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http://www.salon.com/2012/01/17/why_do_the_republicans_nominate_blue_bloods/

"Nor does Republicanomics serve the interests of captains of industry. If the Republican economic plan were drafted by CEOs of American-based companies that actually make things, rather than rearrange money, it would not necessarily please liberals but it would bear little resemblance to the rentier-friendly plans pushed by the Wall Street right. The emphasis would be on a permanent R&D tax credit, lower corporate taxes, depreciation allowances, public infrastructure investment, policies to lower the costs of energy and other inputs, dollar devaluation and other policies to promote the inshoring of production in America. Genuine captains of industry would not assign priority to estate tax relief and low capital gains taxes for the benefit of the trust fund set like the Bushes and Romneys.

The conclusion is inescapable. The Republican Party is not really a pro-business party at all. It is a pro-hereditary wealth party. Its platform serves the interests of those few Americans who are born into wealth and seek to preserve their fortunes, not those who start new companies or invent new technologies. Naturally, therefore, the party’s presidential candidates are chosen nowadays from among the pedigreed, hereditary social elite who are the chief beneficiaries of its policies."

Pretty damning and accurate. The Republican economic platform is mainly about helping rich people, not about helping business.

 

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That website was absolutely the most unbiased I have ever been to.

I especially liked the attack on his hair products. I guess that makes sense being named salon.com


"The elitist history of Mitt Romney’s slick hair
Is grease good? His hairstyle reminds us of Gordon Gekko, film's top vulture capitalist, but goes back further"


silly

 

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You can't refute an argument by pointing to the speaker. An unreliable or biased source may suggest you shouldn't trust the facts. But the only facts in the article are undisputed and have to do with Republicans favoring things like lower capital gains taxes and abolishing the death tax.

 

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Yukishiro1 posted:http://www.salon.com/2012/01/17/why_do_the_republicans_nominate_blue_bloods/

"Nor does Republicanomics serve the interests of captains of industry. If the Republican economic plan were drafted by CEOs of American-based companies that actually make things, rather than rearrange money, it would not necessarily please liberals but it would bear little resemblance to the rentier-friendly plans pushed by the Wall Street right. The emphasis would be on a permanent R&D tax credit, lower corporate taxes, depreciation allowances, public infrastructure investment, policies to lower the costs of energy and other inputs, dollar devaluation and other policies to promote the inshoring of production in America. Genuine captains of industry would not assign priority to estate tax relief and low capital gains taxes for the benefit of the trust fund set like the Bushes and Romneys.

The conclusion is inescapable. The Republican Party is not really a pro-business party at all. It is a pro-hereditary wealth party. Its platform serves the interests of those few Americans who are born into wealth and seek to preserve their fortunes, not those who start new companies or invent new technologies. Naturally, therefore, the party’s presidential candidates are chosen nowadays from among the pedigreed, hereditary social elite who are the chief beneficiaries of its policies
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Pretty damning and accurate. The Republican economic platform is mainly about helping rich people, not about helping business.






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Kerry and Kennedy are both hardcore working stiffs! laugh

 

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You do realize that Obama is related to Bush and Cheney. 9th and 11th cousins or something like that.

thinking

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/are-obama-and-cheney-related/

 

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Articles in descending order on your sites front page:

~Why do the Republicans nominate blue bloods?
The potent combination of Jacksonian populism and old money oligarchy

~Romney gave millions of dollars to Mormon church
Including in the form of lucrative pieces of Bain Capital investment deals

~The elitist history of Mitt Romney’s slick hair
Is grease good? His hairstyle reminds us of Gordon Gekko, film's top vulture capitalist, but goes back further

~Mr. One Percent’s wealth and tax troubles
Mitt Romney's speaking fees alone lift him out of the 99 percent, but he says $374,000 in a year is "not very much"

~South Carolina, the troublemaker
Republicans campaign for votes in a state that is proud, reactionary and a little crazy

~Capitalism’s real “risk-takers”
Workers, not Romney's bailed-out Wall Street CEOs, are the ones actually putting their livelihoods on the line

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Why would I pretend to have an argument based on a site like that?

That is unashamed bias on its grandest scale and set to pander to a specific world opinion.

No reason to argue with someone that is not looking for an argument, only a reaffirmation to their already solidified views.

 

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Bobvillas posted:
No reason to argue with someone that is not looking for an argument, only a reaffirmation to their already solidified views.


