FineYoungCannibals posted:

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i like it alot, i'm not one of those retards that race to the end then complain about no content

it's a beautiful game

i heard it costed $500 million to make

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Hawkson posted:

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FineYoungCannibals posted:

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i like it alot, i'm not one of those retards that race to the end then complain about no content

it's a beautiful game

i heard it costed $500 million to make

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Last number I heard was $150M. So, you're kind of...way off.

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-Mithan- posted:

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Hawkson posted:

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FineYoungCannibals posted:

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i like it alot, i'm not one of those retards that race to the end then complain about no content

it's a beautiful game

i heard it costed $500 million to make

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Last number I heard was $150M. So, you're kind of...way off.

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No he isn't. Go do some searches. $350-500 million.

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Hawkson posted:

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-Mithan- posted:

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Hawkson posted:

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[blockquote]FineYoungCannibals posted:

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i like it alot, i'm not one of those retards that race to the end then complain about no content

it's a beautiful game

i heard it costed $500 million to make

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Last number I heard was $150M. So, you're kind of...way off.

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No he isn't. Go do some searches. $350-500 million.

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Hawkson posted:

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SWTOR: General Board? Fine. I'm willing to. I have your word I won't get banned if it starts a board riot? Or did you mean on EA's TOR forums?

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Besides their non-existent customer service I have no issues.

I complained about the memory leak/texture overwrite issue a bunch, but seriously the lack of timely customer service will piss any customer off.

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Besides their non-existent customer service I have no issues.

I complained about the memory leak/texture overwrite issue a bunch, but seriously the lack of timely customer service will piss any customer off.

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Jesus Christ, just f'king quit already.

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Besides their non-existent customer service I have no issues.

I complained about the memory leak/texture overwrite issue a bunch, but seriously the lack of timely customer service will piss any customer off.

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Jesus Christ, just f'king quit already.

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10 days to get a response

yeah there is no excuse for that.

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Escapist Article posted:

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Of course, EA is keeping mum about how much money it actually spent, so there's no hard data to support this theory. Still, it wouldn't be all that surprising if it turned out to be true: If you're going to make a game that will possibly unseat World of Warcraft, you better go big or go home.

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Doug Cruetz - an analyst posted:

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"I think it's safe to say that the total all-in investment in 'Star Wars' is probably approaching half a billion dollars. EA has minimized its risks as much as it can on this bet, but it's still a risky bet. To the extent that any one game defines his tenure, it's going to be how Star Wars performs."

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MMORPG.com posted:

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This means that, assuming EA is only giving The Old Republic a year to break even (remember, an aggressive measure), EA is requiring $153 million from The Old Republic to break even. Round that down a bit to $150 million, and that starts to look suspiciously like the sort of round number batted around in executive planning sessions, doesn't it?

$150 million dollars.

This would easily make The Old Republic the most expensive computer game ever produced.

And that is what I mean by EA attempting, at one swoop, to spend the rest of the industry into the ground. Because EA is one of the few publishers that can even consider a $150 million project.

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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[quote=Sith_Mauler]Besides their non-existent customer service I have no issues.

I complained about the memory leak/texture overwrite issue a bunch, but seriously the lack of timely customer service will piss any customer off.

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Jesus Christ, just f'king quit already.

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10 days to get a response

yeah there is no excuse for that.

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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[quote=Gilligan.USCG][quote=Sith_Mauler]Besides their non-existent customer service I have no issues.

I complained about the memory leak/texture overwrite issue a bunch, but seriously the lack of timely customer service will piss any customer off.

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Jesus Christ, just f'king quit already.

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10 days to get a response

yeah there is no excuse for that.

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Hawkson posted:

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So - we've got estimates on both ends of the spectrum. EA won't divulge the numbers. So...that leaves us where?

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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It's been playable for me and many, many, many other people. Sounds like an issue with your system.

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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It's been playable for me and many, many, many other people. Sounds like an issue with your system.

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and the many many other people that has created threads that number into the 10's of thousands of posts?

really stop being ignorant.

the devs even said it was a issue with some broken coding forcing some machines to overwrite textures instead of deleting them from cache.

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Chogram posted:

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I played through the 10 level tutorial area.

Does the entire game limit you to not being able to group with friends of the same class?

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regulator_cracka posted:

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Oh, I feel a board riot breaking out.


*331M

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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Sith_Mauler posted:

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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It's been playable for me and many, many, many other people. Sounds like an issue with your system.

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and the many many other people that has created threads that number into the 10's of thousands of posts?

really stop being ignorant.

the devs even said it was a issue with some broken coding forcing some machines to overwrite textures instead of deleting them from cache.

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So they obviously knew about it. Why waste customer services' time telling them about something and expecting a response for something they already know about?

Oh, and a few thousand people having issues? Out of reported 1.5mil players? Sounds like a pretty low percentage..

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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Chogram posted:

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I played through the 10 level tutorial area.

Does the entire game limit you to not being able to group with friends of the same class?

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You obviously didn't play the game..

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Chogram posted:

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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Chogram posted:

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I played through the 10 level tutorial area.

Does the entire game limit you to not being able to group with friends of the same class?

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You obviously didn't play the game..

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Whenever you go into a "Green wall" area it says "No more than one player of this type of class can enter."

It happens 3-4 times through the first 10 levels.

