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Right now Pepe and Sergio Busquests seem to be having a personal grudgematch to see who can flop more spectacularly and shamelessly. So far Pepe is winning with that absolutely ridiculous flop from the non-contact from Fabregas where he literally stayed down on the ground for a minute rolling around in pain holding his right cheek when the replay shows Fabregas' hand touched Pepe's left shoulder.
People like these douches ruin the sport. 
edit: And WTF Pepe just stomped on Messi's hand CLEARLY on purpose, 3 feet away from the ref in plain view, and only got a yellow? WTF is this ref doing? That's a straight red any day of the week.
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wat?
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Sounds awesome chief
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Sounds awesome chief
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Soccer needs to grow up like every other sport and start using instant replays.
Even tennis got over itself and started using technology to get the calls right.
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i dont understand why grown men feel the need to flop and pretend to be hurt
wtf?
i see this every soccer game i watch
the problem is the yellow/red card system
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Sounds awesome chief
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Sounds awesome chief
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Elocism posted:
the problem is the yellow/red card system
It's not really. The problem is that you don't GET a card for blowing things out of proportion.
Pepe should have been given a yellow for simulation when he flopped holding the right side of his face and the replay shows Fabregas' hand didn't even come within a foot of his face at all. Instead he gets no punishment at all.
Also you do not see it every game. What you see every game is not people flopping. When you get kicked it hurts and falling to the ground is not unreasonable especially when you have to do something to show the ref you've actually been fouled.
What is the bane of the game is people like Pepe who make something out of nothing. I have no trouble with someone falling down holding their leg when they get kicked. But when the replay shows they didn't even get touched that should be an automatic yellow or even a red.
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i only said that because it seems to me that the yellow/red penalties are very harsh and could put you down a man pretty quickly
that sounds like incentive to flop to me
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Elocism posted:
i only said that because it seems to me that the yellow/red penalties are very harsh and could put you down a man pretty quickly
that sounds like incentive to flop to me
You have to have the cards though. They put them in because people's legs were getting broken regularly.
It does create an incentive to flop but we have video replay and while I don't support stopping the game there is no reason not to have one of the assistants looking at the replay before the decision is made. And there is DOUBLY no reason not to have someone look at it AFTER the fact and come back and book people for simulation.
I can see the argument for no video replay during the game but I cannot see the argument for not reviewing things afterward and issuing cards after the fact when the video evidence is clear. In fact they do do that for intentional violence the referee doesn't spot. There's no reason they also couldn't do it for other stuff.
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Soccer is  so nobody really cares.
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If there aren't bones sticking out, just keep playing.
If there are bones sticking out, get taped up and get back in the game.
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Floppers do indeed suck. I don't pay attention to soccer, but I get the same crap in basketball. In both cases, the solution seems to be better use of instant replay and calling fouls (or cards or whatever) for flopping.
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arent they already supposed to give a yellow for a flop?
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Elocism posted:
arent they already supposed to give a yellow for a flop?
I dunno soccer. If it is already in the rules, then the floppers suck less than the refs do.
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You can get a yellow card for simulation on the pitch. Several were handed out at the last world cup.
Diving is primarily done to:
- draw a foul when in the opponents goal box. Success rate for pk's at a pro level is north of 90%. And in pro matches, one goal is all it takes - so you are talking about the match. (Personal note - I have won 3 games for my own team in the last 5 years doing this)
- trying to get an opponent tossed. 2 Yellows = 1 Red. Red card means you are gone for two games and your team can't replace you in the match where the card was given, so they play down. Being one man up is a big deal
- dealing with continuous play. The clock DOES NOT STOP in soccer. Not for a cramp, not for a loose shinguard, not for a bloody nose or untied boot. It's the only way to manage the clock. Sometimes minor injuries are played up a bit to force the tempo of the game down and give your team a chance to settle down.
Some players are just actors though. They do it for the attention. Even soccer players hate those douches.
Most of what you are seeing is strategy. Or misinterpreting actual fouls - as Yuki noted, it's hard to understand the sheer speed the game is played at unless you are up close (or are a player.) It doesn't take much to upset balance at those speeds....people tend to not be graceful when they are sprinting and get tripped, and that's essentially what happens in soccer.
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Elocism posted:
arent they already supposed to give a yellow for a flop?
Yes, but it only ever happens when there is no contact at all. I've never, ever seen a card given for someone who gets brushed by someone's fingertips and writhes around for minutes on the ground as a result.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
I watch soccer and hate fags who flop
Let me guess. You also watch the NHL and hate white guys? no. Then certainly you watch the NBA and hate black guys.
Ok then, maybe you're just a LWN who watches a lot of Fox News.
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