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Gingrich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka0LMt5ciRc V obama hope and change unicorns and rainbows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtxqtBq0uVw
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You're a pussy.
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You must hate him!
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Yeah, lets fire those "overpaid" janitors and replace them with 30 kids who make less combined than that janitor did. Holy fucking shit, republicans are idiots.
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cabbyman posted: You must hate him!
Consequently, you must love him.
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Ptilk posted: Yeah, lets fire those "overpaid" janitors and replace them with 30 kids who make less combined than that janitor did. Holy fucking shit, republicans are idiots.
Actually this makes a lot of sense. I think it's genuinely a good idea to have a vocational program where the students can take care of the school, they get paid a little cash. I wouldn't have them work in the cafeteria though. Taking care of the grounds and janitorial duties isn't demeaning. I would have done this instead of working at grocery store in high school.
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Ptilk posted: Yeah, lets fire those "overpaid" janitors and replace them with 30 kids who make less combined than that janitor did. Holy fucking shit, republicans are idiots.
Yeah. it's funny because I agree with Newt's general posit. And that is that we need to provide more opportunity at the bottom to work and to better oneself. But I completely agree with you that we also need to provide jobs good enough for them to support themselves and their family on. He made it seem like we just need to get the serfs back in the fields. Maybe that's how he really feels, maybe not, but it's definitely how he came across.
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Gingrich is scum and will have no support here in CO. I am friends with the republican leadership and none of them will support him. And Gingrich isn't even on the ballot in VA. He is second rate and his supporters are second rate that need some more education on economics, liberty and the constitution.
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Poor peoples kids do shit work for pennies an hour while rich peoples kids study. Sounds like a "conservative" dream come true. Nothing wrong with making money, but I think concentrating on an education while you are a child would be a much more productive thing....unless of course you think learning to clean toilets is going to be of more use to that poor kid than an education would be. Jebus.....you don't even have to try to make "conservatives" look like evil, stupid, bastards....they are proud of doing so and cheer themselves on.
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Ptilk fully approves of the increased crime in most of the larger cities the last few years. That Philly mayor sure is a raging repub to call the disruptive youth stupid and tell them to get jobs and be productive. Where was the outrage when he said it? Oh wait, he is black and dem. It only causes teeth gnashing when repubs say it.
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racist, tells you to buy a belt and pull up your pants http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgIOqlhBtAc&feature another racist. tells you that you are Screwed By no one else but yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGqlrVmVULc&feature
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Not a Newt fan but he clearly hit a grand slam out of the park with his economic reasoning. Economic leftists are incapable of admitting this if they are even able manage to understand his points.
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So Newt wants these "30 kids" to work for 50 cents an hour? Is he so far removed from the common man that he does not know it isn't the 50s and even kids will not work for 50 cent. LOL Republicans will wet their panties over the most stupid crap!
"Janitors who work in schools in Boston and New York City earn the highest average annual salaries of $34,921 and $33,111, respectively, as of December 2010"
Read more: The Average Salary of a School Janitor | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_7759899_average-salary-school-janitor.html#ixzz1jkD6P1Bz
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cabbyman posted: You must hate him!
Consequently, you must love him.
I do love pussy...
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Hey, he is teaching them a "valuable life lesson". Namely that if you are poor, expect to get paid very little for doing a hard job for the rest of your miserable life while he spends a couple million at Tiffanys on his third wife while telling everyone else how to act morally just like him. You can't make up stuff that funny.
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Ptilk posted: Hey, he is teaching them a "valuable life lesson". Namely that if you are poor, expect to get paid very little for doing a hard job for the rest of your miserable life while he spends a couple million at Tiffanys on his third wife while telling everyone else how to act morally just like him.
You can't make up stuff that funny.
Yep. The guy is a grade a douchenozzle.
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Receiving a public education in exchange for a few hours of janitorial work is actually quite high pay. 7 hours a week for 30 weeks a year = 210 hours worked per year. Price of a public education = $10,000 / year $10,000 / 210 hours = $47.62 / hour And it's not even taxed.
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paulg_68 posted: Receiving a public education in exchange for a few hours of janitorial work is actually quite high pay.
7 hours a week for 30 weeks a year = 210 hours worked per year.
