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Topic: Should people want to be alive?

Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	There's no guarantee of anything in life. It's possible, and probably common, for people to experience far more pain and misery in their lives than happiness. So, why do we act as though being unhappy with life is an unnatural condition that should be corrected? -----signature----- (none)
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Corky_Aloof Posts: 10,689 Registered: Jun 2, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,854 User ID: 929,737	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	This is one the many nonsensical modes of thought one can conclude when you take god out of the equation. -----signature----- >
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	What about people barely alive connected to the Outpost for life support? Should they want to live? -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Anyone can want to live for any reason I suppose, but I'm not convinced anyone should want to live. -----signature----- (none)
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	The problem with the US economy is all from having too many non productive old people -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate Posts: 50,658 Registered: Feb 13, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 48,530 User ID: 645,124	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Everything is in how you look at it. By many standards, my life sucks. Not by my standards however. Sure, I have very low expectations, no dreams for the future, and exist like a lump of lichen sucking up polluted air and excreting slime...but I happen to think my slime is awesome and the world is a better place for my having made it. -----signature----- (none)
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Well Ptilk by everyone elses standards my life sucks too but I like it. Its much better now than before even with a horrible job I might get fired from. Life is good. I'm glad to be alive. -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate Posts: 50,658 Registered: Feb 13, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 48,530 User ID: 645,124	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Good for you man. Glad ya are too. It's all in how you look at it. -----signature----- (none)
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Glad you alive too Ptilk. You have a great, refreshing outlook on life. -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I think a lot of people just say that because they don't want to face the truth. Life certainly can be enjoyable, but it is not fair. Some people will enjoy life more than others, and some no matter how much they want to be happy never will be. There are people who will never be loved, or successful or anything else they want for themselves. They will spend their entire lives longing for something that will never come, and even in the final moments cling to an existence they don't enjoy out of fear and regret. It's kind of pathetic really. Why not go ahead and embrace the inevitable? They could save themselves a lot of pain. -----signature----- (none)
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	So true and so human. I've never loved or been really loved in a romantic way and my life is spent getting ready for something which never really happens. Life is not fair and life is full of striving, unrealized dreams and disappointments. I think I'm happy but others probably have a different opinion. Some of my customers really like me and others loath me. I'm the same person. The ones that loath me make my days a lot harder -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar Posts: 40,411 Registered: Mar 1, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,378 User ID: 1,032,223	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I am not seeing the point of this thread. Who wants to die? -----signature----- We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. Drill Anwar! Kapie Drevid in Tanks
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I thought I wanted to die years ago but when I went to try to secretly do that deed I stopped because I realized that instead of death I wanted escape from my current circumstances and I figured death was the ONLY way out. Still I didnt really escape until my father passed away freeing me -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar Posts: 40,411 Registered: Mar 1, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,378 User ID: 1,032,223	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Then you are/were mentally ill. -----signature----- We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. Drill Anwar! Kapie Drevid in Tanks
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IMHO Title: Official Outpost Greeter Posts: 30,884 Registered: Nov 1, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 28,020 User ID: 490,177	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Allstarslacker posted: I think a lot of people just say that because they don't want to face the truth. Life certainly can be enjoyable, but it is not fair. Some people will enjoy life more than others, and some no matter how much they want to be happy never will be. There are people who will never be loved, or successful or anything else they want for themselves. They will spend their entire lives longing for something that will never come, and even in the final moments cling to an existence they don't enjoy out of fear and regret. It's kind of pathetic really. Why not go ahead and embrace the inevitable? They could save themselves a lot of pain. 1-800-273-8255 -----signature----- You're Right ~ Koneg He's [Manegarm] like the Fred Phelps of atheism. ~Bubbledude many of you are in the Republican boat, aka the ship of fools. ~Modeeb We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Why is that automatically considered mentally ill? It seems to me that some people should want to die. -----signature----- (none)
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	It is mentally ill. People dont really want to die. They want escape and release from their situation. The problem is when people are clinically depressed they get tunnel vision and they cant see that there are many ways to escape with the best one being getting professional help and medication. Every living creature wants to live, grow, and reproduce including humans. -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar Posts: 40,411 Registered: Mar 1, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,378 User ID: 1,032,223	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Because there is no heaven. There is only dirt in the ground. It's mentally ill to want that. It's mentally ill to believe in a heaven. -----signature----- We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. Drill Anwar! Kapie Drevid in Tanks
