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i still like the idea though
theres a lot of welfare bums out there
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i still like the idea though
theres a lot of welfare bums out there
I agree just whats good for the goose should be good for the gander.
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i agree that its hilarious and ironic but this shouldnt damage his intentions
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what does testing welfare recipients for illegal drug use have to do with drinking alcohol and driving?
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what does testing welfare recipients for illegal drug use have to do with drinking alcohol and driving?
Just those are his standards and he cant live up to them imo he shouldn't be advocating it and while their may be a need he should just just keep his F*****ng mouth shout and let someone else take up that cause.
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what does testing welfare recipients for illegal drug use have to do with drinking alcohol and driving?
Just those are his standards and he cant live up to them imo he shouldn't be advocating it and while their may be a need he should just just keep his F*****ng mouth shout and let someone else take up that cause.
so there is far more to the story then?
i wasn't aware that the law he wants would ban legal alcohol too.
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I think that if they are going to do drug testing for welfare they need to do it randomly and not only at the application step. However, testing every applicant (and only applicants, not current participants) isn't fiscally beneficial and ends up costing the state too much money. Whereas I thought the whole point was to save money.
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take his welfare check away!
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take his welfare check away!
why not just take his job away as an elected official he shouldn't be doing something as unpopular as dui. I mean come election time he will probably get booted out of office but why should it wait that long?
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suntzukali2 posted:
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take his welfare check away!
why not just take his job away as an elected official he shouldn't be doing something as unpopular as dui. I mean come election time he will probably get booted out of office but why should it wait that long?
You really need to read some basic principles of law some time. It is your type of populist rational that leads to the downfall of a republic (civil society based on law).
You don't have to like what he did or vote for him but your mob type mentality is ultimately very self destructive.
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I guess these lawmakers think they can buy a bunch of $20 pee testers from the local drug store and call it good.
They have no idea all the steps required to keep a drug test valid, so that it upholds in a court of law.
I know I had piss checking as a collateral duty in the navy..
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Aerlinthian posted:
suntzukali2 posted:
Bat_Avenger posted:
take his welfare check away!
why not just take his job away as an elected official he shouldn't be doing something as unpopular as dui. I mean come election time he will probably get booted out of office but why should it wait that long?
You really need to read some basic principles of law some time. It is your type of populist rational that leads to the downfall of a republic (civil society based on law).
You don't have to like what he did or vote for him but your mob type mentality is ultimately very self destructive.
well we should just be happy that his post had some logical sense, unlike the start of the thread.
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suntzukali2 posted:
Bat_Avenger posted:
take his welfare check away!
why not just take his job away as an elected official he shouldn't be doing something as unpopular as dui. I mean come election time he will probably get booted out of office but why should it wait that long?
if i have to explain it to you, you are incapable of understanding it.
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would you get fired if you were convicted of a DUI? i would understand if your job consisted of a bus driver or something along that lines..but should not lose his job like most if convicted of a DUI.
in regards to welfare...amen to random drug testing, my tax dollars should not fund someone that can afford drugs.
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would you get fired if you were convicted of a DUI? i would understand if your job consisted of a bus driver or something along that lines..but should not lose his job like most if convicted of a DUI.
in regards to welfare...amen to random drug testing, my tax dollars should not fund someone that can afford drugs.
I would loose my job if I got a DUI. My boss once told me if something like that happens on a weekend don't bother coming in to work on Monday. I don't even drive a vehicle for a living.
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I think some of you might be a tad out-of-touch with reality if you can honestly defend this kind of behavior from a public employee.
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Defend what? Due process or public lynching?
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We give welfare because people need it, not because they "deserve" it. Being a complete drug addict would need more help, not less.
What this gentleman did was completely irrelevant to this question. Some government jobs can be lost due to some types of convictions; for example, my wife works at the DMV and if she were to get her license suspended, she would lose her job, even though her job does not require any type of driving. (They contract out the road tests.) It's considered untoward in her position. IF and ONLY IF they have this type of law in Georgia should this man face any discipline from his job at all, and that would be entirely separate from his voting record.
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I think some of you might be a tad out-of-touch with reality if you can honestly defend this kind of behavior from a public employee.
who is defending him?
it's more of what he did has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with drug testing.
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Test the welfare recipients for drugs, and kick his ass out of office for being a drunk bastard.
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One shouldn't drive drunk.
One shouldn't take welfare, corporate or otherwise, and spend it on illegal drugs.
The two statements are not dependent upon each another.
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what does testing welfare recipients for illegal drug use have to do with drinking alcohol and driving?
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One shouldn't drive drunk.
One shouldn't take welfare, corporate or otherwise, and spend it on illegal drugs.
The two statements are not dependent upon each another.
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They already tried this somewhere, it saved the state something in the lines of $20k, but they spend over $100k administering the test.
it's NOT worth it.
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They already tried this somewhere, it saved the state something in the lines of $20k, but they spend over $100k administering the test.
it's NOT worth it.
It was Florida.
They gave applicants several months to comply and the first batch of volunteers had 98% pass.
Because obviously so many of them who were abusing it would be lining up to do it 
Welfare is a terrible program anyway.
I support drug testing, but honestly if we are going to spend the money to do that we may as well spend that same money
on making it a reimbursement system instead of a cash payment system.
Can't spend the money on illegal drugs or alcohol if you have to show receipts for every single penny of the governments money.
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No big deal, he was just drinking. It wasn't like he was killing himself and children by smoking the reefer
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They already tried this somewhere, it saved the state something in the lines of $20k, but they spend over $100k administering the test.
it's NOT worth it.
If we just stopped having the government give people welfare, it would save 100% of it.
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Chogram posted:
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They already tried this somewhere, it saved the state something in the lines of $20k, but they spend over $100k administering the test.
it's NOT worth it.
It was Florida.
Enough said.
I don;t have a real issue with the concept but it should be applied to corporate welfare recipients as well. If not, drop it.
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Atleast he didn't kill anyone like Massachusetts Democrat Ted Kennedy did.
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Imperfect people are imperfect.
Rho
Right, but it does become an issue when those imperfect people try to legislate against other imperfect people. 
FWIW I support drug testing welfare recipients. Just saying.
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Imperfect people are imperfect.
Rho
Right, but it does become an issue when those imperfect people try to legislate against other imperfect people.
FWIW I support drug testing welfare recipients. Just saying.
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Atleast he didn't kill anyone like Massachusetts Democrat Ted Kennedy did.
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They already tried this somewhere, it saved the state something in the lines of $20k, but they spend over $100k administering the test.
it's NOT worth it.
If we just stopped having the government give people welfare, it would save 100% of it.
Rho
Yeah, kill those poor people! (At least the non-Republican, non-Christian, non-white ones.)
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Imperfect people are imperfect.
Rho
Right, but it does become an issue when those imperfect people try to legislate against other imperfect people.
No, no it doesn't.
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