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We'll see how the GOP responds to this...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/13/obama-seeks-consolidation-authority-to-merge-agencies/
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He is making impossible for the GOP to say no anymore.
By adopting GOP tenements/ideas, right before the election.
That is a very smart move, use their ideas and words against them.
If they say no they look like clowns in a election year.
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Anyone with half a brain and paying only a fraction of attention to the last two years already knows the GOP look like fat cat two faced buffoons. So this would not change anything.
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3 years to come up with 1 thing to do to shrink government by maybe 1,000 positions?
When do I get to vote for this demi-god?
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Anyone with half a brain and paying only a fraction of attention to the last two years already knows the GOP look like fat cat two faced buffoons. So this would not change anything.
you would be surprised to how many people dont remember current events.
this is a right now whats happening society.
want a example Newt Gingrich's little run, people had forgotten about his history until it was dug up.
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I do know. Hence my comment.
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3 years to come up with 1 thing to do to shrink government by maybe 1,000 positions?
When do I get to vote for this demi-god?
lmao just a 1000 positions, there is no department/agency of the gov that is just a 1,000 positions.
add another zero or two and you might be on to something.
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oh look! its almost time for reelection and NOW he figures out a way to shrink government which, coincidentally is what the people have been screaming about for at least the last year
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oh look! its almost time for reelection and NOW he figures out a way to shrink government which, coincidentally is what the people have been screaming about for at least the last year
thats called strategic thinking.
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we all know he has no interest in shrinking government, his track record and political philosophy makes that obvious. its crystal clear that this is simply a political move of him sacrificing a chicken to walk away with the cow. whenever politicians do this kind of thing it pisses me off because they're essentially trying to make fools out of all of us and they think we're all stupid enough that we don't understand what they're doing. if you can't hold support based on your true ideals then you don't belong there, don't screw around with transparent political maneuverings that insults the intelligence of your constituents.
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GrimTempest posted:
we all know he has no interest in shrinking government, his track record and political philosophy makes that obvious. its crystal clear that this is simply a political move of him sacrificing a chicken to walk away with the cow. whenever politicians do this kind of thing it pisses me off because they're essentially trying to make fools out of all of us and they think we're all stupid enough that we don't understand what they're doing. if you can't hold support based on your true ideals then you don't belong there, don't screw around with transparent political maneuverings that insults the intelligence of your constituents.
The thing with this arguement is that neither does anyone running from the GOP.
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What the hell are you guys smoking?
There are less people employed by the federal government now....than there were when Reagan left office. Here is how it went....
Carter DECREASED the number of federal employees.
Reagan INCREASED the number of federal employees.
Bush Sr INCREASED the number of federal employees.
Clinton DECREASED the number of federal employees.
Bush Jr INCREASED the number of federal employees.
Obama DECREASED the number of federal employees.
HOLY CARP!!!
For the past 40 years,
Every Democratic administration decreased the number of federal employees...including Obama.
Every Republican administration increased the number of federal employees...including Saint Reagan.
I'll never understand how people are so wrong about basic facts and reality. It's fricken easy to check. '
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I'll never understand how people are so wrong about basic facts and reality. It's fricken easy to check. '
Voluntary stupid and narrow minded.
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By getting us out of Iraq and Afghanistan he's done more to shrink government than any recent Pres. Obama is no demi-god but the Republicans may have underestimated him. Their strategy was simple. He's elected but the economy is crap. Obstruct, obstruct obstruct. Back-up plan is to obstruct. Then, when the mess we created doesn't get fixed the people will flock to us.
At some point Obama may have tossed aside the idealism in favor of political savvy.
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Cuttlery posted:
GrimTempest posted:
we all know he has no interest in shrinking government, his track record and political philosophy makes that obvious. its crystal clear that this is simply a political move of him sacrificing a chicken to walk away with the cow. whenever politicians do this kind of thing it pisses me off because they're essentially trying to make fools out of all of us and they think we're all stupid enough that we don't understand what they're doing. if you can't hold support based on your true ideals then you don't belong there, don't screw around with transparent political maneuverings that insults the intelligence of your constituents.
The thing with this arguement is that neither does anyone running from the GOP.
aware of that. both sides are assholes.
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certain things I stand with him and other subjects I dont stand with him on.
but on the other hand I look at the hand he was dealt when he took office and I can empathize with that because I have drawn some bad hands in life even at a winning table.
plus the only word the GOP knows how to say is NO.
I mean that is just getting old and stale and no once cares just stop being obstructionists and work together for crying out loud.
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SQAAAAAK PARTY OF NO SQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK PARTY OF NO!!
LOL @ Demokeets.
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Yes, the national debt is exploding because this administration is shrinking government.
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LOL he has no credibility with regards to this topic. Troll 3/10.
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I'm not a fan and I don't believe that he is very sincere about this.
However,
It is a politically brilliant move. It would be better in the summer but by then, the republicans will have been hammering him about government size and it would have been seen as a reaction. This way, it can be positioned as if he thought it up all on his own.
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with a deficit in the 10s of trillions, Barry is going to save $3 billion over 10 years and allow for long-term attrition to reduce the headcount
in other words, he is blowing smoke and hoping the sheep will inhale
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Second_Chance posted:
Sourcing the WhiteHouse.gov on how fiscally responsible this administation is, is like me sourcing KKK.com on how blacks are genetically inferior.
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vn_last_man-mt posted:
LOL he has no credibility with regards to this topic. Troll 3/10.
How so? He has already reduced the number of federal employees. And while I tend to agree on some levels that this is just a WH troll, the alternatives arent offering us anything thats not that either...