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I agree what they want is really a release from their situation, but there are people who will never find that release. So, what are they to do? -----signature----- (none)
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate Posts: 50,658 Registered: Feb 13, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 48,530 User ID: 645,124	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Someday in that not too far future (hopefully not the too near future either), I'll be mud again. I'm not looking forward to it, but I'm not crazy with fear about it happening either. I'm enjoying the hell out of myself till it's no longer possible, then I'll turn off and that will be it. I think deep thoughts (just like Mr. Handy), watch some porn, get drunk once or twice a month, flirt with women much too young for me (even though I hardly ever get them to flirt back), talk politics and religion with other idiots that like to talk about stupid crap like that, buy junk I don't need and never take it out of the box after it's delivered, play old video games, see this chick who blows me in return for compensation a couple of times a week, and once or twice a year take a trip to some godforsaken hell hole that looked really cool on the internet and on TV. That's not being a rock star, but it's better than being mud. Right now anyways. -----signature----- (none)
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Well I personally believe humanity is an irrational species. Religion serves good purposes in that it helps be the glue that holds society together, encourages morality, and most importantly helps to be an emotional cushion to help people better deal with death and suffering in the world -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar Posts: 40,411 Registered: Mar 1, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,378 User ID: 1,032,223	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	You pull yourself up. You seek help. You push on. -----signature----- We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. Drill Anwar! Kapie Drevid in Tanks
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Tych2 posted: Because there is no heaven. There is only dirt in the ground. It's mentally ill to want that. It's mentally ill to believe in a heaven. Is it mentally ill to put a suffering animal out of it's misery? Some people are never going to find relief. There may not be a Heaven, but that doesn't mean they should have to live through Hell. -----signature----- (none)
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Mastara Posts: 8,982 Registered: Dec 29, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,312 User ID: 1,011,569	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	This is one the many nonsensical modes of thought one can conclude when you take god out of the equation. This. -----signature----- Boooooommmm Heeeaaaddddshhhhooooottttt! http://www.carellaross.com/img/truth_its_the_new_hate_speech.jpg Mastatheimposta - 10L2 SB Merlin
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar Posts: 40,411 Registered: Mar 1, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,378 User ID: 1,032,223	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Allstarslacker posted: Tych2 posted: Because there is no heaven. There is only dirt in the ground. It's mentally ill to want that. It's mentally ill to believe in a heaven. Is it mentally ill to put a suffering animal out of it's misery? So now you are changing it from you killing yourself to you killing something? -----signature----- We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. Drill Anwar! Kapie Drevid in Tanks
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Allstarslacker posted: I agree what they want is really a release from their situation, but there are people who will never find that release. So, what are they to do? The only real release from their situation involves humbling themselves and getting professional help and help from their friends and relatives first. Then they must do what it takes to get healthy again. I think my brain is still crazy in fact I think it was always crazy but now I'm not feeling the dark, hopeless depression I was feeling years ago -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Tych2 posted: You pull yourself up. You seek help. You push on. Exactly. This is the solution. -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate Posts: 50,658 Registered: Feb 13, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 48,530 User ID: 645,124	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	It's all in how you look at it. If someones life is so bad they can't stand it, they shouldn't. That doesn't mean ending life itself, it means ending the way their life currently is. Somewhere in the world there is a place full of people that person has never met who would probably enjoy talking to them about stuff. Someone in that place probably owns a company that needs that person to do stuff for it so they will pay them in return for doing it. There are probably apartments there that need tenets, stores that need shoppers, girls that need to be ogled, urinals that need to be pissed in......all that stuff. A plane ride, or a bus trip, or even a bummed ride from someone off the side of the road and next thing you know....that person is in that place. With all the old crap from the old lifestyle gone, and all kinds of new crap to discover. -----signature----- (none)
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Does it work 100% of the time? I have a hard time believing it does. Some of those people are just going to suffer even more before finally finding relief when they eventually die. -----signature----- (none)
