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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/13/false_flag?tryagain
A series of CIA memos describes how Israeli Mossad agents posed as American spies to recruit members of the terrorist organization Jundallah to fight their covert war against Iran.
"It's amazing what the Israelis thought they could get away with," the intelligence officer said. "Their recruitment activities were nearly in the open. They apparently didn't give a damn what we thought."
Interviews with six currently serving or recently retired intelligence officers over the last 18 months have helped to fill in the blanks of the Israeli false-flag operation. In addition to the two currently serving U.S. intelligence officers, the existence of the Israeli false-flag operation was confirmed to me by four retired intelligence officers who have served in the CIA or have monitored Israeli intelligence operations from senior positions inside the U.S. government.
What has become crystal clear, however, is the level of anger among senior intelligence officials about Israel's actions. "This was stupid and dangerous," the intelligence official who first told me about the operation said. "Israel is supposed to be working with us, not against us. If they want to shed blood, it would help a lot if it was their blood and not ours. You know, they're supposed to be a strategic asset. Well, guess what? There are a lot of people now, important people, who just don't think that's true."
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just because a nation are our allies doesn't mean that every thing they do has to be done with our approval or even in our interest. To fix any problem you need to understand things.
we have to be friends with Israel because reality is its the only country over there worth being on good terms with. Being friends with that nation makes the rest of the Arab nations hate us more. They would still hate us because ultimately we are not Muslim. They still have animosity towards the west for the crusades. Things change slow over there.
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America is held hostage to a hyper Zionist establishment in government, media and finance. Good luck getting any real traction in the MSM to talk about this stuff at a level that genuinely raises the public consciousness.
A little trip down memory lane back when there was enough chaos during the following days of 9/11 to get a bit of real reporting.
http://youtu.be/LJyCAZGRpf8
And another reminder of Israeli's true valuation of the U.S.A.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=u.s.s+liberty%2C+long
And here: Alan Sabrosky Interview (The beginning of the interview has all of his career credits that give his opinion weight on the subject)
And here:
http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/articles/article0041462.html
Ex-CIA officer Philip Giraldi: Israel spies the most on the US?
http://www.terminalx.org/2011/06/ex-cia-officer-philip-giraldi-israel.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJvhI7sEjA0
And it goes on and on and on.
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I think Israel is playing a dangerous game here. If they lose U.S. diplomatic backing (and possibly military backing), do they really think they could last long against a concerted Middle East effort to topple them?
When you have 5-6 neighborhood bullies staring you down, you shouldn't say to your big brother standing behind you "go home, I got this."
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America is held hostage to a hyper Zionist establishment in government, media and finance. Good luck getting any real traction in the MSM to talk about this stuff at a level that genuinely raises the public consciousness.
Perhaps if you stopped using idiotic buzzwords, you'd stop driving people away with your nonsense. I take umbrage with our pro-Israel-at-any-cost foreign policy, but I manage to have whole conversations about it without using the word "Zionist." I instead refer people to the not too long ago incident where they SHOT UNARMED AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO WERE ON A HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN THE F*CKING HEAD, a sentiment that doesn't require an invented, incendiary term to describe it.
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Arc_DT posted:
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America is held hostage to a hyper Zionist establishment in government, media and finance. Good luck getting any real traction in the MSM to talk about this stuff at a level that genuinely raises the public consciousness.
Perhaps if you stopped using idiotic buzzwords, you'd stop driving people away with your nonsense. I take umbrage with our pro-Israel-at-any-cost foreign policy, but I manage to have whole conversations about it without using the word "Zionist." I instead refer people to the not too long ago incident where they SHOT UNARMED AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO WERE ON A HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN THE F*CKING HEAD, a sentiment that doesn't require an invented, incendiary term to describe it.
You mean umbridge? as in Professor Umbridge? Professor Dolores Umbridge?
Why would you label yourself as an antagonist against an antagonist. That doesn't mean you're a protagonist.
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You are free to use code words if you want. I will call it what it is.
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You are free to use code words if you want. I will call it what it is.
