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I know you've indicated you are impressed with Kobe so far this year (who wouldn't be?), but do you think he can possibly hold up until the playoffs? He's more prone to injury as he ages and as the season drags on, it starts to show. To make matters worse, there won't be many days off this year with the compacted season. I'm thinking the nicks and bruises will take its toll.
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Kobe is like a bionic android, he may have a torn wrist ligament and no cartilage in his knees but he'll keep on coming until you throw him into a pool of magma like the end of Terminator 2.
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My Wizards finally won a game!
Granted, they only beat Toronto, so it's not like the beat a pro team, but still.
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Oh, those poor D.C. fans. Wizards keep letting them down.
Wizards@Bulls tonight. D.Rose is gonna make John Wall call him daddy, like he always does 
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Oh, those poor D.C. fans. Wizards keep letting them down.
Wizards@Bulls tonight. D.Rose is gonna make John Wall call him daddy, like he always does
Having watched a good number of Wizards home games since Wall was drafted, I have to say I'm not impressed. I can't figure out if he's supposed to be a slash and kick point guard or a shoot first point guard... he's certainly not a pass-first point guard. Wall struggles to get the shots he wants and at times doesn't know where the easy pass is.
Of course, if he developed in a different system than the horrible Wizards franchise, maybe he would be working on a different skill set.
I will say, the story of the season has been how quickly Ricky Rubio has come in and taken over the games he's in. Every time he's on the court, it just gets easier to score. Last five games he's averaging nearly 10 assists, with a 12 and 14 assist game, in under 30 minutes played. Easiest ROY campaign ever.
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Ricky Rubio is amazing but it's hard to call him a rookie. Hasn't he spent years and years playing against men (not boys) in the Euro league? he was on Real Madrid and Team Spain IIRC, and those are some of the best teams in Europe and the best competition in the basketball world outside the NBA. I've watched Rubio play in Spain a few times and nothing he's doing right now surprises me, I knew he'd be a beast.
As for Wall, yeah...I'm unimpressed with him as well. He had a lot of hype being a #1 pick but has never been a good shooter and hasn't shown any determination or work ethic to get better in that department. He's surrounded by a bunch of knuckleheads in a bad franchise but he himself has not really taken the initiative to show much leadership or will to win.
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Ricky Rubio is amazing but it's hard to call him a rookie. Hasn't he spent years and years playing against men (not boys) in the Euro league? he was on Real Madrid and Team Spain IIRC, and those are some of the best teams in Europe and the best competition in the basketball world outside the NBA. I've watched Rubio play in Spain a few times and nothing he's doing right now surprises me, I knew he'd be a beast.
I've seen a lot of guys come from Europe, and very few of taken to it the way Rubio has. It's hard to compare European ball to the NBA, hell even high level NCAA play is more athletic and closer to the NBA style. What's unique about Rubio is that he struggled in the Euro leagues because there weren't enough athletic guys that could play at his pace. In short, coming from anywhere in the world to the NBA and playing at the level Ricky is playing at is downright amazing, and worthy of ROY accolades.
EDIT: Hell, this guy had a lockout shortened practice schedule, no time to really mesh with teammates, started coming off the bench, and already has 4 10+ point 10+ assists games, more than anyone in the NBA.
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I actually remember Rubio struggling to score last year in Europe, but as far as passing goes, he's always been an amazing passer. I mean I haven't seen passing like that since Steve Nash or maybe Chris Paul. Rubio seems to be an adept shooter in the NBA as well, he's just so unpredictable. Guys play him for the pass then he dribble drives and finishes at the rim. Guys sag off him at the top of the key so he buries a 3. The book isn't out on Rubio yet and it'll be interesting to see what he looks like a year from now. It's only been 10 games but he's putting up crazy stats. 47% from 3 with an APER of 19. Those kinds of numbers are worthy of a #1 pick in his rookie year in most NBA drafts. Rubio needs to start already and I'd be very interested to see him look for his shot some more. He's converting efficiently at the rim and at long range but he's taken next to ZERO mid range shots so far.
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I'm not too impressed with Ricky Rubio just yet. I think it's because the first time I saw him play they had ordained him the Spanish Pistol Pete. You can't just declare someone a legend like that, and it didn't sit well with me. And to make matters worse, he was throwing the ball away with bad passes that game so I was left with a "Pistol Pete you say? Huh. Hardly." I haven't seen him play since then, but it sounds like he's playing a lot better than he did that night. Still along way to go before you can call him Pistol Rubio.