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Another dumb politics thread where libs and repubs blow diarrhea from their mouths at one another.
politics in America LOLOLOL
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If the Republican'ts think Obama is not serious they should pass the legislation and call his bluff. I think their real fear is Obama might succeed.
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If the Republican'ts think Obama is not serious they should pass the legislation and call his bluff. I think their real fear is Obama might succeed.
The Senate is free to pass the Ryan budget any day it wants.
I think the OP's thread title contains the real truth. "Obama seeking powers".
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anyone know where these government jobs were cut from?
didn't a new agency just get fired up?
i know there was a job freeze and all, but it was completely bogus within the Department of Justice.
even in the Bureau of Prisons, we have had a lot of jobs consolidated and/or eliminated.
problem is, those positions were merely renamed...same people, same pay, same job functions, just a different title.
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I'm not a fan and I don't believe that he is very sincere about this.
However,
It is a politically brilliant move. It would be better in the summer but by then, the republicans will have been hammering him about government size and it would have been seen as a reaction. This way, it can be positioned as if he thought it up all on his own.
Rho
Trouble is he brought it up during his State of the Union Address a year ago.
All of his legislation to bring jobs back has been blocked by the Republicans as well.
Why do Republicans hate America, wait that isn't it, they just love profits and bonuses for the top elites more than the working man.
It well past time we do something about them, and Obama is calling upon you to mute these obstructionist bastages.
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Rhodoman posted:
Kanga_Roo posted:
If the Republican'ts think Obama is not serious they should pass the legislation and call his bluff. I think their real fear is Obama might succeed.
The Senate is free to pass the Ryan budget any day it wants.
I think the OP's thread title contains the real truth. "Obama seeking powers".
Rho
Nice deflection.
Call his bluff if that's what they think it is
Or talk about other legislation
Either way, own your choices
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Awwwwwww ****.
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aware of that. both sides are assholes.
this has the ring of truth
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He is trying to save 3 billion dollars over 10 years. 3 billion is an utter drop in the bucket.
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He is trying to save 3 billion dollars over 10 years. 3 billion is an utter drop in the bucket.
I think it was stated 3 billion per year. I could be wrong though.
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Kriegprojekt posted:
silvadel2 posted:
He is trying to save 3 billion dollars over 10 years. 3 billion is an utter drop in the bucket.
I think it was stated 3 billion per year. I could be wrong though.
So, 10 drops in a bucket . . .
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the intelligent people will see this for what it is.
Don't you start posting like me, now.
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Yeah like they did the creation of the TSA,
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i remember when the BoP got the Consolidated Staffing Unit...basically a national Human Resources department.
LOTS of people work there, and immediately it cut most local HR's down to 3 people.
we relocated (read as created new jobs) 6 staff, 3 remained.
our local department is now up to 12...THREE more than when their job functions were drastically reduced and consolidated.
THAT is government consolidation for you!
and i wonder how much funny math was used with that 3 billion...i know the savings from freezing government pay was found to be faulty.
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Congress will never give it to him. My only question is, since he knows this, why not promise the world?
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throw them in the ocean, it works for other dicks.
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Maybe he is shrinking the size for a white man again. 
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Rhodoman posted:
Kriegprojekt posted:
silvadel2 posted:
He is trying to save 3 billion dollars over 10 years. 3 billion is an utter drop in the bucket.
I think it was stated 3 billion per year. I could be wrong though.
So, 10 drops in a bucket . . .
Rho
While Republicans have spent the past few years complaining about things like NPR, the arts, etc. Also drops in the bucket.
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Rhodoman posted:
Bat_Avenger posted:
the intelligent people will see this for what it is.
Don't you start posting like me, now.
Rho
this should tell you something about how you post.
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i find it funny that some nubs in this thread think the "size of the govt" has anything to do with how many employees the govt has
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Walker_ID posted:
i find it funny that some nubs in this thread think the "size of the govt" has anything to do with how many employees the govt has
do you include the administration too?
they are claiming reducing jobs as part of this consolidation.
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Bat_Avenger posted:
Rhodoman posted:
the intelligent people will see this for what it is.
Don't you start posting like me, now.
Bat_Avenger
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-Abysmal- posted:
Walker_ID posted:
i find it funny that some nubs in this thread think the "size of the govt" has anything to do with how many employees the govt has
do you include the administration too?
they are claiming reducing jobs as part of this consolidation.
use your powers of deduction and see if you can't answer that question on your own
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If he's serious about shrinking the size of the government, than he can start with repealing ubamacare.
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combat_mage_sc posted:
If he's serious about shrinking the size of the government, than he can start with repealing ubamacare.
Or booting people like you off Welfare. Either works for me.
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-Mithan- posted:
combat_mage_sc posted:
If he's serious about shrinking the size of the government, than he can start with repealing ubamacare.
Or booting people like you off Welfare. Either works for me.
I'm not canadian, i dont get welfare.
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-Mithan- posted:
combat_mage_sc posted:
If he's serious about shrinking the size of the government, than he can start with repealing ubamacare.
Or booting people like you off Welfare. Either works for me.
he'd never boot people off Welfare...his family members would suffer.
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-Abysmal- posted:
-Mithan- posted:
combat_mage_sc posted:
If he's serious about shrinking the size of the government, than he can start with repealing ubamacare.
Or booting people like you off Welfare. Either works for me.
he'd never boot people off Welfare...his family members would suffer.
His voter base would be SOL.
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obama needs to go away
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Mangler_SC posted:
obama needs to go away
The Republicons seem intent upon re-electing him so you better adjust.
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