Groucho48 posted:

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Saving the U.S. car industry and thousands of jobs. Another great victory for Obama that has right wingers wailing and gnashing their teeth.

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Groucho48 posted:

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Saving the U.S. car industry and thousands of jobs.

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Tipztoe posted:

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Groucho48 posted:

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Saving the U.S. car industry and thousands of jobs. Another great victory for Obama that has right wingers wailing and gnashing their teeth.

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I'm independent. and don't mind giving credit where credit is due, but this was a clear failure.

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Special-Fred posted:

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Tipztoe posted:

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Groucho48 posted:

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Saving the U.S. car industry and thousands of jobs. Another great victory for Obama that has right wingers wailing and gnashing their teeth.

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I'm independent. and don't mind giving credit where credit is due, but this was a clear failure.

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Don't mind grucho, he's so far to the left he makes rush limbaugh look moderate.

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paulg_68 posted:

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Government Motors only sold 7671 Chevy Volts

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Allstarslacker posted:

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Ummmm Fred, to make Rush Limbaugh look moderate he'd have to be further right than Rush.

I get what you're trying to say, but you really aren't saying it. Your poor command of language and inability to understand relative positions on the political spectrum have left you, once again, looking like a buffoon.

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Sea_of_inK posted:

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Conservatives want America in the worst economic shape it can be so they can be really really angry at Obama

Their commitment to shipping cash to the middle east is harder to understand, especially when that is typically where they like to vent their angst. Ironically, this conservative quality is likely to bring us to another war in the middle east eventually, at which point sales of the volt with go through the roof with the gas prices.

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Friarspam posted:

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Sea_of_inK posted:

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Conservatives want America in the worst economic shape it can be so they can be really really angry at Obama

Their commitment to shipping cash to the middle east is harder to understand, especially when that is typically where they like to vent their angst. Ironically, this conservative quality is likely to bring us to another war in the middle east eventually, at which point sales of the volt with go through the roof with the gas prices.

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Uh, conservatives wanted to "drill baby, drill" remember? Like as in...get more domestic oil.

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GrymmDAOC posted:

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Those crazy conservatives also want to build infrastructure so the USA can get oil from a friendly northern neighbour who will use their earnings to buy american imports.

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Scarne posted:

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The USA is a net fuel exporter.

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paulg_68 posted:

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Scarne posted:

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The USA is a net fuel exporter.

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Uh, no.

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paulg_68 posted:

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Shenanigans!

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_wkly_dc_nus-z00_mbblpd_w.htm

We're importing 8-9 million barrels per day more than we are exporting. It's about a 4-1 ratio of imports to exports.

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Friarspam posted:

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Sea_of_inK posted:

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Conservatives want America in the worst economic shape it can be so they can be really really angry at Obama

Their commitment to shipping cash to the middle east is harder to understand, especially when that is typically where they like to vent their angst. Ironically, this conservative quality is likely to bring us to another war in the middle east eventually, at which point sales of the volt with go through the roof with the gas prices.

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Uh, conservatives wanted to "drill baby, drill" remember? Like as in...get more domestic oil.

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Sea_of_inK posted:

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The ones who have a reason do dislike the idea are the Exxons and Cheverons of the world, invested deeply in oil financially. Oil to them is just cash they don't have yet, they feed off our addiction. Alternative fuels that don't transfer American wealth to the middle east is good for all of us, unfortunately the right has some of you convinced otherwise.

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General Motors says it will add 2,500 jobs at a Detroit-area plant that now makes the Chevrolet Volt electric car.
The company plans to invest $69 million in the Detroit-Hamtramck (Ham-TRAM-ick) factory and add two shifts of workers so the plant can make the new Chevrolet Malibu midsize car and the Impala large sedan.
Not all the jobs will be new hires. GM has about 1,300 laid-off workers waiting to be recalled in the U.S.
GM announced on May 10 that it would create or keep about 4,000 jobs by investing $2 billion in 17 factories in eight states.
So far the company has announced expansion plans in Bowling Green, Ky., Toledo, Ohio, and Flint and Bay City, Mich.

Groucho48 posted:

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General Motors says it will add 2,500 jobs at a Detroit-area plant that now makes the Chevrolet Volt electric car.
The company plans to invest $69 million in the Detroit-Hamtramck (Ham-TRAM-ick) factory and add two shifts of workers so the plant can make the new Chevrolet Malibu midsize car and the Impala large sedan.
Not all the jobs will be new hires. GM has about 1,300 laid-off workers waiting to be recalled in the U.S.
GM announced on May 10 that it would create or keep about 4,000 jobs by investing $2 billion in 17 factories in eight states.
So far the company has announced expansion plans in Bowling Green, Ky., Toledo, Ohio, and Flint and Bay City, Mich.

Yeah, what a disaster! Nothing the right hates more than good, solid, middle class union jobs being created.

The horror!

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Groucho48 posted:

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Those jobs benefit the entire economy.

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Groucho48 posted:

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Those jobs benefit the entire economy. As do the jobs created by those jobs. As does the fact that folks getting a paycheck, rather than getting unemployment are a net positive.

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Voodoo-Dahl posted:

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With a starting price of $39,145 the Chevy Volt accounted for $302,352,465 in sales, minimum.

What a horrible failure.

The truth is, GM has been doing pretty well. Thus, all the conservatwat denial of reality threads.

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Voodoo-Dahl posted:

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With a starting price of $39,145 the Chevy Volt accounted for $302,352,465 in sales, minimum.

What a horrible failure.

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Groucho48 posted:

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The Volte was a product of private enterprise.

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__Bonk__ posted:

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Ford is now not selling small trucks anymore.

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__Bonk__ posted:

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GM knew the thing wouldnt work. The evil people who ran GM just threw something together quick to try to please the stupid and I mean stupid politicians in Washington to get a handout

For real viable alternatives look to foreign hybrids.

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__Bonk__ posted:

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Why must you make everything personal IMHO?

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__Bonk__ posted:

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The fact is unions will kill many companies and put them out of business.

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__Bonk__ posted:

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Its no surprise so many companies are outsourcing in order to survive.

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__Bonk__ posted:

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The government gives them all these green regulations and taxes and they have to deal with greey unions. No surprise there are so many American auto plants across the border in Mexico

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__Bonk__ posted:

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Unions make it way more difficult for US companies to compete in a global economy. Also all the regulations, taxes, and green laws make it more difficult too.

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Groucho48 posted:

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Those jobs benefit the entire economy. As do the jobs created by those jobs. As does the fact that folks getting a paycheck, rather than getting unemployment are a net positive.

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