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he did this yesterday .....for all the nubs who argle blargled about him not returning to make a vote that wouldn't have changed anything the day before the Iowa primary.....you can suck it
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You watch, the detractors will blame Paul despite the house leadership blocking Paul's bill from going any further.
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Turns out that the 1st class flights he took were because he upgraded with frequent flyer miles and that all the tickets he bought using his congressional budget (which he returns a portion of to the treasury each year) were bought as coach. How many retractions or apologies will anyone see?
Also he has now sued the person that made the Jon Huntsman video for libel and slander or something like that. The subpoena will be able to at least find out who made it. There has been some evidence pointing it to the Huntsman campaign and more specifically his daughters.
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So when he had a chance to make his vote count, he chose not to.
When he knows that this new bill of his will go nowhere, he makes some noise and you guys cheer.
Morons.
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He spoke out against NDAA before the date the bill was brought to the floor to vote, the video is on youtube. The vote was right before the IA caucus, he is running for president remember. He voted against the patriot act.
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Can we give credit to Obama for everything he tried to get done,or is being a leader and knowing how to get things done not important?
With all the time Paul has had in office you'd think he know the best time to stop a bill is before it is passed. 
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So when he had a chance to make his vote count, he chose not to.
When he knows that this new bill of his will go nowhere, he makes some noise and you guys cheer.
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Obama? Get credit for anything good? Nah..
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So when he had a chance to make his vote count, he chose not to.
When he knows that this new bill of his will go nowhere, he makes some noise and you guys cheer.
Morons.
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So when he had a chance to make his vote count, he chose not to.
When he knows that this new bill of his will go nowhere, he makes some noise and you guys cheer.
Morons.
When you have a chance to make sense you choose not to as well. Should we vilify you to the same degree?
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Apaulogists yesterday: "It doesn't matter that he didn't vote against the NDAA because it would have passed anyhow."
Apaulogists today: "He's going to submit an amendment to the NDAA! Ron Paul is the greatest!"
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You watch, the detractors will blame Paul despite the house leadership blocking Paul's bill from going any further.
Easiest prediction ever.
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Aerlinthian posted:
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You watch, the detractors will blame Paul despite the house leadership blocking Paul's bill from going any further.
Easiest prediction ever.
If only he had had the opportunity to do something on a bill that wasnt being blocked by house leadership. And imagine if it was a bill closely related to this one? If only......
You are right though. We cant really blame RP for the fact that he is completely powerless in Congress and cant influence any noticeable block of congressmen, even though he has been there forever. What we need in the White House is a man who is completely powerless and has no power of persuasion, only this person can create the massive change we are looking for.
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theredkay1 posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
You watch, the detractors will blame Paul despite the house leadership blocking Paul's bill from going any further.
Easiest prediction ever.
If only he had had the opportunity to do something on a bill that wasnt being blocked by house leadership. And imagine if it was a bill closely related to this one? If only......
You are right though. We cant really blame RP for the fact that he is completely powerless in Congress and cant influence any noticeable block of congressmen, even though he has been there forever. What we need in the White House is a man who is completely powerless and has no power of persuasion, only this person can create the massive change we are looking for.
As opposed to all this awesome hope and change we've got going for us now?
Seriously there are levels of delusion that aren't even measurable and then there is you...
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@ theredkay1
It starts with one. The more people that hear his message without the MSM or other liars twisting it, the more that come around to understanding that there has been a lone fighter fighting for a very long time against a raging corporatist/bureaucratic machine that doesn't give a rats ass about the average person or the founding ideals of the nation that was the womb that gave us so much opportunity in the first place.
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Maybe but at least they're trying.
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Having an up and down vote on this one issue is a good idea.
RP is a clown but this is a good move IMo.
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As opposed to all this awesome hope and change we've got going for us now?
Seriously there are levels of delusion that aren't even measurable and then there is you...
I never thought Obama would revolutionize DC with his magic powers. He didnt ever try to make that case in the election. All of his policy ideas were small changes to the status quo.
Im sorry you werent paying attention. But keep after them thar windmills!
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As opposed to all this awesome hope and change we've got going for us now?
Seriously there are levels of delusion that aren't even measurable and then there is you...
I never thought Obama would revolutionize DC with his magic powers. He didnt ever try to make that case in the election. All of his policy ideas were small changes to the status quo.
Im sorry you werent paying attention. But keep after them thar windmills!
Wow.... He tried in every imaginable way to make that case pre-election. If he'd have been even half successful or even DONE ONE THING he campaigned on he'd still have my vote.
You're just a shill though no sense even giving you the benefit of a response.
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Ron Paul - Single Handily trying to improve America one bill at a time!
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That's just it, isn't it? You can't change the country singlehandedly. America doesn't work that way. Congress doesn't work that way.
Too little, too late, imo.
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we should just give up and keep voting for the same media endorsed tard every time
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reesescups posted:
Ron Paul - Single Handily trying to improve America one bill at a time!
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That's just it, isn't it? You can't change the country singlehandedly. America doesn't work that way. Congress doesn't work that way.
Too little, too late, imo.
You are right, so we shouldn't help him at all. We should keep electing the effing morons that are ruining this country and have been blocking Ron Paul for how many decades???
Christ you are a moron!
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we should just give up and keep voting for the same media endorsed tard every time
The bad news is that they will. The good news is that crowd is shrinking.
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Ron Paul's followers are looking for a savior. There are no saviors.
Wrong as usual. As Dr Paul has said along, it is about the message of liberty and getting people to think again in that context.
