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Be ticketed and told if they cannot do at least the speed limit they must stop using the highway as they are causing traffic problems?
If no, why not?
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I actually dont care so much about that as I do this. When I am bombing up the left hand lane and your slow ass is in front of me you should be thrown in jail if you dont move to the right lane. I do not at all understand why people drive like old people in the left hand lane.
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Most definitely that also
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I actually dont care so much about that as I do this. When I am bombing up the left hand lane and your slow ass is in front of me you should be thrown in jail if you dont move to the right lane. I do not at all understand why people drive like old people in the left hand lane.
this. if your going to do 40 in a 75 get the f**k over. don't drive in the passing lane like its your own little world and hold up traffic. anyone going under the speed limit in the left lane that doesn't get over to let traffic by should be ticketed. they're more of a hazard than the people speeding.
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Doesn't that defeat the purpose of calling it a speed LIMIT?
Interstates and other divided access roads have minimum allowable speeds, which are ticket-able if not maintaining under normal driving conditions. But even then, they are usually well below the posted speed limit.
Here in flyover country, that would never fly...farm machinery uses the highways.
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Only if they are in the left (passing) lane. As long as they are in the right lane and are maintaining the minimum required speed for the highway they have every right to be there. If conditions are ideal and they are not maintaining the minimum speed, then they should be ticketed no matter what lane they are in.
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No, people should not be ticketed for driving below the speed limit AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT INTENTIONALLY BLOCKING TRAFFIC. They should however be required to put on their 4-ways if they're going 10mph or more below the speed limit imo.
Better question:
If it's illegal to pass on the right, and it's illegal to drive for prolonged periods in the left lane (on 2 lane roads), if someone gets over into the left lane on a road that's got a speed limit of 65, and then proceeds to drive at 50, should the other cars pass them on the right?
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whats worse is getting behind a over sized convoy of oil field trucks on narrow curvy 2 lane state highways.
state highways here are barely 2 lanes wide with no shoulders most of them time.
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We just need better signage on our highways. 
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Be ticketed and told if they cannot do at least the speed limit they must stop using the highway as they are causing traffic problems?
If no, why not?
Uh...it's not a speed floor, it's a speed limit.
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No because there are more important things cops should be wasting taxpayer money doing, like fighting real crime
I just go around slow people. Don't understand what the problem is...maybe you guys should buy faster cars
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I personally like the challenge that comes with passing the slowpoke in the left lane by drifting past them on the grass.
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I give them a bit of time to move out of the way; if they don't change lanes, I mash it into a lower gear and roar by on the right.
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JD_HOGG posted:
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Be ticketed and told if they cannot do at least the speed limit they must stop using the highway as they are causing traffic problems?
If no, why not?
Uh...it's not a speed floor, it's a speed limit.
they should stay in the right lane
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We post minimum speeds on Oahu, to keep the tourists moving, if they want to go slow as piss, they can pull over at a scenic overlook.
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Only if they are in the left (passing) lane. As long as they are in the right lane and are maintaining the minimum required speed for the highway they have every right to be there. If conditions are ideal and they are not maintaining the minimum speed, then they should be ticketed no matter what lane they are in.
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The OP question wasn't about moving to right lanes. It was about ticketing people who do not exceed the maximum posted speed. I say exceed because it is impossible to maintain a speed at an exact level, so in order to drive the speed limit, one must actually exceed the speed limit.
So, should someone get a ticket for refusing to speed? No.
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I-65 most of the way through Indiana
Maximum speed - 70
Minimum speed - 55
If you are not in between those two numbers, you are breaking the law.
We had this discussion once before.
There are no states which officially allow you to exceed the speed limit.
"Going with the flow of traffic" is taught in defensive driving but is not actually a law.
Want to go over 70? Go to a race track.
If I'm in the left lane going 70 mph, why would you ever have to pass me unless you are breaking the law?
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in some places we have signage that says trucks must stay in the right lane (going up hills mostly), doesn't mean they do it. You never see anyone get ticketed for breaking the fast lane laws. Here if you have more than 5 people behind you in the left lane, you're impeding traffic and can be ticketed. Slow vehicles on two lane roads are supposed to use turnouts to allow people to pass them as well.
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I-65 most of the way through Indiana
Maximum speed - 70
Minimum speed - 55
If you are not in between those two numbers, you are breaking the law.
We had this discussion once before.
There are no states which officially allow you to exceed the speed limit.
Want to go over 70? Go to a race track.
If I'm in the left lane going 70 mph, why would you ever have to pass me unless you are breaking the law?
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.100
(2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when such left turn is legally permitted. On any such roadway, a vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds shall be driven only in the right-hand lane except under the conditions enumerated in (a) through (d) of this subsection.
(4) It is a traffic infraction to drive continuously in the left lane of a multilane roadway when it impedes the flow of other traffic.
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The flow of traffic in WA is generally faster than the set speed limit, a fact which is readily acknowledged by state patrol. Police will and have pulled people over for impeding traffic, even if they were doing the set speed limit.
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RCW 46.61.427
Slow-moving vehicle to pull off roadway.
On a two-lane highway where passing is unsafe because of traffic in the opposite direction or other conditions, a slow moving vehicle, behind which five or more vehicles are formed in a line, shall turn off the roadway wherever sufficient area for a safe turn-out exists, in order to permit the vehicles following to proceed. As used in this section a slow moving vehicle is one which is proceeding at a rate of speed less than the normal flow of traffic at the particular time and place.
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Note the term 'speed limit' is never used.
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It says greater than the traffic flow.
Not greater than the speed limit.
If traffic is flowing at 90 mph you really think that you are not going to get a ticket for passing at 95?
edit: If that's the case, what stops me and a group of 15 friends from cruising up the highway at 85 mph and saying "but officer, traffic was flowing he he he"
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Ticketed in Washington? Don't you mean pepper sprayed and tazed?
