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Voodoo-Dahl 
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I listened to parts of this on NPR this weekend.

This American Life posted:
Mike Daisey was a self-described "worshipper in the cult of Mac." Then he saw some photos from a new iPhone, taken by workers at the factory where it was made. Mike wondered: Who makes all my crap? He traveled to China to find out.

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The Atlantic posted:
As American consumers ogle over shiny new gadgets at this week's Consumer Electronic's Show, the workers that make those products are threatening mass suicide for the horrid working conditions at Foxconn. 300 employees who worked making the Xbox 360 stood at the edge of the factory building, about to jump, after their boss reneged on promised compensation, reports English news site Want China Times. It's not like this is the first time working conditions at Foxconn have made news outside China. But iPhone and Xbox sales surely haven't lagged in the wake of those revelations and neither Apple nor Microsoft has done much of anything to fix things.

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Not that I am unsympathetic but in all candor I don't care. My own nation has its own very serious issues affecting Americans. And I don't buy their products anyway (TTBOMK). They can sort out their own problems and I would expect nothing less of the people there to stick up for themselves.

 

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Hold on, let me get that article up on my ipad......

 

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Buying the crap made in China is making the Chinese want to kill themselves? I may have to start shopping at WalMart.

 

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They should just beg the majority for food stamps and free everything

Oh wait

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I want cheap mod and don't care if you have to kill 10 babies to get it to me.

 

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Sounds like something Jesus might have said!

 

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Sounds like an issue with the government. Is it ineffectual or just corrupt?

 

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The government basically pays for all of their food, housing, utilities, and is expanding on healthcare.

Chinese people just aren't very docile and will protest even if you threaten to shoot them, unlike the fat hippie cowards in their scooters in America.

 

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lulz, and I thought news traveled to Croatia slow. When word of the national OWS protest finally get to Chinville, ask and we'll explain it to you.

 

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The government basically pays for all of their food, housing, utilities, and is expanding on healthcare.

Chinese people just aren't very docile and will protest even if you threaten to shoot them, unlike the fat hippie cowards in their scooters in America.


That's all well and good, but a basic duty for government is to enforce contracts. If two entities have a deal and one breaks that deal, it is governments job to arbitrate the matter. I think even BT would agree with me on that. So where is the break down? Can the Chinese Government not enforce a ruling on US companies doing business there? Does it fear a ruling against the company will mean the business will take its toys and go home? Did these businesses bribe Chinese officials to look away?

 

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Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, I don't know the specifics but they have special considerations in place.

 

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You have to be one of the biggest racists ever to grace us here on the Outpost. What a disgustingly sad individual you are.

 

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You have to be one of the biggest racists ever to grace us here on the Outpost. What a disgustingly sad individual you are.

 

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Tych2 posted:
You have to be one of the biggest racists ever to grace us here on the Outpost. What a disgustingly sad individual you are.

 

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Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, I don't know the specifics but they have special considerations in place.




Article posted:
300 employees who worked making the Xbox360 stood at the edge of the factory building,about to jump, after their boss reneged on promised compensation,reports English news site Want China Times.


 

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Double down on racism!

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
dae_trist posted:
Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, I don't know the specifics but they have special considerations in place.




Article posted:
300 employees who worked making the Xbox360 stood at the edge of the factory building,about to jump, after their boss reneged on promised compensation,reports English news site Want China Times.



It is a Taiwanese company, but they have factories all over the world...

 

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I don't know what an OEM is

 

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Its telling that you can't take criticism of your national government without knee jerking into racism. laugh
Maybe after their economy China will upgrade its citizens.

 

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I mean seriously, that's something I'd expect from Niggeville.

 

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dae_trist you are an embarrassment to whatever race you call home. I can't imagine anyone seeing your posts and being proud of what you espouse.

Yup people like you affect me. Your type is a disgrace to humanity and hopefully a dying breed.

 

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Its telling that you can't take criticism of your national government without knee jerking into racism. laugh



If by "criticism of your national government" you mean "wishing that random civilians in a different country die" then yes. And if by "knee jerking into racism" you mean "copying and pasting something a racist denizen of Niggeville posted, and changing a few letters" then you're also right.

You win a KFC Coupon, sorry about the intelligence deficit though.

 

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I don't know what an OEM is. I'm asking questions precisely because I don't know. What's your point, other than deflecting that you don't know either, Dae?

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dae_trist posted:
Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, I don't know the specifics but they have special considerations in place.




Article posted:
300 employees who worked making the Xbox360 stood at the edge of the factory building,about to jump, after their boss reneged on promised compensation,reports English news site Want China Times.