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It's amusing watching all the folks who mocked Obama supporters for going over the deep end in their fervor for Obama, going over the deep end in their fervor for a 76 year old who has virtually no accomplishments in a decades-long Congressional history.
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Devout followers of a savior figure seem to latch onto some vague phrase(s) that can mean anything. The key to a good savior movement is to never be very specific. Picking things like 'message of liberty' is straight out of the textbook.
It doesnt really mean anything so the lemmings can go nuts with it without ever expecting any concrete actions/results.
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Nothing he votes for or supports EVER happens. This is what would happen if he was president. He would rule by executive order and he would veto every bill in congress.
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reesescups posted:
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
reesescups posted:
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That's just it, isn't it? You can't change the country singlehandedly. America doesn't work that way. Congress doesn't work that way.
Too little, too late, imo.
You are right, so we shouldn't help him at all. We should keep electing the effing morons that are ruining this country and have been blocking Ron Paul for how many decades???
Christ you are a moron!
Yes, because putting an ineffectual mouthpiece in charge is so smart and works so well you support our current president, right? Face it, you're caught up in a politicians fancy campaign of hope and change.
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Obama declares he will not use provisions of the Amendment that he disagrees with and the Obama haters mock him for doing so. Paul is too cowardly to show up for a vote and then tries to cover himself by pushing a bill that his own party won't even let come to a vote and his supporters claim this is proof that HE is the Messiah.
Priceless.
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Thats BS. OBama wont use it and maybe the couple of presidents after him wont use the provisions but SOME PRESIDENT WILL USE THEM
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Obama's claim is BS and making people address one very specific issue at a time is a great way to target legislation and legislators.
I get hating on RP but people are starting to hate on him in an irrational way as well as defend him in completely irrational ways.
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OBama wont use it but a future president WILL
I cant believe obama signed that horrible bill into law. he is worse than bush for doing that
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Thats BS. OBama wont use it and maybe the couple of presidents after him wont use the provisions but SOME PRESIDENT WILL USE THEM
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Then, perhaps Ron Paul, as a senior member of the House, should have taken a bit of time off from his campaigning, and lobbied other members of the House, AND Obama to get enough votes to sustain a veto.
I would have liked to have seen Obama veto the bill. I criticized him for not doing so. But, the Paulbots can't allow the least criticism of their Dear Leader to go unchallenged.
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Yes ron shouldve done that but Ron doestn build coalitions and get real things passed. He just casts symbolic votes to make himself look good but accomplish nothing
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Groucho48 posted:
Obama declares he will not use provisions of the Amendment that he disagrees with and the Obama haters mock him for doing so. Paul is too cowardly to show up for a vote and then tries to cover himself by pushing a bill that his own party won't even let come to a vote and his supporters claim this is proof that HE is the Messiah.
Priceless.
Yes and Obama sure has held to his word on EVERYTHING NOW HASN'T HE!!!
Sometimes I think you guys get dumber just to piss me off.
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imaloon1 posted:
Groucho48 posted:
Obama declares he will not use provisions of the Amendment that he disagrees with and the Obama haters mock him for doing so. Paul is too cowardly to show up for a vote and then tries to cover himself by pushing a bill that his own party won't even let come to a vote and his supporters claim this is proof that HE is the Messiah.
Priceless.
Yes and Obama sure has held to his word on EVERYTHING NOW HASN'T HE!!!
Sometimes I think you guys get dumber just to piss me off.
He has at least as much as Paul has. Nnanji posts a thread every now and then showing how many campaign promises he's kept.
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Paul is a anti-regulation,smaller government,free market,anti-welfare,Anti-science,Fair Tax,supply side economic republican who votes about 75% of the time the exact same way as the majority of republicans do .He is one of the problems in our government not one of the solutions.
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
reesescups posted:
You are right, so we shouldn't help him at all. We should keep electing the effing morons that are ruining this country and have been blocking Ron Paul for how many decades???
Christ you are a moron!
Yes, because putting an ineffectual mouthpiece in charge is so smart and works so well you support our current president, right? Face it, you're caught up in a politicians fancy campaign of hope and change.
What on earth ever made you think I support effing Obama? Are you literally brain dead?
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Ron Paul is your messiah. Obama was the messiah for many democrats fed up with the previous administration.
Ron Paul is running on Hope and Change. Obama ran on Hope and Change.
Ron Paul has done substantially little in his political career. Obama had done little in his political career before becoming President.
Ron Paul is a mouthpiece for his movement. Obama is a mouthpiece for his movement.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for more of the same.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama.
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
Ron Paul is your messiah. Obama was the messiah for many democrats fed up with the previous administration.
Ron Paul is running on Hope and Change. Obama ran on Hope and Change.
Ron Paul has done substantially little in his political career. Obama had done little in his political career before becoming President.
Ron Paul is a mouthpiece for his movement. Obama is a mouthpiece for his movement.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for more of the same.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama.
Your such a clown - for a sec there I thought you were being serious...
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I can't be serious with you, you obviously can't handle it. 
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Truth - Too much stupid from one person tends to get me going a bit.
I thank you from saving me from all of your stupid, no matter how much you truly throttle it.
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Why is the reply to Ron Paul critics always "but Obama"? I don't get it. Anyone with brains enough not to vote for Ron Paul surely isn't going to vote for Obama, unless he's a retarded partisan moron.
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noone worth voting for, but someone hand picked is going to win America is a dirty pig country full of idiots. The ship is sinking fast, your all going to drown and most of you should.
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