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How do you people tolerate this? I tried watching a football game over the holidays and I couldn't get over the game stopping for commercials every 10 minutes or so.
I guess you could record and watch afterward, but that takes the fun out of watching the game live.
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Some of those commercials are funny the ones that aren't you get up and stretch, pee, or grab a snack.
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Some of those commercials are funny the ones that aren't you get up and stretch, pee, or grab a snack.
I hate the commercials with a passion. Getting up and going somewhere else would be an option if you knew exactly how long the commercials were going to last. There are commercial at half time in soccer, but you know for a fact the halftime break is set to last precisely 15 minutes. If they would tell me beforehand precisely how long the commercial break is going to be I think I could stand to watch it.
Also, what are the players doing during the commercial breaks? Just sitting around waiting too?
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This is opposed to watching sports without commercials, which happens in what alternate universe?
PS. Commercial breaks happen at appropriate moments for each sport.
In football that could be during a time out, an injury time out, after a punt or kickoff while they change sides, or after a score while they change from O/D to special teams.
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This is opposed to watching sports without commercials, which happens in what alternate universe?
Like I said, in soccer the commercial break is precisely timed and there is only one in the whole game.
There are the sideboards around the pitch but I don't find that as intrusive because there is no sound and they're just in the background.
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This is opposed to watching sports without commercials, which happens in what alternate universe?
Like I said, in soccer the commercial break is precisely timed.
As it is in football, see edit.
Edit: And i've never seen a soccer game with only one commercial break. That isn't the norm at all.
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I hate the commercials with a passion.
Commercials don't bother me. You guys are way to stressed about stuff you can't control. Whether it be commercials or how someone likes their streak cook. You guys are going to end up with ulcers.
I assume the players are resting up and/or talking up the up coming strategy. Perhaps they are just saying to each other, 'Rest up for a few minutes, Joe has to pee and grab some chips.'
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Some of those commercials are funny the ones that aren't you get up and stretch, pee, or grab a snack.
I hate the commercials with a passion. Getting up and going somewhere else would be an option if you knew exactly how long the commercials were going to last. There are commercial at half time in soccer, but you know for a fact the halftime break is set to last precisely 15 minutes. If they would tell me beforehand precisely how long the commercial break is going to be I think I could stand to watch it.
Also, what are the players doing during the commercial breaks? Just sitting around waiting too?
Some of the commercials happen with game stoppage for injuries, team-called time-outs, referee discussions resulting in a time-out, or play challenges or whatnot. Some happen for quarter changes, and some are mandatory.
During those times, the players stand around and do nothing. It bugs the siht out of me when I'm there live.
Generally speaking if the commercial is occurring because of an injury or a play challenge, expect it to be relatively short in duration - a minute or so. If they went to commercial with nothing like that driving it, you probably have a full length commercial break 2 to 4 minutes or so (I don't know how long a "standard" commercial break is exactly).
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This is opposed to watching sports without commercials, which happens in what alternate universe?
Like I said, in soccer the commercial break is precisely timed.
As it is in football, see edit.
No they arn't. Your edit says they happen at unpredictable times and last unpredictable lengths. That is the opposite of being precisely timed.
In soccer you know the one commercial break in the game happens between the first half and the second half and lasts precisely 15 minutes. That is what I mean by precisely timed.
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Edit: And i've never seen a soccer game with only one commercial break. That isn't the norm at all.
Seriously? You watch soccer games that have commercial breaks during the halves? How would that even be possible?
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Who cares? It's only soccer and smelly foreigners and a few American kids watch it. You know.. people that don't count.
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Edit: And i've never seen a soccer game with only one commercial break. That isn't the norm at all.
Seriously? You watch soccer games that have commercial breaks during the halves? How would that even be possible?
I think some American networks chop them up to appease the corporate overlords
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[quote=Kjarhall]This is opposed to watching sports without commercials, which happens in what alternate universe?
Like I said, in soccer the commercial break is precisely timed.
As it is in football, see edit.
No they arn't. Your edit says they happen at unpredictable times and last unpredictable lengths. That is the opposite of being precisely timed.