Price of a public education = $10,000 / year
$10,000 / 210 hours = $47.62 / hour
And it's not even taxed.
Are we going to start charging the non-poor kids too? Or are we going to live in a Paulg untopia where only poor kids have to pay for school?
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So all kids have to be janitors now?
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Yukishiro1 posted: Are we going to start charging the non-poor kids too? Or are we going to live in a Paulg untopia where only poor kids have to pay for school?
Are we going to stop making non poor kids parents pay actual cash for school, or are you suggesting we make non poor people pay twice?
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Sin_of_Onin posted: So all kids have to be janitors now?
There are lots of jobs to do at a school. Gardening, food prep, rug making, garment sewing, etc.
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I am glad to see that in the Paulg hierarchy the opportunity to use child labor trumps the gubmint employing everybody.
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I'm curious, how do poor kids (or their parents) don't pay for education while non-poor kids (or their parents) pay?
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Crooq_Lionfang posted: I'm curious, how do poor kids (or their parents) don't pay for education while non-poor kids (or their parents) pay?
Most schools are locally funded (city/town/etc). Those local funds are mostly in the form of property taxes. Obviously, rich people pay lots of property tax while poor people pay little to none (although a lot do rent so the property tax costs are figured into what their rent is).
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Sin_of_Onin posted: So all kids have to be janitors now?
There are lots of jobs to do at a school. Gardening, food prep, rug making, garment sewing, etc.
Shouldn't the "only" job we require of students be to be studious?
JFC, some of you assclowns would sell your own mother IF she were worth something.
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Scarne posted:
Crooq_Lionfang posted: I'm curious, how do poor kids (or their parents) don't pay for education while non-poor kids (or their parents) pay?
Most schools are locally funded (city/town/etc). Those local funds are mostly in the form of property taxes. Obviously, rich people pay lots of property tax while poor people pay little to none (although a lot do rent so the property tax costs are figured into what their rent is).
My point exactly
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Get kids to clean......
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Scarne posted:
Crooq_Lionfang posted: I'm curious, how do poor kids (or their parents) don't pay for education while non-poor kids (or their parents) pay?
Most schools are locally funded (city/town/etc). Those local funds are mostly in the form of property taxes. Obviously, rich people pay lots of property tax while poor people pay little to none (although a lot do rent so the property tax costs are figured into what their rent is).
Paul's grasp of tax isn't sophisticated enough to understand concepts like passing on the cost. Until last year he thought if you made a dollar more you'd be taxed at the higher bracket on all of your income.
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I remember that thread. That was a great one
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So are we at the point where folks are celebrating race baiting?
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SoBaKi posted: Shouldn't the "only" job we require of students be to be studious?
No.
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SoBaKi posted: Shouldn't the "only" job we require of students be to be studious?
No.
No surprise there.
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Yukishiro1 posted: Are we going to start charging the non-poor kids too? Or are we going to live in a Paulg untopia where only poor kids have to pay for school?
Are we going to stop making non poor kids parents pay actual cash for school, or are you suggesting we make non poor people pay twice?
Poor kid's families either pay property taxes or pay rent to a landlord who pays property taxes. And, this plan would make a lot more poor people...school janitors. And, of course, a kid is bound to get hurt doing this stuff. Or, mess something up and cause a lot of expensive damage. Being a janitor maybe isn't as skill intensive as a lot of jobs but it's not as easy and straight-forward as folks like Gingrich seem to assume. I doubt he could do it. Now, if the school were to pay poor kids to do community service stuff that no one is being paid to do now, I'd say that was probably a good idea.
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Right, some family that's paying $900/month in rent is actually covering the cost of their 2 kids public education at $10k per year (each) because their landlord is paying $2k per year in property taxes on the apartment.
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Ptilk posted: Yeah, lets fire those "overpaid" janitors and replace them with 30 kids who make less combined than that janitor did. Holy fucking shit, republicans are idiots.
Yeah. it's funny because I agree with Newt's general posit. And that is that we need to provide more opportunity at the bottom to work and to better oneself. But I completely agree with you that we also need to provide jobs good enough for them to support themselves and their family on. He made it seem like we just need to get the serfs back in the fields. Maybe that's how he really feels, maybe not, but it's definitely how he came across.
Well we can't have them all uppity and agitated like they are now now can we...
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