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So much for maintaining the illusion that this Huntsman guy was above that particular kind of fray.
The End Run posted:
YouTube stats show that Huntsman’s official website was the first website to post the ridiculous, anonymously created “China Jon†video immediately after it was uploaded, yet Huntsman and the corporate media blame Ron Paul supporters for its creation and call on Paul himself to disown it. Meanwhile, Huntman uses it as a means to play the victim and paint himself as a cosmopolitan hero, with full media cooperation.
January 6, 2012
If you thought it would be impossible for Jon Huntsman and the Establishment media to stoop any lower than they already have in their attempts to marginalize and discredit Ron Paul, you thought wrong.
Just last week, Huntsman’s campaign released a “tacky, glib ‘Twilight Zone’ attack ad in a desperate bid to steal Ron Paul voters“, in the words of Infowars.com’s Paul Joseph Watson.
Now, just days later, a ridiculous, pathetic joke of a video has been posted to YouTube entitled “John Huntsman’s Valuesâ€. The one minute video, which was posted two days ago (Jan 4), features clips of Huntsman speaking Mandarin, images of him with his adopted Chinese and Indian daughters, and Photoshopped images mixing Huntsman’s likeness with that of Mao Zedong. (Huntsman was formerly a U.S. Ambassador to China.) The video and images are interspersed with asinine captions questioning Huntsman’s faith and “American Valuesâ€, referencing his adopted daughters, and calling him “The Manchurian Candidateâ€.
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PS: In case there is any question; Yes the Paul campaign wants whomever created and sponsored the ad to take it down. The Paul campaign doesn't know who put it up and is still assuming that it was a wayward Paul supporter, but would also like the media to do their part in finding out such information.
http://youtu.be/A3psK7sgzG8
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I'm not a Huntsman fan at all but this was a low blow. Whoever made it should be ashamed. I'm not sure how people can twist that into an attack on Ron Paul. Kind of lame. Huntsman is the victim here and any attempt to say otherwise is almost as bad as the first smear.
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
I'm not a Huntsman fan at all but this was a low blow. Whoever made it should be ashamed. I'm not sure how people can twist that into an attack on Ron Paul. Kind of lame. Huntsman is the victim here and any attempt to say otherwise is almost as bad as the first smear.
Huntsman is the victim???
Yeah and the raper is the victim and the rapee is just getting free sex...
Eff you are one dumb SoB...
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So it's the Paulista's position that Huntsman made a fake video discrediting himself, then posted it on YouTube to blame it on Ron Paul's supporters...and their proof is that Huntsman linked it to his own website really quickly?
Some days you could almost forget that the truthers are Ron Paul's Royal Guard. Today isn't one of those days apparently.
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So it's the Paulista's position that Huntsman made a fake video discrediting himself, then posted it on YouTube to blame it on Ron Paul's supporters? Wow, you guys are dumb AND paranoid.
Do you know how to read? It isn't the paulista's position, it's reality...
It was first posted on Hunstman site...
You think a Ron Paul supporter made it, hacked into Huntsman's site (without leaving a trace), and released it from there???
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So it's the Paulista's position that Huntsman made a fake video discrediting himself...
No, you have this fundamentally wrong as the bolded word indicates. The video doesn't "discredit" Huntsman, it smears him with demagoguery. The typical & appropriate reaction to a smear is to side with the person smeared.
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EDIT.
Apparently it was all done by Huntsman and his campaign in an attempt to make Ron Paul and his supports look bad. Guess Hunstman is a sore looser.
It's a shame this kind of tripe gets any play what so ever and Hunstmans daughter should be ashamed of themselves.
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Ron Paul is a madman I would make an attack ad against him too!
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Nobody doubles down on quite like Ron Paul devotees.
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Everyone was totally attacking each other not Romney this debate. Romney did great standing up to the moderator. Showed he has backbone. I think that in this debate the people who did the best were Romney and Santorum
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Fox slammed Paul for it and said that it's time for him to start taking responsibility for what his supporters say and do.
Somehow I don't see Fox taking responsibility for anything one of their viewers might say/do. In fact, I think they had a major meltdown when the left was blaming them and calling for them to take responsibility when what's-her-name in Arizona took a /head_shot from that bald crazy guy.
It's pretty plain to see that the government and left and right media are all afraid of Ron Paul, which tells me he is doing something right.
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
Huntsman is the victim here
You were dropped on your head as a child, weren't you?
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If you really believe that the Huntsman campaign put this out there in order to make Ron Paul look bad, please sterilize yourself immediately. You're polluting the gene pool for the rest of us.
Just think about it for a second...you actually believe that someone from the Huntsman campaign (the guy who is dead last in the polls) posted a video under the name "NHLiberty4Paul" that maligned their own candidate, just so they could go after Paul...the guy who's third place in the polls and whose followers are obviously too crazy to be persuaded to leave. What's more, your only proof is that the Huntsman campaign linked to it first, thereby relying on logical premise of "He who smelt it, dealt it".
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Koneg posted:
Fist_de_Yuma posted:
Huntsman is the victim here
You were dropped on your head as a child, weren't you?