In soccer you know the one commercial break in the game happens between the first half and the second half and lasts precisely 15 minutes. That is what I mean by precisely timed.[/quote]
They are precisely timed to coordinate with specific actions that occur in the game. So the fans don't miss any of the action. There isn't an issue here, it's the best way to handle it.
And again, i've never seen a soccer game that does their ads how you say. Perhaps you watch foreign feeds, which would mean it's more of a difference of how the media from each place differs, having nothing to do with the particular sport.
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And again, i've never seen a soccer game that does their ads how you say. Perhaps you watch foreign feeds, which would mean it's more of a difference of how the media from each place differs, having nothing to do with the particular sport.
I am really intrigued by this. You are correct I watch foreign feeds.
Are you telling me that American broadcasters actually don't show the soccer game live and instead break it up to show commercials? Or that the game actually STOPS in the middle of a half for a commercial break?
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And again, i've never seen a soccer game that does their ads how you say. Perhaps you watch foreign feeds, which would mean it's more of a difference of how the media from each place differs, having nothing to do with the particular sport.
I am really intrigued by this. You are correct I watch foreign feeds.
Are you telling me that American broadcasters actually don't show the soccer game live and instead break it up to show commercials? Or that the game actually STOPS in the middle of a half for a commercial break?
Well, no game is truly live, they're all delayed. Yours is probably on the standard x second delay, while ours gets delayed further by pausing for commercial breaks. I'm not really sure about MLS games, as i've only watched once (  ) I'm strictly talking about Euro/Brit games on US networks.
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watching a game is usually a social event if you aren't some sad no friend having loner douchenozzle....then commercials are time to talk about previous events/highlights w/o interrupting the game
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Yuki I call BS that you've never seen a soccer game broadcast by an American broadcaster. Your feigned ignorance on the topic is comical.
Two facts we know.
1) You hold duel citizenship.
2) You like soccer.
From those two fact we can extrapolate that you've at least seen part of a soccer game while in the US broadcast by an American broadcaster. If you are saying you ONLY watch foreign feeds I don't by it. You've never watched a game at a friend's house? At a bar?
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Tych, yes and no. I have watched soccer games on fox soccer channel, which is an American cable channel. They don't pause for commercial breaks except during the half. I've also watched international soccer on ESPN, and they don't pause except at the half either. I assumed all U.S. broadcasters were the same, but maybe those two are how they are because they are speciality broadcasters.
I have never, ever watched a soccer game that had commercial breaks during the game. Ever. It honestly floors me that they do that.
You do see commercial breaks before kickoff and after the end of the game. But that isn't during the game either. Once the game starts (at a precise time), it goes for 45 minutes straight. You then have a precise 15 minute half-time break during which there are commercials. Then you have another 45 minutes of straight game without commercials.
I am honestly absolutely stupified and disgusted that anyone would break up a soccer game to show commercials. It is completely anathema to the culture of the game.
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I am now going to have to watch a soccer game on ESPN to see if you are telling the truth.
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Do they cut away for injury time outs during these soccer broadcasts? I know that sort of thing can't be scheduled but would be a hit or miss deal - sort of impromptu commercials where the sponsor will pay an ad hoc fee if their ad gets played?
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The last time I watched an international game on ESPN was the Champion's League final in May. That definitely did not have commercial breaks during the halves.
I have no clue what MLS does because it is a joke league and I don't watch it.
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Do they cut away for injury time outs during these soccer broadcasts? I know that sort of thing can't be scheduled but would be a hit or miss deal - sort of impromptu commercials where the sponsor will pay an ad hoc fee if their ad gets played?
I've never seen that and I've watched all the major English language foreign feeds (ITV, Sky, Al Jazeera, GolTV, Setanta). When there is an injury they show the treatment process and the commentators chat about the injury or about other things. I've never seen them go to a commercial. I honestly think there would be riots in the street if they did. The game not stopping is an article of faith for soccer viewers. Even when there is an injury the clock doesn't stop in soccer so if you showed a commercial it would mean you weren't really broadcasting the full game.
