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-Drack- 
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Ok so my hd ended up crashing or something and I had to reformat. But now, whenever I start the compute it will freeze within a minute. Sometimes at windows loading screen, sometimes it fully loads to desktop then freezes but it always happens. I know it's something in the BIOS because I had this problem when I first got the computer and fixed it by messing around with the bios turning things on and off. Eventually I got it working though I'm not sure which specific setting I changed that actually fixed it. I've got a Asus Rampage Gene II as my motherboard. It's Windows 7... I think those are the only factors that matter.

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated!

 

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Rule out power supply?

 

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How could I rule it out? It seems to be working fine... it's powering the computer. Sometimes it makes it to desktop before freezing. And like I said i had this same problem when I first built this computer and I fixed it by changing something in the BIOS. That's why I don't think it would be the power suppy.

 

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If you are pretty confident that is what it is, and I am not from your description, go into the bios and restore to factory defaults. That will eliminate any changes you made.



Then update all drivers in Windows, if you can.

 

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One time my computer would not start at all. I'd turn it on and a beeping would come from within, that's it.

I checked all of the power supply and data connections, it still wouldn't start.
Then I blew all of the dust out of it (have a reversible vacuum cleaner, so it REALLY blew all of the dust out).

Started right up. Not kidding, true story.

 

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I've done the same dust thing before too. Blew it out and magically worked, after having tried pretty much everything else.

Not sure how to fiddle with BIOS other than you trying out different things that worked the first round when you first got/built it...

 

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Let me break this down.

-Drack- posted:
Ok so my hd ended up crashing or something and I had to reformat.


Umm... your hd crashed? Usually hard drives physically fail, in which case reformatting doesn't do any good. If your hard drive is, in fact, the culprit, then it has some sort of physical defect and is probably the source of your issues.

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But now, whenever I start the compute it will freeze within a minute. Sometimes at windows loading screen, sometimes it fully loads to desktop then freezes but it always happens. I know it's something in the BIOS because I had this problem when I first got the computer and fixed it by messing around with the bios turning things on and off.


This doesn't make sense. Reformatting your hd does not change your bios settings. Unless you opened up your case and reset your bios using either the switch or jumper settings, the bios is probably in the same state it was before you reformatted.


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Eventually I got it working though I'm not sure which specific setting I changed that actually fixed it. I've got a Asus Rampage Gene II as my motherboard. It's Windows 7... I think those are the only factors that matter.

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated!


I think your hard drive is dying, and that you'll end up replacing it. If not, then find out why your bios got reset... i might even look to see if there's a new version of the bios for my motherboard and flash that and see if it helps.

 

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I had a similar problem that turned out to be a faulty hard drive. Backup, format (not quick), and re-install would hold off the problem for a while, but it would eventually come back. I replaced the hard drive, and it's been perfectly fine ever since.

 

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Yeah HD's get damaged, sounds like that happened and the only fix I know of besides replacing it is somehow figuring out which part of the HD is damaged and partitioning it so your computer doesn't try to use it.

Probably should just buy a new HD (or replaced if you have a warranty). There are HD checks and such you can run that might verify the damage.

 

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freeze like everything on screen stops?

if so, i've found these to be the most common freezing culprits:
a. memory
b. power supply
c. motherboard


if memory, dust out your machine and reseat all memory. test sticks individually and potentially run memtest or other diagnostic.

if power supply, try another PSU. weird things happen if a power supply is wonky, including freezing.

if motherboard, sry bro time to spend some money.


it could also be related to your hard drive crash or 'whatever' but you didn't really specify what was happening that made you reformat it.
if you mean freezing as in - the computer randomly shuts down, or blue/black screens of death, then my answer would change.

 

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your HardDrive is failing, when you reformat it finds bad sectors in the disk and black lists them so you can not read or write to those sectors, and as long as the rest of the disk stays working you wont have problems but if the disk continues to fail and more bad sectors are created the data you have written on those sectors become corrupt and window will freeze when you try to restart.

cant do much but change your Hard drive.

 

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regulator_cracka posted:
If you are pretty confident that is what it is, and I am not from your description, go into the bios and restore to factory defaults. That will eliminate any changes you made.
Then update all drivers in Windows, if you can.


Already tried restoring bios to default. I think its a bios setting problem because like I said when I first built he computer I had the EXACT same problem. I messed around in bios, eventually got it working and it has worked fine for years.

myxomatosis8 posted:
not sure how to fiddle with BIOS other than you trying out different things that worked the first round when you first got/built it...


yeah I seem to have tried every assortment of settings this time around and still nothing. I did manage to get it to work for a good 15 minutes, then I turned it off. Windows tried to update automatically while shutting down and it froze there.

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This doesn't make sense. Reformatting your hd does not change your bios settings. Unless you opened up your case and reset your bios using either the switch or jumper settings, the bios is probably in the same state it was before you reformatted.


I didn't think of that you're right. I assumed bios got reset since it was the exact same problem as when I first built the computer and I fixed it in the bios. But either way I had reset the bios to default after I tried a few combinations of settings. So if it wasn't in a different state before it is now lol.

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I think your hard drive is dying, and that you'll end up replacing it. If not, then find out why your bios got reset... i might even look to see if there's a new version of the bios for my motherboard and flash that and see if it helps.


I never did understand how to update or flash the bios.

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freeze like everything on screen stops?


Yes. And I'll try the memory thing.

Self_adhesive posted:

could also be related to your hard drive crash or 'whatever' but you didn't really specify what was happening that made you reformat it.


It shut down completely out of nowhere. Tried to reboot and it said bootmgr missing and I couldn't get past that so I just reformatted.

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your HardDrive is failing, when you reformat it finds bad sectors in the disk and black lists them so you can not read or write to those sectors, and as long as the rest of the disk stays working you wont have problems but if the disk continues to fail and more bad sectors are created the data you have written on those sectors become corrupt and window will freeze when you try to restart.

cant do much but change your Hard drive.


I tried with two different hard drives. Reformatted them both. I have a third one I can try but its my backup so its holding everything I don't want to lose thus I don't want to reformat it. It seems strange that both of my hds would fail at the same time, that's why I keep thinking its a setting in bios because that fixed it last time.

 

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take all your ram out, then try one stick at a time to see if you can isolate a bad stick.

 

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-Drack- posted:
regulator_cracka posted:
If you are pretty confident that is what it is, and I am not from your description, go into the bios and restore to factory defaults. That will eliminate any changes you made.
Then update all drivers in Windows, if you can.


Already tried restoring bios to default. I think its a bios setting problem because like I said when I first built he computer I had the EXACT same problem. I messed around in bios, eventually got it working and it has worked fine for years.







Well then it appears to me that you are going to have to google that motherboard and find that EXACT change you made if that fixed it before.

 

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I hope you tried the easy things first like replacing the cable(s) to the HD

 

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