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I wonder what Romney would give them if he won
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He will work extra hard at not giving them anything . He won't want to ruin chances for future Mormons.
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I dont trust Romney. Like Edwards he is just too smooth and polished.
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Mormons already control 2 states and they breed faster than any other demographic.
In 100 years I bet they control 10.
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What's the other state? (Utah is obviously one)
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Idaho...
At least the southern part of the state. They have a pretty strong presence in both Washington and Oregon, too. I've noticed they're getting more involved in politics at every level, from city councils and school boards to, well, the POTUS. Then again it's the fastest growing religion in the US so it shouldn't exactly be a surprise. It would be interesting to see a statistical analysis of their growth in politics, though, and see if it's commensurate with their grown in population.
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Srsly? Idaho?
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Srsly? Idaho?
Srsly. Remember they have BYU campuses in Utah, Idaho, and Hawai'i, so you can find lots of them in those states. Seems to be quite a few here in Washington, too, they come knock on my door pretty regularly.
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Heh. Cool, I guess. Just didn't know that.
Mormons are harmless.
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Srsly? Idaho?
Yes, Idaho. You remember, the deep red state that shares a long border with Utah? Lots of Mormon families settled into the southern part of the state. Napoleon Dynamite (made by a Mormon) was filmed there, where the filmmaker grew up. BYU has a campus there (Ricks College).
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Heh. Cool, I guess. Just didn't know that.
Mormons are harmless.
Like other faiths, it depends on just how mormony they are. True believers are going to be ultra conservative and work extra hard to legislate their beliefs.
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So in the long term, is this going to mean extra wives for us all? 
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So in the long term, is this going to mean extra wives for us all?
I thought the extra wives thing was only for the special, super-elite and well-connected folks. So think of them like tax breaks, you only get extra if you are already rich and powerful, osemthin.
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Most men can barely handle one wife
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Real men handle women just fine. Go feed Audrey.
And Eager I may have to convert, or upgrade, or brighamShazam or some such.
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Women arent easy to deal with lol
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Bonkster, you are out of step brother. You need to take the time and come to understand yourself before you attempt to understand women.
No insult intended. We all have our pasts and yours sounds sad. If I could send extra healing mojo your way I would. Find the bonkster and find your confidence.
Everything else is easy after that.
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Real men handle women just fine. Go feed Audrey.
And Eager I may have to convert, or upgrade, or brighamShazam or some such.
You'll need to be careful though, the current political situation leaves the Mormons somewhat not in control of everything, so it is still "Not OK" to have multiple wives even in their official rules. So don't get caught or anything.
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So in the long term, is this going to mean extra wives for us all?
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The men in poly relationships usually aren't what you imagine. They are husbands 24\7 - have very little time for themselves, huge amounts of responsibility and are part-time diplomats. Tbh, I personally kind of admire the dedication it takes to do that. It's tough work. And not for everyone.
Most of you are confusing polygamy with a harem.
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The men in poly relationships usually aren't what you imagine. They are husbands 24\7 - have very little time for themselves, huge amounts of responsibility and are part-time diplomats. Tbh, I personally kind of admire the dedication it takes to do that. It's tough work. And not for everyone.
Most of you are confusing polygamy with a harem.
What are the Mormon rules on wife bea ... discipline within the family?
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It only works because Mormons believe men are the leaders in the family and women are weaker. I still think it would take quite the man to handle multiple women
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What are the Mormon rules on wife bea ... discipline within the family?
That kinda depends on what sect you are looking at.
I wasn't necessarily speaking just about Mormons btw, more about poly relationships in general. And successful\happy ones at that. I wasn't trying to condone the obviously dark side of this, which imo should be called what it is - sexual slavery.
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What are the Mormon rules on wife bea ... discipline within the family?
That kinda depends on what sect you are looking at.
I wasn't necessarily speaking just about Mormons btw, more about poly relationships in general. And successful\happy ones at that. I wasn't trying to condone the obviously dark side of this, which imo should be called what it is - sexual slavery.
Heh, I have enough of a challenge in relationship with one woman, I can't imagine the challenge of a poly where everyone cared about each other enough to be invested in making it work. But from what I know, that isn't how most socially / religiously derived polys have historically operated. Sexual slavery sounds much more accurate.
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It rarely ends well as it's so fraught with challenges. But people do manage it occasionally.
I was just trying to point out the misconception that a real poly relationship - one that functions - is not a harem. It's extremely difficult.
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It only works because Mormons believe men are the leaders in the family and women are weaker. I still think it would take quite the man to handle multiple women
Weaker? Not necessarily. Required by God to submit to their husbands? Yes.
Besides, you guys are talking about the crazy Mormon faiths now. The LDS church hasn't condoned polygamy for a long, long time now, and they're the ones that are gaining in power quickly.
Also as far as Mormons being harmless - I'd say they're better than the average citizen. But the LDS Church can be quite anti-progressive in its goals and is not afraid to push a little bit to see them through.
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yeah and Mormans no longer believe that Blacks have tails and are from Satan. They have come a long way!!
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yeah and Mormans no longer believe that Blacks have tails and are from Satan. They have come a long way!!
I think they believed the mark of Cain was their skin color...but I'm not completely clear on that. I just know it took until the 80's for them to allow blacks into the priesthood.
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I wish we had forums for when Kennedy went through the primaries.
It would have been interesting to see if there were dichotomies.
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I wish we had forums for when Kennedy went through the primaries.
It would have been interesting to see if there were dichotomies.
People were afraid JFK would give his allegiance first to the pope/RC church, then to America. TBH I think he owed his allegiance at least as much to his pants as to his country.
Only the fundy mormons practice polygamy, the mainstream church outlawed it around 100 years ago (although its leaders continued to practice it for another 15-20 years and the doctrine that it's necessary for salvation is still included in their scriptures). They do say that "following the prophet" (current church president) is about the most important thing you can do in life though, so it would be interesting to see if a mormon got elected to a position with enough political power whether or not the church president would start flexing his muscles and try to influence politics more.
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It's no coincidence that most people think the Mormons only control one state. They are playing sneaky. They will have a 3rd and a 4th state before too long. If people were aware what was happening, they would resist.
Now while people don't realize what's happening they can get people used to the idea of being lead by a Mormon. In another decade or two, it will be much much harder to get a Mormon into the Whitehouse if people haven't already been acclimated to the idea.
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The men in poly relationships usually aren't what you imagine. They are husbands 24\7 - have very little time for themselves, huge amounts of responsibility and are part-time diplomats. Tbh, I personally kind of admire the dedication it takes to do that. It's tough work. And not for everyone.
Most of you are confusing polygamy with a harem.
What are the Mormon rules on wife bea ... discipline within the family?
Waiting for a Mastboro qoute on this one.......
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Heh. Cool, I guess. Just didn't know that.
Mormons are harmless.
No they are not.
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Heh. Cool, I guess. Just didn't know that.
Mormons are harmless.
No they are not.
Like I said, Mormons as individuals are excellent citizens. The LDS church, on the other hand, has an agenda and a considerable amount of wealth and power to direct into it.
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It's no coincidence that most people think the Mormons only control one state. They are playing sneaky.
This made me giggle.
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Heh. Cool, I guess. Just didn't know that.
Mormons are harmless.
No they are not.
Like I said, Mormons as individuals are excellent citizens. The LDS church, on the other hand, has an agenda and a considerable amount of wealth and power to direct into it.
This.
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