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Kamdar 
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That does not exist...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/business/energy-environment/companies-face-fines-for-not-using-unavailable-biofuel.html

WASHINGTON — When the companies that supply motor fuel close the books on 2011, they will pay about $6.8 million in penalties to the Treasury because they failed to mix a special type of biofuel into their gasoline and diesel as required by law.
But there was none to be had. Outside a handful of laboratories and workshops, the ingredient, cellulosic biofuel, does not exist.


Man..Can't fix stupid.

 

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That's just dumb. Even if they sold it, how can I be guaranteed its available to me?

 

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Kamdar posted:
Man..Can't fix stupid.
Yep but you can downsize govt back into its constitutional box to reduce the vast output of stoopit.

 

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Aerlinthian posted:
Kamdar posted:
Man..Can't fix stupid.
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Can you just post that from now on? You bring the same redundant drivel to every thread you post in. Might as well save everyone the 8 seconds it takes to read your post.

 

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They knew the targets we coming from 2007. I guess they should have invested more money into the product to make it available in time. grin

 

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Its a way for the government to steal more money.

 

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Biofuels are just such a bad idea on many levels, but some people just want to put off the enevitable as long as possible... laugh

 

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I agree with Tych2 on this one. 2 huge crooks. Gov and oil companies.

 

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Biofuel makes fuel and food more expensive. Terrible thing for the govt to push.

 

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Scarne posted:
They knew the targets we coming from 2007. I guess they should have invested more money into the product to make it available in time. grin
Basically what you're saying is, is that you support fascism.

 

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Its only terrible for those that have to buy it or are forced to buy it. The people selling it stand everything to gain. Not the consumer.

 

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Ok, so I did some digging on this because I was curious and wanted to know who was responsible for this POS legislation. Wanna see something kinda trippy?

So here is the bill as listed on Govtrack.

From there, I did a look up on the Roll Call for the Senate, which I sorted by party (link)

The list of Republican Senators that voted for this bill?


Yea MN Coleman, Norm [R]
Yea ME Collins, Susan [R]
Yea TN Corker, Bob [R]
Yea ID Craig, Larry [R]
Yea ID Crapo, Michael [R]
Yea NM Domenici, Pete [R]
Yea NV Ensign, John [R]
Yea IA Grassley, Charles [R]
Yea NH Gregg, Judd [R]
Yea IN Lugar, Richard [R]
Yea AK Murkowski, Lisa [R]
Yea AL Sessions, Jefferson [R]
Yea OR Smith, Gordon [R]
Yea ME Snowe, Olympia [R]
Yea AK Stevens, Ted [R]
Yea NH Sununu, John [R]
Yea SD Thune, John [R]
Yea VA Warner, John [R]


Holy crap!

 

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laugh

 

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Please note, I'm not blaming republicans.  I just think the coincidence between those that voted for the bill and then immediately had bad crap happen to them is striking.

It's almost as if some unseen hand was at work meting out karmic retribution for failing to vote against a bill that was bad for oil and energy companies thinking

 

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Taliesihne posted:
Ok, so I did some digging on this because I was curious and wanted to know who was responsible for this POS legislation. Wanna see something kinda trippy? <snip>


Yea IL Obama, Barack [D]

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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
Kamdar posted:
Man..Can't fix stupid.
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Can you post that about me from now on? I am Forest Gump IRL...


np at all Altra, I'll be glad to accommodate you.

 

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Mastara posted:
Its only terrible for those that have to buy it or are forced to buy it. The people selling it stand everything to gain. Not the consumer.





yup
and those people have a right to profit
the government should force people to pay for it

 

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This is government at its worse. I can see the liberal excuse for removing the law. "We cannot afford it. It is not paid for."

 

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Taliesihne posted:
Ok, so I did some digging on this because I was curious and wanted to know who was responsible for this POS legislation.

More important than who voted for it is which lobbyists pushed it. It would be funny if it was the same companies who are now paying the fine the ones who lobbied for it to pass. grin

 

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