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IMHO Title: Official Outpost Greeter Posts: 30,884 Registered: Nov 1, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 28,020 User ID: 490,177	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Tych2 posted: Because there is no heaven. There is only dirt in the ground. It's mentally ill to want that. It's mentally ill to believe in a heaven. Wow, how depressing is that. In every culture in the world there is a belief in God, gods, or some kind of higher power. There is a study that proposes humans are 'wired' to believe in god. That there is a part of the brain set up to believe in god. For you to believe "It's mentally ill to believe in a heaven", might be a telling sign that you are not in a fit mental condition. -----signature----- You're Right ~ Koneg He's [Manegarm] like the Fred Phelps of atheism. ~Bubbledude many of you are in the Republican boat, aka the ship of fools. ~Modeeb We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I personally believe people are wired to believe in God, mysticism, and religion. Humans are very spiritual beings. -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar Posts: 40,411 Registered: Mar 1, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,378 User ID: 1,032,223	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	IMHO posted: Tych2 posted: Because there is no heaven. There is only dirt in the ground. It's mentally ill to want that. It's mentally ill to believe in a heaven. Wow, how depressing is that. Sometimes the truth isn't all roses and song to people. IMHO posted: For you to believe "It's mentally ill to believe in a heaven", might be a telling sign that you are not in a fit mental condition. I am not the one putting my eggs in a fantasy. Don't project your weakness onto me. I hope I am wrong. -----signature----- We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. Drill Anwar! Kapie Drevid in Tanks
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Tych2 posted: Allstarslacker posted: Tych2 posted: Because there is no heaven. There is only dirt in the ground. It's mentally ill to want that. It's mentally ill to believe in a heaven. Is it mentally ill to put a suffering animal out of it's misery? So now you are changing it from you killing yourself to you killing something? No. I'm asking why can we accept that death is preferable to living for animals, but not for people? -----signature----- (none)
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar Posts: 40,411 Registered: Mar 1, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,378 User ID: 1,032,223	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Allstar I am giving you my opinion. I don't think death is EVER preferable unless you are in such terrible physical pain that you cannot escape it no matter what drug they give you. -----signature----- We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart. Drill Anwar! Kapie Drevid in Tanks
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate Posts: 50,658 Registered: Feb 13, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 48,530 User ID: 645,124	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	You don't put a dog down if it's depressed, isn't getting laid enough, or doesn't like it's dog house. If a human being is in such poor physical shape that continuing to exist will only result in continued physical agony....then it's that humans right to decide if they are going to continue or not. If they are upset they didn't grow up to be a rock star or a porn star or jesus or something, you tell them to stop being a dick and enjoy what they have or change what they have. If that doesn't work you medicate them and make them see people that will help them fix their brains, because their brains are currently broken. -----signature----- (none)
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I can understand you thinking that. I have a hard time thinking it though. Without a greater purpose I can't see the point of life unless you are enjoying it. I'm not convinced life is special just because it's life. Or that you have to hold on to it. -----signature----- (none)
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reesescups Title: //Captain America Posts: 47,567 Registered: May 26, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 40,845 User ID: 805,977	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Allstarslacker posted: Without a greater purpose I can't see the point of life unless you are enjoying it. And that greater purpose is what you make it to be. You are the director and boss of your life, make it so! If you have to leave behind everything you find miserable, then so be it... You are not obligated to live a miserable existence just because of XYZ. Make yourself a new, start over as the person you want to be, with the people in your life that you want to be in your life. Allstarslacker posted: I'm not convinced life is special just because it's life. Or that you have to hold on to it. Of course life in and of itself isn't special - thinking it is makes you dumb, stupid and ignorant. You have to make your life special. -----signature----- "man up, you wimp." - Groucho48 "I'm not racist at all." - dae_trist
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Life is special. Look at the other planets of the solar system. Where is all the life? -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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eodoll Posts: 17,153 Registered: Feb 14, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,943 User ID: 645,592	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Everything is relative... Most people dont want to feel unhappy... So they seek help if its available. Ultimately should is strange, the fact is people that are unhappy are not happy to be unhappy. -----signature----- (none)
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	__Bonk__ posted: Life is special. Look at the other planets of the solar system. Where is all the life? The rarity of something only matters if there is something there to appraise it. If life ceased to exist no one would miss it. -----signature----- (none)
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MatrexMistwalker Posts: ???? Registered: ???? Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 0 User ID: 0	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	You have to figure out what makes you happy and do it, I have friends that make a lot more money than me but hate their job and their life in general... the only time they seem happy is the false happiness of being drunk. I find my happiness in the small things of life, if I land a great job fine if I keep the one I have now till retirement thats fine to cause I can pay my bills and have something left over for vacations and ill be set in retirement.. (as long as the govt doesnt collapse) -----signature-----