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Jezza_Belle posted:
in some places we have signage that says trucks must stay in the right lane (going up hills mostly), doesn't mean they do it. You never see anyone get ticketed for breaking the fast lane laws. Here if you have more than 5 people behind you in the left lane, you're impeding traffic and can be ticketed. Slow vehicles on two lane roads are supposed to use turnouts to allow people to pass them as well.
have signage that says trucks and vehicles with trailers use right lane
have passed signs that say slower traffic use right lane
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It says greater than the traffic flow.
Not greater than the speed limit.
If traffic is flowing at 90 mph you really think that you are not going to get a ticket for passing at 95?
Yes, because it happens all the damn time. Every day on my work commute the general flow of traffic moves faster than the speed limit, often passing parked state patrol cars. They do nothing unless you are excessively speeding beyond the flow of traffic.
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It says greater than the traffic flow.
Not greater than the speed limit.
If traffic is flowing at 90 mph you really think that you are not going to get a ticket for passing at 95?
Yes, because it happens all the damn time. Every day on my work commute the general flow of traffic moves faster than the speed limit, often passing parked state patrol cars. They do nothing unless you are excessively speeding beyond the flow of traffic.
except in Federal Way, where they have that really nice HOV ramp that the cops love to speed down to nail your ass if you're going more than 5 over. When I commuted that way, I saw someone pulled over there every single morning.
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Dark_EternalFF posted:
Chogram posted:
It says greater than the traffic flow.
Not greater than the speed limit.
If traffic is flowing at 90 mph you really think that you are not going to get a ticket for passing at 95?
Yes, because it happens all the damn time. Every day on my work commute the general flow of traffic moves faster than the speed limit, often passing parked state patrol cars. They do nothing unless you are excessively speeding beyond the flow of traffic.
This. I can do 75-80 on IL highways and be fine.(speed limit is 55)
It's different in wisconsin. was doing 75, people were passing me on the left, still got a fking ticket for speeding.
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Jezza_Belle posted:
Dark_EternalFF posted:
Chogram posted:
It says greater than the traffic flow.
Not greater than the speed limit.
If traffic is flowing at 90 mph you really think that you are not going to get a ticket for passing at 95?
Yes, because it happens all the damn time. Every day on my work commute the general flow of traffic moves faster than the speed limit, often passing parked state patrol cars. They do nothing unless you are excessively speeding beyond the flow of traffic.
except in Federal Way, where they have that really nice HOV ramp that the cops love to speed down to nail your ass if you're going more than 5 over. When I commuted that way, I saw someone pulled over there every single morning.
More likely than not, they're being pulled over for not being HOV-compliant. I've got one of those lanes on the on-ramp I take regularly, and the cops only pull over people who don't have a second passenger.
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Dark_EternalFF posted:
[quote=Chogram]It says greater than the traffic flow.
Not greater than the speed limit.
If traffic is flowing at 90 mph you really think that you are not going to get a ticket for passing at 95?
Yes, because it happens all the damn time. Every day on my work commute the general flow of traffic moves faster than the speed limit, often passing parked state patrol cars. They do nothing unless you are excessively speeding beyond the flow of traffic.
except in Federal Way, where they have that really nice HOV ramp that the cops love to speed down to nail your ass if you're going more than 5 over. When I commuted that way, I saw someone pulled over there every single morning.
More likely than not, they're being pulled over for not being HOV-compliant. I've got one of those lanes on the on-ramp I take regularly, and the cops only pull over people who don't have a second passenger.[/quote]
naa, it's speeders, people don't cheat the lane in that area during that time of day, traffic moves fast without it.
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Oh, is that that one spot where there's a gap within the signs on the overpass, and the cops like to park there and gun people coming SB on I-5 between the gap, with another patrol car parked on the onramp?
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Oh, is that that one spot where there's a gap within the signs on the overpass, and the cops like to park there and gun people coming SB on I-5 between the gap, with another patrol car parked on the onramp?
yep, they hide behind the sign, you can barely see the car when they're parked right.
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Be ticketed and told if they cannot do at least the speed limit they must stop using the highway as they are causing traffic problems?
If no, why not?
Yes.
Then, second offense? Shot in the right leg.
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I actually dont care so much about that as I do this. When I am bombing up the left hand lane and your slow ass is in front of me you should be thrown in jail if you dont move to the right lane. I do not at all understand why people drive like old people in the left hand lane.
this. if your going to do 40 in a 75 get the f**k over. don't drive in the passing lane like its your own little world and hold up traffic. anyone going under the speed limit in the left lane that doesn't get over to let traffic by should be ticketed. they're more of a hazard than the people speeding.
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Should drivers that refuse to do the speed limit on the highway
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Hawkson posted:
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Be ticketed and told if they cannot do at least the speed limit they must stop using the highway as they are causing traffic problems?
If no, why not?
Yes.
Then, second offense? Shot in the right leg.
Third offense? if they still don't get it? Public execution.
I want the ability to shoot paintballs at cars for doing stupid stuff. If you see a car with 20 paintballs on the back of it, you know they drive too slow and impede traffic, if the paintballs are on both sides of the car, they likely weave in and out of lanes driving erratically. on the hood, they're likely a tailgater.
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the speed limit is not just whats posted a lot of factors can go into determining the limit. For example bad weather conditions,road work another ,night time (you can only drive as fast as you can stop and that needs to be determined by your headlights) . Im just pointing out that just because for whatever reason you can drive 70 doesnt mean someone else can or should.
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and here i thought you were going to say diaf
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I had a friend who got a ticket for going too slow on the freeway. He was a horrible driver and was a smart man and gave up his license. 
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