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http://www.heroengine.com/2011/11/heroengine-meets-starwars/
We showed the game to our friend Gordon Walton. We had known Gordon for many years, back in the days when he worked for Kesmai, our late great competitor. Gordon had since been with Sony for its Star Wars Galaxies game among other places. He knows games, especially online games.
Not only did we show him the game, but because Gordon knew us so well we showed him the development tools we had built around our special process – building the game online, in realtime, with tools for the entire team all in one package.
“I need this,†said Gordon. “I am about to start a special project and these tools will let us build and prototype fast and get something running in a hurry.†Gordon is not an excitable guy by nature but this had his adrenaline flowing. “This is just what I need! I want to license your engine.â€
We had thought about offering our engine and tools to developers but we had expected that we would have to actually ship a game first, like Epic did with Unreal Tournament before they licensed the original Unreal Engine.
“It’s not productized yet,†we told Gordon. “There are whole sections of code that is only roughed in and not optimized for performance or security. And there are very few comments and very little documentation.â€
He didn’t care. “We are going to have tons of engineers. We can finish it ourselves. We’re going to want to modify your source code for our special project anyway.â€
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Mythic did this with DAoC.
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Woah. You mean something else that happened in damn near every MMO ever happened in TOR's case as well? You're making quite the list.
PS: QQ more.
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Woah. You mean something else that happened in damn near every MMO ever happened in TOR's case as well? You're making quite the list.
PS: QQ more.
No I have always held Bio-Ware in very high regards, they have never ever disappointed me with the purchase of a BW product ever, until now.
One thread on the customer service forums is 8000+ pages long(its been broken up into 8 1000 page threads)
I dont know who is running BW's customer service department but they need to fired and all the csr's need to be retrained or something.
Deleting tickets, posts and threads, there are even examples of csr replies that are copy and pasted replies with the wrong customer info or it will have a reply that has nothing to do with the trouble ticket, a few of them have been posted on the customer service forums.
Even with a broken game you can still have great customer service, but professionalism in that department is lacking at EA/BW. That is the main reason why I am pissed and so are tens of thousands of customers that have been treated the same way, ignored.
I know all mmo's have issues but at least you would hear something from the developers besides telling people with top end machines please lower your graphic settings or tweak this and that.
Why dont they just admit they have a memory/coding issue, even nvidia developers are saying TOR has a memory issue now.
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That was in 2005... HERP DE DERP
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arekthorn posted:
That was in 2005... HERP DE DERP
really now this is EA we are talking about, how many other game studios they have bought out and ruined?
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Been a while since i have seen so many tears about any one game on ACF...
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-VanDraegon- posted:
Been a while since i have seen so many tears about any one game on ACF...
I love Star Wars look at my username.
I stuck with SWG for 2 1/2 years through all the crap,broken mechanics, and exploits because I love Star Wars and at least SWG dev's at least would admit there was a issue, sometimes it would take them a while to fix something but at least they would say "we have a issue".
With this game its like they are afraid to say anything because of the negative publicity.
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did you even try the workaround or are you just trolling now
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Motar98 posted:
did you even try the workaround or are you just trolling now
Of course he did. He reformatted twice and the game made his comp over heat!
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Sith_Mauler posted:
Onslaught. posted:
Woah. You mean something else that happened in damn near every MMO ever happened in TOR's case as well? You're making quite the list.
PS: QQ more.
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-VanDraegon- posted:
Been a while since i have seen so many tears about any one game on ACF...
Note that this is all from one user. Everyone else is having no issues at all.
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arekthorn posted:
That was in 2005... HERP DE DERP
Really, now you are blaming the Hero Engine which was unfinished in 2005 as the source of your problems?
The problem is more likely one that is a PEBKAC.
You bow up when someone suggests you start adjusting your settings to see if you can determine what is causing the problem, you want Bioware to fix your problem when in reality the problem is with your system and since there is an infinite number of hardware combinations, until you start troubleshooting it and providing more information to Bioware there is no way they can even address your problem.
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Banelord_FF posted:
arekthorn posted:
That was in 2005... HERP DE DERP
Really, now you are blaming the Hero Engine which was unfinished in 2005 as the source of your problems?
The problem is more likely one that is a PEBKAC.
You bow up when someone suggests you start adjusting your settings to see if you can determine what is causing the problem, you want Bioware to fix your problem when in reality the problem is with your system and since there is an infinite number of hardware combinations, until you start troubleshooting it and providing more information to Bioware there is no way they can even address your problem.
um yeah sent them install logs dxdiag reports followed all their advice.
i am halfway playble now but I never break 30-35 fps, constant high cpu usage, temps running on the high end.
go take a look at their customer service forums every other post is about the fps issue, this is software driven, there to many customers who are having the same issues after 1.02 went live.
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Fancy logic won't work with Sith.
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Itab posted:
Fancy logic won't work with Sith.
for all you non believers take a look for your self
BW has issues right now
http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=11
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Sith_Mauler posted:
Itab posted:
Fancy logic won't work with Sith.
for all you non believers take a look for your self
BW has issues right now
http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=11
Holy crap, a Customer Service forum has posts about problems. You just discovered something groundbreaking here.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
Itab posted:
Fancy logic won't work with Sith.
for all you non believers take a look for your self
BW has issues right now
http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=11
Mind = blown
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Did you forget to set your GPU to max 3D mode Sith?
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really how hard it is it to believe that a EA owned studio put out a crap product?
and another issue the hero engine has two sets of audio coding software and neither are no longer supported by any new operating system newer than xp.
xp was the last.
so really you want to build the next gen mmo but uses a single threaded engine, that has software that is no longer supported by windows.
did they not think that it wouldnt cause issues when you are using software that os developers dont even consider anymore?
really who tries to game on a single core cpu anymore or uses windows xp.
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LOL @ the crying
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I got 9 days left until my free playtime runs out, after that I am done unless they can fix the issue.
real smart spend millions on voice acting but go cheap on the game engine/
brilliant
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I got 9 days left until my free playtime runs out, after that I am done unless they can fix the issue.
real smart spend millions on voice acting but go cheap on the game engine/
brilliant
Hey Sith, one of your other posts had a reply that sounded like the fix but nobody posted after it so maybe you didnt see... I will repost it here
Motar98 posted:
found the solution
WORKAROUND FOR NVIDIA CARDS:
-Download Nvidia Inspector
-Select the star wars: old republic profile
-Change the "FPS Limit" under "common" to 60, or any FPS of your choice.
has something to do with vsync
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I ma just very annoyed that I tore my computer apart checking cooling etc, even spent a $120 for a new cooling loop for troubleshooting, plus the reformat/reinstalls etc.......
And it turns out the game has optimization issues after patch 1.02?
Is it to hard to say "Hey guys our developers messed something up with the patch."
So people like me wouldnt flip out and tear our machines apart trying to figure out the problem.
Hell if I had a older computer I would've went and bought a new computer.
I can understand breaking something when patching but to have super horrible customer service or the lack of customer service, that is the part that really perturbs me.
I mean really who wants to do business with a company that marginalizes its customers?
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The Fix Sith, did you do it?
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The Fix Sith, did you do it?
I will after work and class.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
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The Fix Sith, did you do it?
I will after work and class.
OK man, fingers crossed on it working
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like i said in one of your other rant threads...Champions Online did the same thing.
no walk through, no explanation no nothing other than an email of "Game requirements for online games change."
i was pissed, and i quit.
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