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Abaddon_Ambrosius Title: Retired Theurgist TL Posts: 25,187 Registered: Dec 21, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 25,057 User ID: 568,022	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	"People are hard-wired to believe in God" There's a massive difference between 'God' and 'Heaven' that I trust, even on the Outpost, I don't need to explain. There's a pretty divergent set of views on reincarnation/cycles vs an ultimate end vs infinite lives/dimensions. There's also a pretty divergent set of views about 'God' as the non-sentient power that binds... sentient being that tests... sentient being that loves... etc. Many of these beliefs do not include some 'magical block of cheese' at the end of the cosmic maze that makes all your boo boos better. -----signature----- In the immortal words of Socrates - "I drank what?" "God you guys suck at the internet - how can you fail to locate porn?!" - Eternal_Midnight "Knowing means nothing." - Fat-badger
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Azure-TheBlueOne Title: Made in Alaska Posts: 7,936 Registered: Feb 24, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,754 User ID: 773,760	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I don't think the vast majority of people are suffering anywhere near something like a horse with a broken neck and two snapped legs, writhing on the ground trying to move still and obviously in tortured confused pain. You seem to be approaching this subject like a lot of people are, constantly. Maybe this guy will cheer you up Allstar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4uG2kSdd-4 -----signature----- "When the government scares people into thinking it must take their liberties away, and the people let the Government do it. They are sheep." - Judge Andrew Napolitano http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Its very sad when you think death is the only way out. Most people when they try to commit suicide have their bodies rebel against this and they want to change their minds but its impossible and they die. -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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the_great_intex Title: This is what cool looks like Posts: 30,622 Registered: Jun 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,363 User ID: 692,453	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	wanting to be alive is irrelevant -----signature----- Only those who dare to fail greatly, can ever achieve greatly In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity The only thing in life achieved without effort is failure Time Circuits... On. Flux Capacitor.... fluxxing.
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Being alive is better than being dead. I dont think that people who want death really know what they are wanting -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Azure-TheBlueOne posted: I don't think the vast majority of people are suffering anywhere near something like a horse with a broken neck and two snapped legs, writhing on the ground trying to move still and obviously in tortured confused pain. You seem to be approaching this subject like a lot of people are, constantly. Maybe this guy will cheer you up Allstar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4uG2kSdd-4 I don't really see what that guy has to do with anything. He wants to be alive. Which I have no problem with. The question posed was: Should people want to be alive? I still haven't seen anything that has convinced me people should want to be alive. -----signature----- (none)
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Azure-TheBlueOne Title: Made in Alaska Posts: 7,936 Registered: Feb 24, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,754 User ID: 773,760	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Why shouldn't they? I believe life is happier than it is unhappy for the vast majority of people. -----signature----- "When the government scares people into thinking it must take their liberties away, and the people let the Government do it. They are sheep." - Judge Andrew Napolitano http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	People want to be alive because its instinctive. They overule their instincts and kill theirselves even though their bodies to the very end say, "I WANT TO LIVE" Clearly they needed mental health help instead -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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Allstarslacker Posts: 9,760 Registered: May 23, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,653 User ID: 1,140,793	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Azure-TheBlueOne posted: Why shouldn't they? I believe life is happier than it is unhappy for the vast majority of people. I haven't said anyone shouldn't want to live. I just asked why people should want to live. It's not like you're going to regret killing yourself. -----signature----- (none)
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eodoll Posts: 17,153 Registered: Feb 14, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,943 User ID: 645,592	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Some people want to die - thats natural. Life is the longest thing we do and none of us know what comes afterward. -----signature----- (none)
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Azure-TheBlueOne Title: Made in Alaska Posts: 7,936 Registered: Feb 24, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,754 User ID: 773,760	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Allstarslacker posted: I haven't said anyone shouldn't want to live. I just asked why people should want to live. It's not like you're going to regret killing yourself. Well, I wanted to die back in high school, but I'm quite glad I didn't. I don't know that I would've regretted, but I would've missed out on really living. Nobody can really tell you why people should want to live though, because those reasons would be as varied as the bodies that contain them. -----signature----- "When the government scares people into thinking it must take their liberties away, and the people let the Government do it. They are sheep." - Judge Andrew Napolitano http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Its clear its mental illness if a person wants to die. This is the ONLY life you get No rest button on life -----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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eodoll Posts: 17,153 Registered: Feb 14, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,943 User ID: 645,592	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I think every single person feels they want to die at some point. Do we all vocalize it? No. Is it a serious feeling? No. Its a natural feeling though - the greatest escape possible. In other words, its not a mental illness. Youd be mentally ill if that feeling never popped up in your mind in your entire life. We go through a range of emotions - this is one of them. -----signature----- (none)
