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I know they dont want to, it makes them look horrible. It'd practically kill Pauls campaign. I'm not really sure I see the purpose in it aside from sensationalism. Everyone already knows they are all filthy rich and try to skimp on taxes as much as possible. Everyone also knows they insider trade to make tons of money. Seems stupid.
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I know they dont want to, it makes them look horrible. It'd practically kill Pauls campaign. I'm not really sure I see the purpose in it aside from sensationalism. Everyone already knows they are all filthy rich and try to skimp on taxes as much as possible. Everyone also knows they insider trade to make tons of money. Seems stupid.
It does matter it can point out the hypocrites and liars. However it shouldn't be a requirement but if another candidate calls you on it, well then its your choice. If you say no it becomes a character issue, and the general public is like what is this guy trying to hide?
Even the evil Obama paid a 26% tax rate for 2010.
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It does matter it can point out the hypocrites and liars.
Even the evil Obama paid a 26% tax rate for 2010.
Who is dumb enough to believe they arent all hypocrites and liars?
Romney doesnt want to disclose his because it shows he's paying hardly anything in taxes compared to the rest of us and wants to lower the tax rate further for his rich friends only.
Gingrich doesnt want to release his because he's filthy rich and shares almost nothing with middle america either in values or lifestyle.
Ron Paul is all tied up in big oil and getting paid handsomely for it, he isnt voting to give them subsidies because its a failing industry.
Santorum is probably writing off hookers or something.
Obama is probably getting kick backs from everyone.
And they are all insider trading.
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Cuttlery posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
It does matter it can point out the hypocrites and liars.
Even the evil Obama paid a 26% tax rate for 2010.
Who is dumb enough to believe they arent all hypocrites and liars?
Consider your source there.
Yes, I guess if they want public orifice, they should open their finances for examination. My only real concern is that they are not tax dodgers or worse.
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Cuttlery posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
It does matter it can point out the hypocrites and liars.
Even the evil Obama paid a 26% tax rate for 2010.
Who is dumb enough to believe they arent all hypocrites and liars?
Romney doesnt want to disclose his because it shows he's paying hardly anything in taxes compared to the rest of us and wants to lower the tax rate further for his rich friends only.
Gingrich doesnt want to release his because he's filthy rich and shares almost nothing with middle america either in values or lifestyle.
Ron Paul is all tied up in big oil and getting paid handsomely for it, he isnt voting to give them subsidies because its a failing industry.
Santorum is probably writing off hookers or something.
Obama is probably getting kick backs from everyone.
And they are all insider trading.
all the more reason for it.
I am not grandstanding for Obama but this guy is the epitome of the American Dream , poor black kid from a dysfunctional family, and became the president.
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Tax returns are not required by the Constitution but it would be nice if they chose to; however, birth certificates...
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Absolutely not.
That's private, personal information. There is no reason for them to have to disclose it.
Besides, if you don't already think that they're all hypocrites and liars...
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Even the evil Obama paid a 26% tax rate for 2010.
See, this is the problem...
Did Obama pay 26% of EVERYTHING HE EARNED in 2010 or did he just pay 26% on some tiny portion of it?
The whole tax discussion is muddied by folks who either intentionally or out of ignorance make statements like that without clarifying or qualifying them.
Maybe it's just that the tax code is FUBAR...
If you make $2 million in a year, but pay a 26% rate on $250k of it, with $1.75 million of it declared nontaxable - you really didn't pay 26% taxes...
The tax code is absurd and people are willfully ignorant I suppose.
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Maybe it's just that the tax code is FUBAR...
Not Maybe.
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Tax returns are not required by the Constitution but it would be nice if they chose to; however, birth certificates...
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I know they dont want to, it makes them look horrible. It'd practically kill Pauls campaign. I'm not really sure I see the purpose in it aside from sensationalism. Everyone already knows they are all filthy rich and try to skimp on taxes as much as possible. Everyone also knows they insider trade to make tons of money. Seems stupid.
If they want to disclose, sure.
However, I don't care about your taxes. What people pay in taxes is totally irrelevant to the bigger picture.
The only thing I want to know is that the guy isn't cheating on his taxes in some way and that can be done by a private auditor who can release a public statement.
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Nope.
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I don't care about it. Shouldn't be a legal requirement, but if other people volunteer I think it's not surprising that the media will harp on all the others for not also volunteering. It's what they do.
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Id be more inclined to vote for the guy/gal who payed the least % in taxes no matter how much they earned.
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Don't really care either way but if I had to choose no, I don't think they should have to. No real purpose to it.
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should have to disclose who donated and how much was donated to their super pacs
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No it doesn't matter, and honestly, Newt sounds like a liberal shill calling for the release of tax returns. It's a giant red herring to the real issues that should be discussed.
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tax returns - no
School Transcripts - yes
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Why should the candidates and appointments have to disclose their tax records before creating new insane tax laws for the rest of us?
Ron Paul would transparency that ****
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Mitt must be very uncomfortable about his tax havens or he wouldn't be so squeamish about releasing his tax returns.
Could cost him the election. That's a shame.
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its everybody's right to pay as little in taxes as legally owed, I don't understand the big deal.
of course if somebody wants to write the IRS a fat check out of the goodness of their heart the IRS isn't gonna turn its nose up to the money.
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[b]legally[/b] That just might be part of the hangup. There's legal and then there is frowned upon. Especially when it's a legal something that us peons can't take advantage off.
Npr just said Newt is up 4 to 6 pints now.
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AliHajiSheik posted:
Tax returns are not required by the Constitution but it would be nice if they chose to; however, birth certificates...
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would you vote for one that didnt if the other guy did ?
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all members of congress should be required to disclose their tax returns
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I don't really understand what purpose it serves? We already know they are rich. We already know they have tax advisors, lawyers, investment advisors, etc. who get them the most breaks. Now if a candidate claimed to do/believe in something like not claiming charitable donations then I think it would be acceptable to expect him or her to show their tax return as proof that they live by what they preach.
But I don't see what showing off a return is going to prove in most cases?
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I don't really understand what purpose it serves? We already know they are rich. We already know they have tax advisors, lawyers, investment advisors, etc. who get them the most breaks. Now if a candidate claimed to do/believe in something like not claiming charitable donations then I think it would be acceptable to expect him or her to show their tax return as proof that they live by what they preach.
But I don't see what showing off a return is going to prove in most cases?
It is a democratic strategy mostly. They know that people are dumb and may not vote for somebody because they are "rich".
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