It is a Taiwanese company, but they have factories all over the world...


Thanks, I misread that part. Saw 360 and assumed Microsoft

 

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I think all foreigners are smelly and should die. I have no problem with stealing pocket change out of an African mother's purse, but paying them 10% of what we steal back in inefficient aid? NEVER!! PS, I'm not racist. I just want 100 million blacks to die.

 

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laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OEM

Guess what, Microsoft doesn't actually physically manufacture the XBox at some kind of XBox factory in Oklahoma. Santa also doesn't actually deliver gifts to every child on Christmas.

 

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Its always amusing when twatter melts down and thinks he's winning by making himself to be a giant racist ass. He sure showed us! laugh

 

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It's not hard to make him /meltdown and evolve into his racist self.

 

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Cry some more, Tych

 

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dae_trist posted:
laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OEM

Guess what, Microsoft doesn't actually physically manufacture the XBox at some kind of XBox factory in Oklahoma. Santa also doesn't actually deliver gifts to every child on Christmas.


You're still not answering the relevent question. It doesn't matter whether its a Tawainese company, an American company, or even a Chinese company. If the employees had a contract with their employers, its the governments job to make sure both sides honor that contract. Where is the breakdown?

 

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From what I'm reading, it was a "promise", and not a contract. But then again I haven't been following the issue, aside from knowing that Chinese people will always protest if they think they're getting shortchanged.

 

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Its funny because Twatter isn't special, he is the average chinese citizen; drooling, raging, and racist.

 

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Its funny because Mo_Cox isn't special, he is the average ghetto citizen; uneducated, raging, and racist.


Try leaving your impoverished slum before commenting on the world as a whole, that computer you stole and the internet connection you're leeching notwithstanding.




 

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From what I'm reading, it was a "promise", and not a contract. But then again I haven't been following the issue, aside from knowing that Chinese people will always protest if they think they're getting shortchanged.


So basically you're relying on your own racism for your information. Big help.

 

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Please, you can form a coherent sentence, don't throw in the laughable race card along with an appeal to ignorance. Leave that for Moderated like Mo_Cocks. It would help if you explained your agenda beforehand, what is your question exactly? I explained what an OEM was, I'm wondering if you are missing anything else.


Laughable race card? You're unapologetically racist. Please hurry up and join civilization.

 

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Poor Dae. It must be hard being the dumbest member of your race.

 

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I'm half black ,and I'm smart as Mod ! dancing

 

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Poor Dae. It must be hard being the dumbest member of your race.


I would love that, actually.

 

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I'm half black ,and I'm smart as mod ! dancing


I believe you hugs

But fair is fair, Mo must take what he dishes out shock

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He's a champ tbh

 

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laugh

Moe dished out cock to Dae and Dae wants his turn now? The hostility is understood!

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There isn't perfect equivalence. He spews his racist twaddle, and gets something else in return chicken

 

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Things I learned in this thread:

1.No one cares about Chinese people. Not even Chinese people.

2. dae_twat is insecure about the size of his penis and as a result hates black people.

3. Americans are over paying for i-phones.

 

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Who cares as long as we get inexpensive consumer products?

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Subject: Foxconn working conditions in China.
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
Sounds like an issue with the government. Is it ineffectual or just corrupt?


Considering the law requires all businesses to give 50% ownership of companies to the government, the latter is more appropo

 

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Tych2 posted:
dae_trist you are an embarrassment to whatever race you call home. I can't imagine anyone seeing your posts and being proud of what you espouse.

Yup people like you affect me. Your type is a disgrace to humanity and hopefully a dying breed.




you are ok with the murder of human beings to get their stuff


pretty sure you are the one that humanity doesn't need moron


inb4 the meltdown on my race by the racist tych


you know what you are ? a slug


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Orwyn_Blackheart posted:
you are ok with the murder of human beings to get their stuff
Back that up with a post of mine? You are just an alt of dae_trist. He got banned and now you suddenly appear. We all have seen your crying its old and busted. Like you.

Where are you from again? Coward.

 

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This thread has been good for some lulz.

 

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Twatter went to band camp? Aww. I know I should claim victory, but seriously, Devs can you unban that idiot? He is deeply and seriously racist, but I sense hope in that pile of doodoo. There is like a wee little better twatter deep inside, wanting to get out and be apart of the community, but surrounded by layers and layers of propaganda taught nonsense which makes him stupid.

What I am saying is that despite him being a complete fooking racist moron, I only think its half his fault.
He will get better with time.
and beatings.

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What I am saying is that despite him being a complete fooking racist moron, I only think its half his fault.
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Probably the non-Chinese half.

 

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