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Do they cut away for injury time outs during these soccer broadcasts? I know that sort of thing can't be scheduled but would be a hit or miss deal - sort of impromptu commercials where the sponsor will pay an ad hoc fee if their ad gets played?
I've never seen that and I've watched all the major English language foreign feeds (ITV, Sky, Al Jazeera, GolTV, Setanta). When there is an injury they show the treatment process and the commentators chat about the injury or about other things. I've never seen them go to a commercial. I honestly think there would be riots in the street if they did. The game not stopping is an article of faith for soccer viewers. Even when there is an injury the clock doesn't stop in soccer so if you showed a commercial it would mean you weren't really broadcasting the full game.
Well they add time at the ref's discretion for injuries, so it's not like there's no accounting for that time.
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ESPN definitely has multiple breaks. That was specifically one of the networks i was alluding to in previous posts.
PS. Watching straight through without breaks has several disadvantages. You miss action when you have to pee or get up for any other reason, it limits conversation with whomever you're watching the game with, and you can't divert your attention for anything else or flip channels.
I rather like the breaks. It gives me a chance to do whatever i gotta do. I can call my entire family on Sunday through all the breaks, and catch a few snips of other games.
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I agree. I like the breaks.
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Well they add time at the ref's discretion for injuries, so it's not like there's no accounting for that time.
Yeah, but that's not the point. It's "added time," not "replacement time." Even the nomenclature reinforces the philosophy.
The game doesn't stop in soccer. If it did it wouldn't be soccer any more. There would be riots in the street if the broadcasters I watch tried to pull that shit.
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Well they add time at the ref's discretion for injuries, so it's not like there's no accounting for that time.
Yeah, but that's not the point. It's "added time," not "replacement time." Even the nomenclature reinforces the philosophy.
The game doesn't stop in soccer. If it did it wouldn't be soccer any more. There would be riots in the street if the broadcasters I watch tried to pull that shit.
The game does stop lol. It's not like the guys with the stretchers are dodging other players kicking the ball and running past them like some old Laurel and Hardy silent film.
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ESPN definitely has multiple breaks.
Oh wait, it wasn't ESPN that showed the CL final. It was Fox Sports. I just remember having to go watch it on a general channel because they made some deal to try to get more people to watch it.
http://www.channelguidemagblog.com/index.php/2011/05/17/27928/
I guess I haven't actually watched an ESPN soccer broadcast. I use espn3 all the time but that is streaming and doesn't have any ads period.
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The game does stop lol. It's not like the guys with the stretchers are dodging other players kicking the ball and running past them like some old Laurel and Hardy silent film.
The game doesn't stop. The clock keeps ticking. As long as the clock is going the game is going. The ball is not in play but the players are free to move around the pitch. They don't have to go back to their old positions when the ball is put back in play.
Incidentally, an injury doesn't automatically stop play either. Unless the refree stops play or a player puts the ball out of play the game continues even if there is an injury. The medics can't come on until play stops.
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The game does stop lol. It's not like the guys with the stretchers are dodging other players kicking the ball and running past them like some old Laurel and Hardy silent film.
The game doesn't stop. The clock keeps ticking. As long as the clock is going the game is going. The ball is not in play but the players are free to move around the pitch. They don't have to go back to their old positions when the ball is put back in play.
Incidentally, an injury doesn't automatically stop play either. Unless the refree stops play or a player puts the ball out of play the game continues even if there is an injury. The medics can't come on until play stops.
LOL that's a hell of a lot of explanation to try to make a pretty lame semantic argument.
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You may consider it a lame semantic argument but soccer fans don't. There would be riots in the streets of Manchester if Sky had tried to put in commercial breaks during the FA cup tie yesterday.
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You may consider it a lame semantic argument but soccer fans don't. There would be riots in the streets of Manchester if Sky had tried to put in commercial breaks during the FA cup tie yesterday.
Dude, Euros rioting in the streets about soccer isn't the point of emphasis you seem to think it is 
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Commercial breaks in American sports games
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Incidentally that is probably part of the reason why soccer games arn't broadcast for free in Europe. The fans pay to not have the game broken up.
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