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Topic: Unlicensed to kill

Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	The L.A. police chief and mayor are still holding to their guns and want to put the wants of unlicensed drivers over the safety of the public. They want to do away with the 30 day impound of vehicles driven by people without licenses because it is unfair to illegals who make up the majority of unlicensed drivers. The chief and the mayor would rather make it easy for them to drive the next day even though unlicensed drivers are 5% of vehicles on the road but cause 20% of fatal accidents. Sometimes supporters of illegal aliens are downright dangerous. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Friarspam Posts: 12,363 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 10,619 User ID: 1,200,702	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Any requirement for a license or insurance to anyone but white, male, conservative, heterosexual Christians is RACISMZ! -----signature----- My folks went on vacation and all I got was this lousy sig.
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paulg_68 Posts: 30,961 Registered: Jul 27, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,669 User ID: 1,364,918	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Libtardz posted: There's no way to treat people equally unless you first judge them based on the color of their skin. -----signature----- If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc "Everyone has a chance to become rich." - Groucho48 "Most of the human wealth on earth exists between the ears of live human beings." - theredkay1
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 36,223 Registered: Feb 19, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,592 User ID: 896,469	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Did some reading on this. Discovered, as I suspected, that you weren't telling the whole story. The change to the law has to do specifically with the practice of Police of impounding the vehicle of an unlicensed driver at a sobriety checkpoint. In California, and only in California, if you are caught without a license they then tow your car and impound it for 30 days. By contrast, if you get caught driving drunk, you can pick up your car the next morning. Also, the 20% statistic is a national statistic and is extremely connected to drunk driving. Essentially, the 1 in 5 fatal accidents is the result of some asshat that was properly licensed at some time but couldn't stop driving drunk so over the process of time they have had their licenses revoked. I would end the practice of the 30 day impound but still allow towing on the spot. Setting aside my aversion to the unreasonable search and seizure that is a sobriety checkpoint, the penalty is incredibly harsh and too regressive. A 30 day impound means a 30 day impound bill, plus court costs and the towing bill. If you can't pay the bill, they auction your car to recover the losses. Imo, it's state sanctioned theft that goes into the pockets of connected businesses. It's pretty appalling. Please note the distinction I'm making here - tow the car, but allow them to get it back the next day. -----signature----- Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire. -Roland Deschain, of Gilead
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Taliesihne posted: Did some reading on this. Discovered, as I suspected, that you weren't telling the whole story. The change to the law has to do specifically with the practice of Police of impounding the vehicle of an unlicensed driver at a sobriety checkpoint. In California, and only in California, if you are caught without a license they then tow your car and impound it for 30 days. By contrast, if you get caught driving drunk, you can pick up your car the next morning. Also, the 20% statistic is a national statistic and is extremely connected to drunk driving. Essentially, the 1 in 5 fatal accidents is the result of some asshat that was properly licensed at some time but couldn't stop driving drunk so over the process of time they have had their licenses revoked. I would end the practice of the 30 day impound but still allow towing on the spot. Setting aside my aversion to the unreasonable search and seizure that is a sobriety checkpoint, the penalty is incredibly harsh and too regressive. A 30 day impound means a 30 day impound bill, plus court costs and the towing bill. If you can't pay the bill, they auction your car to recover the losses. Imo, it's state sanctioned theft that goes into the pockets of connected businesses. It's pretty appalling. Please note the distinction I'm making here - tow the car, but allow them to get it back the next day. Why should they be allowed to get the car back the next day when they aren't allowed to drive it? The reason stated by chief Charlie Beck for this change is that it places an undue burden on illegals, since they can't get a license anyways the goal seems to be allowing them to get back to illegal driving the next day and that is just stupid. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 36,223 Registered: Feb 19, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,592 User ID: 896,469	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Pretty simple actually. You don't legally need a license to own a car, just to drive one. I personally don't think they have the requisite law behind them to seize property like that for so long. -----signature----- Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire. -Roland Deschain, of Gilead
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Taliesihne posted: Pretty simple actually. You don't legally need a license to own a car, just to drive one. I personally don't think they have the requisite law behind them to seize property like that for so long. It has already been upheld in the courts and is just good common sense. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 38,362 Registered: Sep 20, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 31,453 User ID: 718,633	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Drive drunk - collect your car the next day! Drive without a license - OMG NO CAR FOR U!!!!1111 -----signature----- (none)
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar Posts: 40,411 Registered: Mar 1, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,378 User ID: 1,032,223	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Neither should have their licenses. Driving is a privilege. -----signature----- We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. Drill Anwar! Kapie Drevid in Tanks
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 7,090 Registered: Aug 1, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,015 User ID: 1,312,136	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Yukishiro1 posted: Drive drunk - collect your car the next day! Drive without a license - OMG NO CAR FOR U!!!!1111 You have my support in your campaign to impound the vehicles of drunk drivers for 30 days. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.
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Voodoo-Dahl Posts: 14,875 Registered: May 11, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 13,135 User ID: 677,792	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Confiscating someones car for drunk driving is effing retarded. Especially since now the legal limit is set so low that the only people impaired by that much alcohol are fourteen year old girls drinking their first wine cooler. -----signature----- (none)
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 38,362 Registered: Sep 20, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 31,453 User ID: 718,633	Subject: Unlicensed to kill
	Voodoo-Dahl posted: Confiscating someones car for drunk driving is effing retarded. Especially since now the legal limit is set so low that the only people impaired by that much alcohol are fourteen year old girls drinking their first wine cooler. Good luck with your "driving drunk is no big deal" campaign. -----signature----- (none)
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