Bluntly saying your opinion = code words
Using old labels said in almost every post about anything = calling it what it is.
I prefer code words.
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Wasn't talking to you Ticky.
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NeoKarnak posted:
I think Israel is playing a dangerous game here. If they lose U.S. diplomatic backing (and possibly military backing), do they really think they could last long against a concerted Middle East effort to topple them?
When you have 5-6 neighborhood bullies staring you down, you shouldn't say to your big brother standing behind you "go home, I got this."
We aren't the only ones who are real nice trade buddies with Israel.... Russia really doesn't advertise it much, but a good portion of their new technology stuff comes from Israel.
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a hyper Zionist establishment
Oh man, you never stop getting worse do you.
HYPER ZIONISTS!
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THEY BLEW UP TOWER 7 TO HIDE THE REPORTS OF THE JEWISH SPIES!
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Ah-Schoo posted:
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a hyper Zionist establishment
Oh man, you never stop getting worse do you.
HYPER ZIONISTS!
Makes me think of Spaceballs for some reason. On the speed chart - warp speed, Hyper Zionist speed.
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TickyAtack posted:
Arc_DT posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
America is held hostage to a hyper Zionist establishment in government, media and finance. Good luck getting any real traction in the MSM to talk about this stuff at a level that genuinely raises the public consciousness.
Perhaps if you stopped using idiotic buzzwords, you'd stop driving people away with your nonsense. I take umbrage with our pro-Israel-at-any-cost foreign policy, but I manage to have whole conversations about it without using the word "Zionist." I instead refer people to the not too long ago incident where they SHOT UNARMED AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO WERE ON A HUMANITARIAN MISSION IN THE F*CKING HEAD, a sentiment that doesn't require an invented, incendiary term to describe it.
You mean umbridge? as in Professor Umbridge? Professor Dolores Umbridge?
Why would you label yourself as an antagonist against an antagonist. That doesn't mean you're a protagonist.
Don't they teach English to you snot-nosed brats these days?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/umbrage
umbrage
[uhm-brij] Origin
um·brage
/'?mbr?d?/ Show Spelled[uhm-brij] Show IPA
noun
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offense; annoyance; displeasure: to feel umbrage at a social snub; to give umbrage to someone; to take umbrage at someone's rudeness.
And sometimes, one isn't a protagonist. Learn some nuance, too.
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You are free to use code words if you want. I will call it what it is.
Which part of my statement was a "code word?"
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Told that Israeli's what is our friend?
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lol, this guy up there. Can't have conversations with that level of crazy. Moving on.
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so we can be racist here as long as its the dirty jews that we hate on, am I getting that right?
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Arc_DT posted:
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You are free to use code words if you want. I will call it what it is.
Which part of my statement was a "code word?"
when you don't use trendy meme-like words you are using codewords. please put your dictionary down and start watching more paranoid youtube videos.
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so we can be racist here as long as its the dirty jews that we hate on, am I getting that right?
You have to call them Zionists though.
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LOL.
re: The first Youtube video posted in that list of nonsense above. The author, Histroika. Front and center on his page is a WTC conspiracy video.
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Mforce you don't have an open mind. You need to be informed and educated. Yup.
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ISRAELIS!  Not possessive in that context. 
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Israel should be left to fend for itself. Anybody who disagrees is an idiot or should volunteer their money or time to pay for their defense.
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Ah-Schoo posted:
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a hyper Zionist establishment
Oh man, you never stop getting worse do you.
HYPER ZIONISTS!
If it wasn't for the mealy mouthed citizens of the USA, MY PEOPLE would take care of the mideast problem.
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Didn't Israel kick the sh*t out of every single muslim country at the same time in a 6 minute war?
They don't need us.
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Hyperimiator posted:
Ah-Schoo posted:
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a hyper Zionist establishment
Oh man, you never stop getting worse do you.
HYPER ZIONISTS!
If it wasn't for the mealy mouthed citizens of the USA, MY PEOPLE would take care of the mideast problem.
Haha!
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