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More Rubio fun: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/35381/the-dirty-secret-about-ricky-rubio
Henry Abbot argues that statistically (by advanced metrics), he may be better defensively than offensively. He's averaging a couple steals a game as is (since they increased his minutes), and his teams defensive +/- is significantly better when he's on the court.
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Yeah he surprised me on defense too, poked a few Balls away from D.Rose. He's got some quick hands. And if there's one thing D.Rose hates, it's a quick, athletic back court that can poke balls away from him as he tries to break past the double team.
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Yeah he surprised me on defense too, poked a few Balls away from D.Rose. He's got some quick hands. And if there's one thing D.Rose hates, it's a quick, athletic back court that can poke balls away from him as he tries to break past the double team.
That bulls/wolves game was pretty entertaining. Rubio and Rose put on a show, but it's clear that right now the Bulls are a far more complete team. Rubio destroyed my Wiz with 14 assists the another night, and he turned DC into his own personal "lob city" which is probably why I'm still talking about him.
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Wolves have a bright future though, they can build around Rubio and Kevin Love. Unfortunately for you, their future looks brighter than your Wizards  That's what teams should do though, they should look more to Europe when the draft comes around, especially for good teams that get high draft picks. Just stockpile talent in Europe and keep them over there for years gaining experience and keeping them off the books. Thats what the Bulls did with Nicola Mirotic, and that kids a beast too. Voted MVP on Real Madrid, only 20 years old, deadly shooter with great efficiency, a good stretch 4 to replace Boozer in 2 or 3 years time. Looking to Europe is a recipe that made the Spurs contenders every year for a long time too.
Rubio on Rose: "He's great," Rubio said. "It's hard to defense him. Maybe he's one of the best, if not the best, player I've ever played against. ... It's hard to guard him. He's the fastest guy I ever played."
Aw Ricky...what a cute accent
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Wolves have a bright future though, they can build around Rubio and Kevin Love. Unfortunately for you, their future looks brighter than your Wizards
Ain't that the truth. Here's a great article about the Wizards 2011-2012 season (which makes me wonder why I keep buying tickets...)
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7450625/rafe-bartholomew-suffers-fate-worse-death-#8212-watching-wizards-raptors
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You know what, I'll also throw John Wall onto the list of hard-to-watch players. He runs very fast and finishes a few-jaw dropping drives every game. He makes some astounding defensive plays, too, like when he got caught on a high screen against Calderon in the third quarter. Calderon rose for what looked like a wide-open jumper, only to have Wall recover and fly into the play in time to block Calderon's shot. The rest of the time, however, Wall mostly commits turnovers and badly misses pull-up jumpers. His teammates aren't much help, but I don't believe they deserve as much of the blame as they've been getting for Wall's 34 percent shooting and an efficiency ranking that puts him 178th in the NBA.
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Yep, Wall has been that bad.
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I don't know what the deal is with the Wizards and how they could suck so bad for so long. They tried changing their name from the Bullets. They brought in Michael Jordan. Even Michael Jordan couldn't turn that mess around. It must be depressing as a fan. They haven't been good since the Elvin Hayes/Wes Unseld days. How could they suck for so long? Is the owner a frickin moron or something?
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Wall just needs to learn how to shoot, it starts and ends there with him. I can't believe he went through the off season and didn't work on that jumper. Stevie Wonder could see his shooting was abysmal last year.
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JD_HOGG posted:
I don't know what the deal is with the Wizards and how they could suck so bad for so long. They tried changing their name from the Bullets. They brought in Michael Jordan. Even Michael Jordan couldn't turn that mess around. It must be depressing as a fan. They haven't been good since the Elvin Hayes/Wes Unseld days. How could they suck for so long? Is the owner a frickin moron or something?
The new owner is Ted Leonsis, the man who turned the Capitols from a laughingstock to an NHL contender. I'm skeptical he'll improve the Wizards much, but we'll see.
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Yeah this is probably the first and last time anybody on ACF will discuss the Wizards (nba team).
Weird game tonight. I def think it's a bad sign that the Wizards can't beat the Bulls playing their 3rd and 4th string PGs.
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