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I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation where someone deserved killing but didn't deserve having their corpse pissed on.
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If you do it dont take pictures of the act
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I'm not surprised you think that Paul, you are a harbinger of Americas moral decay.
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Right, because pissing on corpses is a big deal but killing people isn't.
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I come from the American Indian school where I honor the enemy I kill, even while I am doing everything to kill him and I may scalp him. However, I do not judge these men for their behavior. Pull the trigger or piss is just irony. Theirs was socio-cultural herd inculcated behavior. In general, it is best to not place yourself in a kill or be killed situation.
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Considering that you are part of the moral decay it would be otiose of me to try and explain the difference.
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I come from the American Indian school where I honor the enemy I kill, even while I am doing everything to kill him and I may scalp him. However, I do not judge these men for their behavior. Pull the trigger or piss is just irony. Theirs was socio-cultural herd inculcated behavior. In general, it is best to not place yourself in a kill or be killed situation.
Native Americans believed how you died would be how you were in the afterlife. Therefore they mutilated their enemies on death so that they would be that way for eternity
They also did horrific tortures to their captured enemies
Its no surprise we nearly wiped them out
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Considering that you are part of the moral decay it would be otiose of me to try and explain the difference.
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I agree that Paul is personally responsible for the decline of America
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Maybe my American Indian analogy was a little over or off the top.  Still I would rather follow a Geronimo than a blood and guts general. That may be a little too strong a statement too. but you know what I mean.
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It was brutal how they fought and they would do this to settlers on their land. I can easily believe why people of the time hated and feared them. I believe that if you fight like they did the response from Americans is the same the Japanese got in WW2, which was exterminate them and show them no mercy in war.
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It was brutal how they fought and they would do this to settlers on their land. I can easily believe why people of the time hated and feared them. I believe that if you fight like they did the response from Americans is the same the Japanese got in WW2, which was exterminate them and show them no mercy in war.
How did we treat them, back in the day?
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We treated them poorly but the way they fought us made us loath them and treat them like animals when we fought them in wars.
They mutilated our bodies, tortured prisoners, and slaughtered dirt farm peasant settlers.
They are lucky they werent totally genocided.
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Jesus Christ read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee. The atrocities, as usual, are on both sides.
I would have personally scalped Custer and pissed on him.
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Killing someone may be necessary. Urinating on them isn't ever.
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In the US if you mutilate a body after death its a crime. This is very close to that.
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We are supposed to be better than them.
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Killing someone may be necessary. Urinating on them isn't ever.
No kidding. It isn't about them. It's what it says about you.
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This behavior shows something broken in obamas leadership.
Under bush they were burning piles of corpses, not even giving families of these people an opportunity to bury their dead.
Now we have them on tape peeing on the corpses.
I dont get it. Our troops have invaded their land, we have no business there but these stupid shit brain kids tht wont amount to anything when they come back home are doing this.
Any hard work weve done as far as cementing goodwill with the people from schools, to healthcare, to special ops training them just took a nose dive bcause the other side just got a lot more fuel for their propaganda.
These idiot kids just cost the US taxpayer a 100 billion+ dollars.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
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Killing someone may be necessary. Urinating on them isn't ever.
No kidding. It isn't about them. It's what it says about you.
It absolutely amazes me how many people don't get that. You can't swim in slime without getting it on you.
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This behavior shows something broken in obamas leadership.
Actually that comment shows there is something broken in your logic-ship. I'm all for holding officers to account but following this to the White House is simply stupid. You're reaching so far your arm will snap.
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I was making fun of how people blamed bush for abu ghatib or corpse burning but the same liberals wont blame obama.
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Blaming either president is stupid.
The responsibility rests solely on the soldier(s).
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If democrats blamed Bush then its only fair that Obama gets blamed for this
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I was making fun of how people blamed bush for abu ghatib or corpse burning but the same liberals wont blame obama.