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Chogram posted:

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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Chogram posted:

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I played through the 10 level tutorial area.

Does the entire game limit you to not being able to group with friends of the same class?

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You obviously didn't play the game..

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Whenever you go into a "Green wall" area it says "No more than one player of this type of class can enter."

It happens 3-4 times through the first 10 levels.

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Chogram posted:

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So the answer to my question would be yes... it still happens.

Nobody else finds that pretty annoying?

If myself and 3 friends want to quest and play the same class, we have to do them all 3 times

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first article posted:

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The implications of this figure are even more staggering when you think it through a bit more. Take for purposes of back-of-the-envelope speculation that EA is willing to give The Old Republic a year to earn back their investment (a very aggressive figure, by the way). And let's just assume that out of your stereotypical $15-a-month subscription fee (which Bioware has hinted is not the only possible revenue source for the game), much of that is taken up due to operational expenses - bandwidth, facilities costs, keeping a live team on the payroll. It's safe to say that Bioware will need probably close to a 25-person live team (an expansion presumably having its own budget). Assume $250,000 a month in payroll and facilities costs (and I am probably vastly underestimating here). Figure $2 per person per month in bandwidth, facilities, and server support (a very rough estimate based on prior performance, and assuming the MMO provider is hosting their own servers and buying bandwidth in bulk). Everything else - ignoring for the sake of discussion marketing, community, any other cost - is operating profit, which by EA's own estimation has to go back to fund that initial investment so that they can break even.

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Dark_EternalFF posted:

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Pros-

Really strong single-player storylines, Bioware-style storytelling. At least Empire-side; I've heard the Republic, and the Jedi in particular, are kind of letdowns. I'm almost done with my Inquisitor storyline and it's been a blast. I've heard the Agent storyline is good as well, so I'll roll one of those up too. The Warrior, so far, hasn't been as interesting as the Inquisitor storyline, but they get way more darkside choice opportunities.

The mod system is really strong; I've been wearing the same set of armor for 30 levels simply because I haven't found anything that I like the look of better, and I'm not gimped for making that choice. The mod system allows me to keep up.

For the most part, the worlds and their individual storylines are interesting. Tatooine, Hoth, and Corellia have probably been my least favorite.

There is a variety of quest and group content to do the entire time you're levelling. I never had to sit and grind mobs to advance; I'm 50 and I still haven't finished Corellia, or my class quest. I did only one Flashpoint (instance) while levelling with an actual group at the level it was intended for; the rest I just let sit in my quest log and soloed them later. It's nice that I'm not forced into doing that to advance.

The 'I've wandered into an area and am assigned a kill quest' or Bonus Quests are great, because they're largely optional, they're automatically assigned, and more often than not you end up completing them just trying to achieve your primary quest objective (which is usually a lot more interesting than 'collect 6 boar meats').

I haven't encountered any game-breaking bugs. Most of the time my companions just despawn when I feel they shouldn't (like after taking a taxi) but that just means I get to summon them and slap them in the face with my racial. Punishment for your sins, worm!

Cons-

Space combat, while pretty-looking, is rather dull. It's not poorly done in the sense that it's buggy, it's just kind of a jarring transition from normal play to...HD Starfox.

If you're like me and you wait until the level cap to start your professions, you'll find it tedious. It's also pretty expensive. It's not a bad system, but I wish it didn't consume so much time.

Some of your companions are basically useless beyond their individual storylines. I switch between two (DPS and Tank) and that's about all I need. It's also a pain to gear them, because they'll suck horribly unless you find socketed items and waste planet commendations on buying mods for their gear. This is in addition to trying to buy your own commendations.

I can't speak for level-cap content yet, so I'll hold my thoughts on that for now.

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Dark_EternalFF posted:

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Oh yeah I forgot to mention - my biggest gripe about the whole game is lack of UI customizability. Hell, just a UI scale option would be nice.

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Myn_Darklighter posted:

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Chogram posted:

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Gilligan.USCG posted:

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[quote=Chogram]I played through the 10 level tutorial area.

Does the entire game limit you to not being able to group with friends of the same class?

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You obviously didn't play the game..

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Whenever you go into a "Green wall" area it says "No more than one player of this type of class can enter."

It happens 3-4 times through the first 10 levels.

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Ibbeh posted:

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regulator_cracka posted:

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Oh, I feel a board riot breaking out.


*331M

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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!

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Ibbeh posted:

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Oh Barry. That guy makes it worth watching. One cool fella

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Lyndrek posted:

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I couldn't last two weeks

I loved the Knights of the old republic games.

I couldn't get into this one.

it just felt like I was playing WoW with a star wars skin. Maybe it was the sage class but the storyline was uninteresting and I didn't care about the characters at all. Wish I could have had a different companion at the start,

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Lothland posted:

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At least for the imperial side stage 2 has always been different, it's almost annoying when you finish stage 1 to kill 20 of X and then stage 2 comes up and it's 40 of the exact same mobs. I haven't run in to this at all on the Imperial Side.

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Shelendil posted:

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Lothland posted:

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At least for the imperial side stage 2 has always been different, it's almost annoying when you finish stage 1 to kill 20 of X and then stage 2 comes up and it's 40 of the exact same mobs. I haven't run in to this at all on the Imperial Side.

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Then you haven't been looking very hard.

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