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http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/sns-rt-us-dr-pepper-texastre80d00l-20120113,0,747313.story
They will still sell real-sugar Dr. Pepper but only in Texas. Why they are so hell-bent on shutting down national retail of real-sugar Dr. Pepper boggles my mind. I know I and millions of other customers would happily pay another 10 cents a can for the real thing instead of corn sludge.
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from what they said on the radio yesterday, they broke the contract when they tried to sell the stuff on the internet.
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And did the world a service by breaking the contract.
Their stuff is far superior to the corn sludge filled stuff the normal Dr. Pepper company sells. Why Dr. Pepper won't just start selling a real-sugar line themselves boggles my mind. It would only cost them a few cents more per can and they could mark it up double whatever their cost is and come out making MORE money.
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yep
ive been buying HEB brand at central market that is sugar based, not corn syrup. i prefer them also.
a coke sub and a dr p sub.
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heh, this is one of my pet peeves also. I pretty much hate soda these days because of corn syrup.
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Corn syrup Coke tastes better than Coke with sugar. I don't drink Dr. Ass so I wouldn't know about that.
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AzureTyger posted:
Corn syrup Coke tastes better than Coke with sugar.
You live in Ohio. Opinion denied.
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Never been a fan of Dr. Pepper, but then I am not a huge fan of soda in general.
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When I drank soda I preferred the stuff from oversea
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Sadly corn syrup is here to stay.
The novelty drinks will be around to reminisce but the business has moved forward and without changes in raw materials/movement costs you will not see much more than this.
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I like Dr Pepper. When I drink pop, which is rarely, its one of the pops I drink. It has an interesting hard to describe taste I think
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Bobvillas posted:
Sadly corn syrup is here to stay.
The novelty drinks will be around to reminisce but the business has moved forward and without changes in raw materials/movement costs you will not see much more than this.
It's only cheaper because we pay billions to the corn lobby ever year.
Even so, using real sugar would cost less than 5 cents more per can. I would happily pay double that for real sugar.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
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Sadly corn syrup is here to stay.
The novelty drinks will be around to reminisce but the business has moved forward and without changes in raw materials/movement costs you will not see much more than this.
It's only cheaper because we pay billions to the corn lobby ever year.
Even so, using real sugar would cost less than 5 cents more per can. I would happily pay double that for real sugar.
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5 cents seems like a large increase.
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Sadly in the cost analysis you are in the minority and as such cannot offset said costs.
I love the old cold glass bottles with real sugar. It is a shame. Vacation areas will be the few places you will be able to consistently find it.
The numbers have been run. We are currently in the process of seeing the "Throwback" 20oz being removed from the market as well.
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Bobvillas posted:
Sadly in the cost analysis you are in the minority and as such cannot offset said costs.
I'm not suggesting they discontinue using corn sludge entirely (although I wish they would).
But surely if there's enough people out there to support diet caffeine free cherry vanilla dr. pepper there are enough people out there to support real sugar dr. pepper even if they raise the price by a dollar a 12 pack.
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American Corporations don't succeed because of superior products, they succeed by eliminating variety...
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There are more variables in this situation.
~The profit margin on soda in general is horrible. Soda companies in today's market make their money on their auxiliary products. (ie. Gatorade, Powerade, Amp, Rockstar, Starbucks Frappucino's, Aquafina etc..) - Another reason Dr. Pepper is struggling and looking for ways to offset costs. They do not have a strong portfolio.
~Typically your local grocery chain is taking very little profit and at times a loss when they run ads on soda. (especially during the holidays)
~Compact this with trying to raise the price on a singular item and disseminate the reason in a way that the average consumer understands is very problematic.
~The flavoring for specific varieties is relatively cheap in comparison and is not needed in bulk the same way sugar is. If you look at the back of a can you will see that the actual flavor is typically the last or close to last ingredient on the list and corn syrup or sugar is second behind water.
~In addition the flavors are actually handled by regional sales managers that decide what specific offsets they feel will do well in the market. Because of their low cost they are handled on a regional level.
Much more goes into it, but for the consumer this is the end result.
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American Corporations don't succeed because of superior products, they succeed by eliminating variety...
Actually in soda, the reverse is true.
The market is static at this point. There are new Mt Dew flavors coming out almost weekly. There are no new customers. The name of the game is moving the marker from their side of the table to yours.
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They say people are drinking less pop now. Could be for health reasons.
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Economic pressure.
A year ago a 12 pack was floating around $3. Today it is just under $5.
Soda is not a necessity.
If it was cheap all those health conscious people would be right back on the dole.
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It is pop. Pop.
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I am on a first name basis with my Soda Pop.
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Part of the agreement was they'd continue to sell real-sugar Dr. Pepper over most of Texas.
If Texans will pay the extra money, surely the rest of the country will too.
Hell, I used to pay 50 dollars of shipping on 200 cans to get Dublin Dr. Pepper shipped across the country. And I certainly wasn't alone.
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It is pop. Pop.
It's soda. Quit being ridiculous.
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heh, this is one of my pet peeves also. I pretty much hate soda these days because of corn syrup.
i hate it when we have the same opinions on things. 
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Akza posted:
__Bonk__ posted:
It is pop. Pop.
It's soda. Quit being ridiculous.
coke ;P
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I had dr pepper the other day for the first time in about 12 years. I quickly remembered why I hadn't had it in 12 years. Tastes like ass
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I don't drink soda, haven't in years. I tried a Mt. Dew recently.....and almost threw up. People drink this shit because they want to? WTF? Like badly flavored battery acid.
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Yep I dont like the taste of pop at all anymore either. I used to love Mountain Dew too and now it tastes really bad to me.
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Corn syrup Coke tastes better than Coke with sugar. I don't drink Dr. Ass so I wouldn't know about that.
Truth.
All the Coke out here in Denmark is made with real sugar and it's too damn sweet it makes me  to drink it.
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It's only cheaper because we pay billions to the corn lobby ever year.
Not only that; the tariff on sugar is also a factor. It is vital to protect the Florida sugar cane industry from foreign competition you know.
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It is not surprising that you all like it in the can.
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It is not surprising that you all like it in the can.
I see what you did there.
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