If you can't see the difference between officially sanctioned torture and random urination you are not nearly as smart as you appear.
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Abu gharib was not official, neither was corpse burning.
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You guys are acting like our soldiers are robots. Almost every person in this thread wanted to send soldiers to Afghanistan. Almost everyone in this thread is kind of over it and doesn't want soldiers in Afghanistan because they no longer care about killing them. Only the soldiers you sent there still have to kill them and have been killing them as you've grown bored of the process through countless episodes of survivor, and football seasons.
So how should those soldiers feel about killing the people that you originally wanted them to kill but now are too bored to worry about? Should they kill them but realize it's unjust? It's necessary to kill some people. but not these people. Yet we sent them over there to do it and ordered them to do it. now you can't even face a very minor distasteful reality resulting form your stupidity.
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Wrong! We sent them there to topple the taliban and primarily to bring bin laden to justice.
They toppled the taliban quite quickly and recently supposedly killed bin laden.
We also expected them to create goodwill with the afghani people by giving women more rights and increasing the general socio economic status of the people ;we poured hundreds of billions of dollars, driopped pallets of cash and supplies).
We didnt send them there to kill kill and kill.
We screwed up though and have made things worse and increased islamic acts of violenc.
The arab spring too is an islamic rise where secular leaders are being toppled.
So none of this is stuff we wanted.
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wanted? WTF cares about wanted?
Did we send them there? Have you demanded that they come back? Did you demand that they only kill a few hundred people then come home? I'm not sure you understand what happens when you invade another country, but it usually involves killing a lot of them.
Either through lack of political will, or because you are retards who couldn't predict a pretty obvious outcome you caused this. not only the pissing, but the raping, and the killing.
If you give an order to one hundred people and you know that every hundred people that do that thing two of them will be destroyed psychologically do you then look down your nose at the two for being weak? What was the cause of their disorder?
If you guys weren't such pussies you'd look in the mirror with all this indignation, but you are pussies. That's why you were fine with sending boys to kill in your place and that's why you're fine looking down your nose at them now, because reality is not compatible with your self image, so you ignore it.
What were you like when you were 18? Morals solid? Humanity sound? Choices mature? no more developing of who you were as a person?
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We sent them there to get bin laden, quit being so stupid. It took a long time to find bin laden.
I never killed someone when i was 18, i dont abuse animals.. I know how to behave. Most soldiers dont do this kind of thing so why make excuses?
These fools are trained and to be completely frank they have it easy. Try thinking about the little children growing up in afganistan and how affected living in a war torn place is. These kids on our end have it so easy. I know people thatgrew up with bombs in their backyard from when israel and lebanon had a war.. They are not nuts and trust me thats much worse to deal with when youre 6 and are hearing bombs drop.
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They have it easy?
Obviously you can't even face reality when I slap you with it. Do you remember what you were like when you were 18? Are you the same person now? Obviously not, so a lot happened between 18 and now that made you who you were. What if a lot of that was killing people who really didn't deserve it because I told you to?
WTF do you think "sending them there to kill bin laden" entailed? I mean do you honestly think we send thousands of people over to kill one guy? You think that's their whole mission? "Don't kill anyone else guys." How shocked were you when the afghani casualties hit the thousands? Were you confused to hear that so many people in afghanistan were named osama bin laden?
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Abu gharib was not official, neither was corpse burning.
Oh, so they didn't try any officers or find that the directives for torture came from above?
Let me clear that up for you. Yes, they did.
Add that to the the fact that Bush openly tried to say that torture was constitutional and I would think a man of your intelligence would be able to do the math.
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Anything worth killing is worth pissing on?
My food is worth killing, not sure how I feel about taking a leak on it afterwards though
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I WOULD PISS ON THE OUTPOST AFTER I KILLED IT
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Obviously you can't even face reality when I slap you with it. Do you remember what you were like when you were 18? Are you the same person now? Obviously not, so a lot happened between 18 and now that made you who you were. What if a lot of that was killing people who really didn't deserve it because I told you to?
