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"word of advice" ....don't become a taliban terrorist

 

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Blue_arrow posted:
"word of advice" ....be white

 

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Blue_arrow posted:
"word of advice" ....don't become a taliban terrorist




Taliban didn't attack us. It was our old buddies Al Qaeda who were mostly Saudis. Taliban were just defending their land.

 

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Desnoxvu posted:
Blue_arrow posted:
"word of advice" ....don't become a taliban terrorist




Taliban didn't attack us. It was our old buddies Al Qaeda who were mostly Saudis. Taliban were just defending their land.



Defend your land against Republicans and you will be shot and pissed on.

 

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Desnoxvu posted:
Blue_arrow posted:
"word of advice" ....don't become a taliban terrorist




Taliban didn't attack us. It was our old buddies Al Qaeda who were mostly Saudis. Taliban were just defending their land.


Only we aren't trying to take their crappy land. We were/are there to kill turrists... and perhaps piss on a few of them after we kill them. Taliban, Al Quaeda, etc. They're all the same animal. They are basically fighting us because they are racist and because they want to continue their strangle hold on the population with Islamic law. They are very anti democracy - though when I think about the model of our own democracy I can't blame them for being cynical and /outraged by it.

Besides, pissing on them pales in comparison to the things they do. Ever watched a beheading on the internets? Hard to feel bad for those fukers.

 

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Huges07.1 posted:
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Besides, pissing on them pales in comparison to the things they do. Ever watched a beheading on the internets? Hard to feel bad for those fukers.


What, you think being beheaded is a worse way to go than being gunned down by some remote Apache whilst carrying a camera?

Pretty marginal.

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Desnoxvu posted:
Blue_arrow posted:
"word of advice" ....don't become a taliban terrorist




Taliban didn't attack us. It was our old buddies Al Qaeda who were mostly Saudis. Taliban were just defending their land.


not really that simple:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Al_Qaeda

 

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Desnoxvu posted:
Blue_arrow posted:
"word of advice" ....don't become a taliban terrorist




Taliban didn't attack us. It was our old buddies Al Qaeda who were mostly Saudis. Taliban were just defending their land.



silly

 

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Z-Elder posted:
Defend your land against Republicans and you will be shot and pissed on.
Contrary to your rhetoric, the war mongers have long occupied both sides of the aisle.

http://youtu.be/9JE48XHKG64

Also, the neoconservatives came out of the left and the Democratic party of which there is a mountain of published historical fact on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative

 

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If we had done the right thing back in 89 and gone in when the russians left and helped them rebuild we wouldnt be there today I feel certain of that.

 

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SirGarth posted:

not really that simple:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Al_Qaeda




And even THAT link (wikipedia, laugh )is quite the simplification in regards to actual relationships between certain organizations in that area of the world. It has all been simply wrapped up nicely in a tidy package and transmitted to you through the airwaves. Inside that package are terms like "Al Qaeda" and "Taliban!". In reality, the overwhelming majority of the insurgency in Iraq had little or nothing to do with Al Qaeda (or any of the other labels the Pentagon, CIA and MSM tried to shove down your wide-open throats). They were mostly just dudes from the hood. Home-boys that didn't want soldiers there. There most certainly was a somewhat of a nationalistic undercurrent for some of them. Sort of a "this is Iraq, GTFO white boy" kind of thing. There was (and still is) the sectarian dynamic. That was a "We're gonna take the opportunity to fck up some Sunni folk, so stay out of the way US, or we'll fck you up, too" kind of thing. But even more important than these dynamics are the tribal dynamics that exist there, and the failure to understand the tribal dynamics in Iraq as they relate to local, regional and national government, sectarianism, and local economies. And these internal dynamics were continually influenced by neighboring nations who wished (and wish) to manipulate these local, regional and national entities towards their own purposes. Al Qaeda my ass. Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI)? Nope. Get that shit out of here.
And you know what? A similar reality holds true in Afghanistan. Failure to understand tribal demographics, tribal history, and the history of local, regional and national governance in Afghanistan is a failure to understand the nature of most of the fighting in that country. Failure to understand what the Taliban truly is, and the frequency with which its influence is grossly overstated, is a failure to understand who our military is fighting against in a given area on a given day. Home-boys and farm-boys. And Warlords, although that term wants for accuracy. Fck the Taliban. That's another package that has been wrapped up nicely and forced down your throat. Most of you swallow it willingly.
It is in our cognitive nature to tend towards a monolithic explanation for the events that take place around us. This cognitive tendency is purposefully exploited by the Pentagon, Central Intelligence Agency and the media. Al Qaeda and Taliban? Pffft.

 

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