I see you've met Yuki.

 

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Someone should inform multi-millionaire Barack Obama!

 

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Very few Middle Class people become president.

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Someone should inform multi-millionaire Barack Obama!


Read the article. They are looking at how people grew up, not their current financial status. Therefore Kerry made it into the blue-blood catagory even though until he married his new rich wife he was practically living out of his car.

Reagan and Dole were both middle class candidates, as were Clinton and as Obama is. Clinton you could even say came from a poor background.

 

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Clinton grew up as a poor black child. There was even a movie about him...

 

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Well blue blood are born into money and clearly many people from both parties are like this. The most common thing is most people are millionaires before they enter high government posts be it congress or the presidency.

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Afio posted:


That almost killed me. breeeeathe. Vlad the impaler?? laugh

 

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Isn't everyone related to everyone else by about the 12th step?

 

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Much to no ones surprise, Yuki is going to vote for Obama now.

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The Republicans are not pro-business, they're pro-wealth. The policies they support and push show this quite clearly.

What's that got to do with who I'm going to vote for (and I'm not, incidentally)?

Your random interjections are becoming less and less comprehensible.

 

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On topic, its laughable that these arguments have been silent for most of the past 3 years, ignoring Obama's wallstreet cronies making policy, and only now stir into motion as the repubs gather to get a nominee. Obama will get far more love from wallstreet than any repub this year, and yet they successfully get the sheep to throw rocks at the repubs while Obama continues to screw your pooch.

The OWS stupidity seems to be contagious: good intentions, horrible targeting and implementation.

 

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Its just the attack they are going to use on Romney, who will lose to Obama by a few points. It will be close though

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Obama doesn't want to cut capital gains more nor does he want to abolish the estate tax. So it seems like you're the confused one as relates to the particular issues being discussed.

 

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Obama just wants to spend money. Why wont you let him do that Republicans?

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On topic, its laughable that these arguments have been silent for most of the past 3 years, ignoring Obama's wallstreet cronies making policy, and only now stir into motion as the repubs gather to get a nominee. Obama will get far more love from wallstreet than any repub this year, and yet they successfully get the sheep to throw rocks at the repubs while Obama continues to screw your pooch.

The OWS stupidity seems to be contagious: good intentions, horrible targeting and implementation.
Silent? Ignoring Obama's ties???

This is the base of OWS...

If you think OWS is giving Obama a pass or is there to help Obama to get re-elected I think you've been paying too much attention to Special-Fred and Blue-arrow.

 

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Then you have ignored the last 6 months with hippies on Wallstreet and not in DC.
I told you guys version 1.0 would fail because of their stupidity.
It has.
Hopefully the next version is smarter.
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Then you have ignored the last 6 months with hippies on Wallstreet and not in DC.
I told you guys version 1.0 would fail because of their stupidity.
It has.
silly

They fail because they identified the bi-partisan pool of eff America scum bags???

 

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BTW I don't disagree about Obama also being in Wall Street's pocket.

But saying the positions of the two parties are the same on wealth is just not true. Democrats do not favor cutting capital gains more nor do they favor abolishing the estate tax. Republicans this time around seem to be heavily in favor of both and make both central parts of their economic plans.

 

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If I ever get one wish from a genie, it is for all partisans to get instantly launched at escape velocity on a trajectory to the Sun.


PS that Afio cartoon is hilarious.

 

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If I ever get one wish from a genie, it is for all partisans to get instantly launched at escape velocity on a trajectory to the Sun.

That is a strange thing to wish upon yourself. grin

 

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Scarne posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
If I ever get one wish from a genie, it is for all partisans to get instantly launched at escape velocity on a trajectory to the Sun.

That is a strange thing to wish upon yourself. grin


I HOPE HIS WISH COMES TRUE!

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You do realize that Obama is related to Bush and Cheney. 9th and 11th cousins or something like that.

thinking

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/are-obama-and-cheney-related/


We have a 50% chance to be 9 or 11th cousins. fyi.

 

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The political discussion in this country is great, not cutting capital gains rates will be a political win for "progressives."

The right has learned something important in politics. It is all a game. If all of the outcomes of the game don't include a loss then you have already won.

 

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LOL! 9th cousins.... WOW! What a coincidence.



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Clinton grew up as a poor black child. There was even a movie about him...




Yah 8 Mile was awesome.



 

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