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reesescups Title: //Captain America Posts: 47,567 Registered: May 26, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 40,845 User ID: 805,977	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Azure-TheBlueOne posted: Why shouldn't they? I believe life is happier than it is unhappy for the vast majority of people. Do you have a context for this, or is it a human generality? -----signature----- "man up, you wimp." - Groucho48 "I'm not racist at all." - dae_trist
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Azure-TheBlueOne Title: Made in Alaska Posts: 7,936 Registered: Feb 24, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,754 User ID: 773,760	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	reesescups posted: Azure-TheBlueOne posted: Why shouldn't they? I believe life is happier than it is unhappy for the vast majority of people. Do you have a context for this, or is it a human generality? Well, I believe it's a human generality to enjoy life. A simple life isn't necessarily unhappy. And just because one aspect causes unhappiness, doesn't mean there aren't several other avenues that a person is quite pleased with. I think only short stints in most people's lives are unhappy. Certainly there are outliers, as in everything, but I don't think those should be the focus of a discussion like this. The only context I have for this belief though is the people I have met and witnessed in my life, in various settings, from farms to the military. -----signature----- "When the government scares people into thinking it must take their liberties away, and the people let the Government do it. They are sheep." - Judge Andrew Napolitano http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
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Modeeb Title: A Ghost In The Machine Posts: 47,242 Registered: Apr 19, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 39,997 User ID: 670,238	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Meaning-understanding, not necessarily happiness is the mode of being I cultivate. It is called Realizing. However any predicate you adopt unconditionally will reify or harden-change into something else. Therefore, I will qualify almost all statements surrounding Truth, with "but that is not it." -----signature----- "What is here is there. What is not here is nowhere." Vishvasara Tantra "Ever tried, Ever Failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better. Samuel Beckett
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NuEM Posts: 15,394 Registered: Mar 2, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 13,662 User ID: 900,449	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	If you want to die and then something in your life changes and you don't want to die anymore then you didn't really want to die in the first place. You wanted your life to change. -----signature----- It's time we became European: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VzdZ1i8YM8 The Federalist's Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz70fFZHEhw
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reesescups Title: //Captain America Posts: 47,567 Registered: May 26, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 40,845 User ID: 805,977	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	A life changing event is nothing if not death and rebirth... -----signature----- "man up, you wimp." - Groucho48 "I'm not racist at all." - dae_trist
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eodoll Posts: 17,153 Registered: Feb 14, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,943 User ID: 645,592	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	i like this quote from demian "The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. " -----signature----- (none)
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Sea_of_inK Posts: 3,238 Registered: Oct 18, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,898 User ID: 978,446	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Yes, people should want to be alive. It is quite unpleasant wanting to be dead. Why ever choose that? -----signature----- http://www.fairvote.org/reforms/
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Halloweve Posts: 3,912 Registered: Mar 6, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 3,894 User ID: 901,645	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I don't fear death at all, but I would do almost anything to live if faced with a life or death situation. -----signature----- (none)
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IMHO Title: Official Outpost Greeter Posts: 30,884 Registered: Nov 1, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 28,020 User ID: 490,177	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	Allstarslacker posted: Should people want to be alive? If you try sometime you just might find you get what you need. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPS9MpRLCd0 -----signature----- You're Right ~ Koneg He's [Manegarm] like the Fred Phelps of atheism. ~Bubbledude many of you are in the Republican boat, aka the ship of fools. ~Modeeb We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls Posts: 37,872 Registered: Mar 22, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 26,537 User ID: 1,125,840	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	I have never felt like I wanted to die. not for one millisecond of my entire life. I think all of you are emo pussies. FYI -----signature----- Another word for expensive is successful.
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__Bonk__ Posts: 53,947 Registered: Jul 25, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,339 User ID: 1,364,654	Subject: Should people want to be alive?
	-----signature----- I keep my eyes fixed on the sun! A change in feeling is a change in destiny.
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