... par for the course. Heaven forbid our officials aren't treated like the rest of us.
This. If jobs are lost over this, there should be a bigger outrage than this guy being a little TO'd.
Then again, the TSA should just be gotten rid of in the first place, so whatever.
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notmforce2k posted:
LOL.
So he refused a search and got detained... par for the course. Heaven forbid our officials aren't treated like the rest of us.
That isn't his point. The point is no one should be subjected to the full-body pat-downs the TSA does. He's one of the few people who can refuse it and make a stink about it just to get the point across, without being arrested at the same time.
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So the government should say that people are no longer freely allowed to enter into private contracts?
If you actually read the terms and conditions of your contract with the airlines to fly on their planes you will see that you have consented to a search.
It is the same as a person giving permission to a cop to search their house without a warrant... it is not a 4th amendment issue.
Too bad the the M.D. does not know how law works.
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Rodriks_Fury posted:
notmforce2k posted:
LOL.
So he refused a search and got detained... par for the course. Heaven forbid our officials aren't treated like the rest of us.
This. If jobs are lost over this, there should be a bigger outrage than this guy being a little TO'd.
Then again, the TSA should just be gotten rid of in the first place, so whatever.
its unionized. good luck getting rid of it
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jeune posted:
So the government should say that people are no longer freely allowed to enter into private contracts?
If you actually read the terms and conditions of your contract with the airlines to fly on their planes you will see that you have consented to a search.
It is the same as a person giving permission to a cop to search their house without a warrant... it is not a 4th amendment issue.
Too bad the the M.D. does not know how law works.
You mean that service contract that is not attached to tickets, and you have to dig on corporate websites to find?
Good luck getting that upheld in court. It's the same kind of blanket boilerplate that has been tossed out multiple times before.
I agree that people, and corporations should be able enter into private contracts - but if they involve boilerplate, and absolutely ZERO transparency - it becomes another issue entirely.
Still doesn't impact the fact that people are giving up their constitutional protections for zero increased safety. No one is ever made aware, when they are purchasing a ticket, that they are giving the company selling the ticket a right to search their person, or belongings - as a condition of service.
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they should be required to hire their own private security to conduct the searches and pass that cost on to their customers.
This should not be run by the government, and certainly not charged to taxpayers who don't even fly.
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i have no choice but to go through this every time i fly. because of my leg, i can't do the full body screening that i refuse to do anyway. so i go through the metal detector and get whisked away to have a nice long groping session. then i get wiped down with pads to ensure i don't have any bomb trace elements on me. this whole process takes about 30 minutes. because i'm an amputee. they've actually tried to get me to let them scan my crutches through and have me hop through the gate before. i was like uh, no? (this was when i had a broken leg.) granted, i wasn't wearing shorts at the time because i was young and still self conscious about my prosthesis but the walking cast i had on was one of the removable brace ones and it had metal all over it. visibly. when i said no and then pointed to the cast and asked what part of removing some metal but not all of the metal did they think was a good idea, i was detained. the person suggested i take the cast off. then hop through. this was in 97. 
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Caoilin posted:
i have no choice but to go through this every time i fly. because of my leg, i can't do the full body screening that i refuse to do anyway. so i go through the metal detector and get whisked away to have a nice long groping session. then i get wiped down with pads to ensure i don't have any bomb trace elements on me. this whole process takes about 30 minutes. because i'm an amputee. they've actually tried to get me to let them scan my crutches through and have me hop through the gate before. i was like uh, no? (this was when i had a broken leg.) granted, i wasn't wearing shorts at the time because i was young and still self conscious about my prosthesis but the walking cast i had on was one of the removable brace ones and it had metal all over it. visibly. when i said no and then pointed to the cast and asked what part of removing some metal but not all of the metal did they think was a good idea, i was detained. the person suggested i take the cast off. then hop through. this was in 97.
lolwut?
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Point = made
Move along, Rand.
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JD_HOGG posted:
Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul’s press secretary Moira Bagley tweeted on Monday that Transportation Security Administration officials were detaining her boss in Nashville, Tenn.
“Just got a call from @senrandpaul,†Bagley tweeted at about 10 a.m. on Monday. “He’s currently being detained by TSA in Nashville.â€
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I bet some people going to get their asses chewed once this guy gets finished raising hell over it. Senate hearings anyone?
And why shouldn't they?
Do you see value in searching members of congress? Its stupid.
Whats next, making Obama get searched in case he wants to blow up the US? I mean, the TSA is idiotic.
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He's a United States senator for Christ's sake. Sworn to protect and uphold the Constitution.
What the TSA thinks?
Prolly a terrorist.
Ive heard of movie stars bypassing security completely because some TSA agent recognized them. But apparently if you're a SENATOR you're SOL.
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TBH they should do this to all politicians, I trust them less than I do anyone else.
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Gaevren posted:
notmforce2k posted:
LOL.
So he refused a search and got detained... par for the course. Heaven forbid our officials aren't treated like the rest of us.
That isn't his point. The point is no one should be subjected to the full-body pat-downs the TSA does. He's one of the few people who can refuse it and make a stink about it just to get the point across, without being arrested at the same time.
Agreed, someone needs to take a stand, and it is helpful if it's someone who will be noticed.
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It is illegal to detain or arrest a senator or congressman on their way to a hearing. Unless it's for treason etc. I don't know if he ended up making it on time, but that is illegal to hold him. Not that it matters to anyone here, no one gives two craps about the constitution here.
They should just turn people away if they refuse, not hold them.
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WhipSmack posted:
It is illegal to detain or arrest a senator or congressman on their way to a hearing. Unless it's for treason etc. I don't know if he ended up making it on time, but that is illegal to hold him. Not that it matters to anyone here, no one gives two craps about the constitution here.
They should just turn people away if they refuse, not hold them.
You mean the hearings that most senators attend 40% of the time? Yeah, we are the ones that don't give a crap 
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WhipSmack posted:
It is illegal to detain or arrest a senator or congressman on their way to a hearing. Unless it's for treason etc. I don't know if he ended up making it on time, but that is illegal to hold him. Not that it matters to anyone here, no one gives two craps about the constitution here.
They should just turn people away if they refuse, not hold them.
Didnt he detain himself by not cooperating? Not that Rand Paul gives a crap about the constitution either if he takes after his father.
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Oh, so he was headed to a hearing? Not to go speak at the March for Life anti-abortion rally??
They have worked so hard to keep US all in line that fine, maybe we should all be treated the same. They can submit or get detained like the rest of us. He wasn't the first politician to be moved aside and likely won't be the last. Like I sarcastically said above, heaven forbid a politician is treated like the people they represent.
I don't see this as making any kind of point except that he failed to submit to authority. In case he isn't aware, people don't like to joke around in airports these days. Someone on the road as often as he and his family is should remember that unless they're used to be catered to and travelling privately, in which case maybe he needed a reality check.
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Paul, who has previously called for the TSA to be abolished, told NBC News that passengers should not be subjected to pat-downs.
If Rand Paul supported the actions of the TSA before this incident, I agree he should shut up and go through with the screening like everyone else. However, I feel that it's fair for him to refuse a search on principle alone. It is effing ridiculous that him or any Senators should be searched, just as it's equally ridiculous that the TSA can do what they can to normal American citizens.
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who put the tsa in power? who thought it and made it go?
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This one is even better. TSA morons hard at work.
http://www.snopes.com/military/medal.asp
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who put the tsa in power? who thought it and made it go?
That would be the Rand Paul party, and they were super excited to put it in place. Its all about national security when they are the ones sitting in the big house.
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maybe being anti union had something to do with it.
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