I don't really see where you're going with this. Yes, sending 18 year olds to go kill people is not a very good thing to do, especially when we don't have a very good reason besides Tych's petty "vengeance," which he at least is honest about, unlike most of the posers. But does that mean them pissong on people you killed is also ok?
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We're Americans. We should be able to pee on anyone we'd like and they should thank us for it! We have magic pee!
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I don't want to kill anyone. If someone acted badly enough that they could make me want to kill them, they deserve having their corpse pissed on.
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It isn't about them. It doesn't surprise me you still don't get it. 
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Even if you dont kill them there are some people who should be pissed on
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Even if you dont kill them there are some people who should be pissed on
I can recommend some German websites for you if you'd like.
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Obviously you can't even face reality when I slap you with it. Do you remember what you were like when you were 18? Are you the same person now? Obviously not, so a lot happened between 18 and now that made you who you were. What if a lot of that was killing people who really didn't deserve it because I told you to?
I don't really see where you're going with this. Yes, sending 18 year olds to go kill people is not a very good thing to do, especially when we don't have a very good reason besides Tych's petty "vengeance," which he at least is honest about, unlike most of the posers. But does that mean them pissong on people you killed is also ok?
Not ok but foreseeable. I don't get all indignant when I take an action with a foreseeable negative outcome, and then that foreseeable negative outcome comes into play. but then again I'm neither a pussy nor a retard.
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tenkly posted:
Anything worth killing is worth pissing on?
My food is worth killing, not sure how I feel about taking a leak on it afterwards though
Don't worry, you're waiter took care of it for you.
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did anyone stop to think that maybe the talibans had be stung by jellyfish?
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 See we were doing them a favor and this is the thanks we get??
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Not a single person here in the "we're better than that" crowd have served in a combat zone.
Some of our boys over there on on their 2nd or 3rd tour.
You ladies can't even take a trollish thread without melting down, let alone having someone try to kill you and your mates for a couple years day on end.
We've pissed on the whole country, what's a few corpses more?
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GrilledCheez posted:
Not ok but foreseeable.
Most crimes are not ok but forseeable.
If the point is sending 18 year olds to the other side of the world to kill people is bad policy which is bound to lead to bad results, I'm with you there. Beyond that, I still don't really see where you're going.
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Moe_Nox posted:
Not a single person here in the "we're better than that" crowd have served in a combat zone.
Some of our boys over there on on their 2nd or 3rd tour.
You ladies can't even take a trollish thread without melting down, let alone having someone try to kill you and your mates for a couple years day on end.
We've pissed on the whole country, what's a few corpses more?
So wait...we are not supposed to be better than that? We don't really believe in freedom and dignity for all? It's not really about hearts and minds, we just hate brown people?
I see where you're coming from. I hope you're wrong.
And I feel sorry for you that you do not think we are better than terrorists. That's kind of sad. I have to ask though...........
Why do you hate America? 
But seriously...you just killed a guy, the ultimate put down. Do you think pissing on him makes any sense? Shouldn't you piss on him BEFORE you kill him? Who are you trying to impress, yourself?
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American Exceptionalism was/is a fairy tale.
We are not better than anyone else, and we never were.
We were more fortunate, but we squandered a lot of the advantages we had.
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We treated them poorly but the way they fought us made us loath them and treat them like animals when we fought them in wars.
They mutilated our bodies, tortured prisoners, and slaughtered dirt farm peasant settlers.
They are lucky they werent totally genocided.
Poorly? It was a genocide, and you think the valiant american soldiers did not torture, rape and murder children?
ignorance..
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I WOULD PISS ON THE OUTPOST AFTER I KILLED IT
There's probably more truth to that than we know.
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smellymotor posted:
did anyone stop to think that maybe the talibans had be stung by jellyfish?
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