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Neither of these men will be getting the nomination and thus are irrelevant.
You can either vote for Obama (in case you missed it the first time around) and tell your grandkids you voted for the first black president or
vote for Mitt and tell your grandkids you voted for the first mormon. Either way its a win. 
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Nobody doubles down on quite like Ron Paul devotees.
Nobody huh?
Not one other group ringing a crazy bell for you at all Garth?
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If you really believe that the Huntsman campaign put this out there in order to make Ron Paul look bad, please sterilize yourself immediately. You're polluting the gene pool for the rest of us.
Just think about it for a second...you actually believe that someone from the Huntsman campaign (the guy who is dead last in the polls) posted a video under the name "NHLiberty4Paul" that maligned their own candidate, just so they could go after Paul...the guy who's third place in the polls and whose followers are obviously too crazy to be persuaded to leave. What's more, your only proof is that the Huntsman campaign linked to it first, thereby relying on logical premise of "He who smelt it, dealt it".
Research it yourself - it's got his daughters tags all over it and the Hunstman campaign gave the heads up a few days before they launched it.
Why don't you do the human species a favor and sterilize yourself?
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A Ron Paul supporter couldn't possibly be a racist lunatic. IT MUST BE A CONSPIRACY!
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Research it yourself - it's got his daughters tags all over it and the Hunstman campaign gave the heads up a few days before they launched it.
by the logic, and i use that term generously, you'd have just as strong a case to say someone was trying to frame the daughters, but i can see how that form of cognitive bias would be less appealing to acolytes of the good doctor.
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Research it yourself - it's got his daughters tags all over it and the Hunstman campaign gave the heads up a few days before they launched it.
by the logic, and i use that term generously, you'd have just as strong a case to say someone was trying to frame the daughters, but i can see how that form of cognitive bias would be less appealing to acolytes of the good doctor.
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Research it yourself - it's got his daughters tags all over it and the Hunstman campaign gave the heads up a few days before they launched it.
by the logic, and i use that term generously, you'd have just as strong a case to say someone was trying to frame the daughters, but i can see how that form of cognitive bias would be less appealing to acolytes of the good doctor.
So a Ron Paul supporter forced Hunstman to declare that his campaign was going to release a video and then a few days later forced his campaign to release said video?
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If you really believe that the Huntsman campaign put this out there in order to make Ron Paul look bad, please sterilize yourself immediately. You're polluting the gene pool for the rest of us.
Just think about it for a second...you actually believe that someone from the Huntsman campaign (the guy who is dead last in the polls) posted a video under the name "NHLiberty4Paul" that maligned their own candidate
This is why it's called a False Flag attack you dimbulb.
It's designed to make Ron Paul supporters look like dumbasses. Someone forgot to inform the Huntsman campaign that they're perfectly capable of doing that all on their own, as this thread is evidence.
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It's pretty sad that given all of the evidence, it's the 'status quo' people that 'think' they are the smart ones and they try to hard to belittle everyone else...
It's like bizarro world...
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It's pretty sad that given all of the evidence, it's the 'status quo' people that 'think' they are the smart ones and they try to hard to belittle everyone else...
It's like bizarro world...
And it's pretty sad that you think YouTube stats showing that Huntsman's campaign found the video the day it was posted counts as "evidence".
I will retract one part of my earlier argument...seems as though Huntsman is in 3rd in NH and RP is in 2nd. Edging out RP would be a pretty big win for Huntsman, so there does seem to be at least a motive at this point. That said, they still either would have been extremely stupid to try this, or incredible geniuses by predicting that the RP Brigade would show their moronic Truther roots. It still seems far more plausible to me that this was posted by some dumbass not affiliated with anyone's campaign, but who likes the fact that Ron Paul is a little crazy like he is. The fact that RP supporters are so certain that this must have been a conspiracy against them is really somewhat baffling. At least for the 9/11 movement you guys like to trot out a few so-called experts to parrot your opinions. This is based upon YouTube stats and some comment that the campaign made a week ago? I really don't know what that comment was, but unless it was "Next week we'll find a video from a racist Ron Paul supporter", I don't think it's going to be relevant.
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ZigmundZag posted:
reesescups posted:
It's pretty sad that given all of the evidence, it's the 'status quo' people that 'think' they are the smart ones and they try to hard to belittle everyone else...
It's like bizarro world...
And it's pretty sad that you think YouTube stats showing that Huntsman's campaign found the video the day it was posted counts as "evidence".
Do you understand the word 'ALL', or does that confuse you?
Sure Sure pick one piece and take it out of context and blah blah blah...
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By all means take your time, read the entire article - including the updates...
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Ron Paul Brigades posted:
They are so much edgier and more independent thinkers than all of the sheeple.
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They think they are so much edgier and more independent thinkers than all of the sheeple.
Fixted!
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I thinkm Huntsman has a decent shot of surging in the polls. The voters are clearly hoping from non Romney candidate to non Romney candidate and all the others are so putrid that the voters are destined to hop again. First it was Perry then Cain then Newt then Santorum. Next it will be Huntsman and there just isn't that much to hate about him. He is not exciting either so it will be a good race.
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