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Its clear this is a sick company I'm working for and potentially evil.
The only thing worse having a bad job is being fired from a bad job. It would be liberating. Wonder if I could get unemployment insurance?
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Yep  for those of us that pay into it there is no shame using it if you need it
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That's why they call it insurance.
When I got fired, threw no fault of my own, I collected unemployment insurance and went to college full time. I was taught to fish, so to speak.
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My job is sooooo bad. The warehouse guys were pointing the finger at me a salesperson for the companys decline. Me a noob to the company.
I worked 15 hours yesterday and drove 260 miles and they give me crap today about me destroying the company
My boss is kindof frosty so who knows. Wish I wasnt so paranoid all the time. 
Well if I got fired it would be for underperforming in sales and not doing certain things up to their standards.
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If you are in sales and actually working 15 hours a day you are doing it wrong.
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Most days are shorter but that day was very long. We have routes we have to follow.
I know I'm not the best but I'm trying. I really think I should look for other work.
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Then look for other work. If you really think you should why arn't you?
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Most days are shorter but that day was very long. We have routes we have to follow.
I know I'm not the best but I'm trying. I really think I should look for other work.
I can't remember what job you have but you are in sales and you have strict routes you have to follow? WTF kind of shit sales job is that. Are you delivering, but they are calling it a sales position?
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You have been with this company what? Five months? Who exactly is accusing you of "destroying the company"? IE what is their position?
How thick is your skin? Think you can tough out their BS?
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I'm delivering. Its mostly a delivery job not a sales job and I drive a small 16,000 pd truck
Its a crap job. In the last three years or so this route has gone through like five people and I'm the latest. I think that I am stupid and I make bad decisions.
Now I bet this company f's me over and fires me.
Its a sick and dying company
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Then look for other work. If the job sux there's no reason to wait until you get fired. It's much easier to get a job while you still have a job than try to convince someone they want to hire you when you're not currently working.
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Then look for other work. If the job sux there's no reason to wait until you get fired. It's much easier to get a job while you still have a job than try to convince someone they want to hire you when you're not currently working.
This.
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Ya I better start looking this weekend. I will never find stability. Its probably because I'm such a weirdo IRL. Some people really like me and others.......
A customer gave me crap today. He wrote check wrong on purpose and I went back to get it fixed and he wrote it wrong again. I finally had to get cash from his employee
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In the last three years or so this route has gone through like five people and I'm the latest.
You may be too hard on yourself given that kind of turn over. Look Bonk, it is just a route job, the more you do your route the more you learn about it, the clients on it and what pitfalls to avoid. A job like that you can have under control within a year if the route isn't too large which yours might be.
Also, since I don't think that you have seen all the seasons yet, you might just be dealing with the most difficult seasons first.
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Bonk, you have to make it a priority to find new work and figure out how to work it into your already hectic schedule. If the company is as crappy as you say it is, they will fire you for cause and they will fight your UI claim. You will of course, eventually win. But the operative word in that sentence is eventually.
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Yes most likely. They are probably working on their case right now. This company is going to F me over and I've been giving them 110% of my time and effort. I just know it!
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So do the bare minimum and use what you have left to look for other work. Pick up the local papers on Sunday. Hit Craigslist for your area. Look at the websites of companies you want to work for.
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If you have a CDL, you should apply to be a bus driver. Best job I ever had was driving buses for a big university.
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I am a bit weird. Kids would really tease me if I was a bus driver
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You are also a bit of a pussy if you wouldn't become a bus driver because kids might tease you.
Kids like a weird bus driver. Just don't tell them you're a single virgin who lives with his cat. That sends the wrong vibe.
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Thats who I am. Weird
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My friends dad does some sort of transportation for a hospital. His job doesn't require any medical training so perhaps you could look into something like that.
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why do you come in here looking for sympathy every couple of weeks?
if youre not happy then quit and stfu.
do you really need internet forums posters to take your side and lend you their sympathy to feel better?
go to scool. learn to fish, as someone else already said. pick up the want ads. check craigslist and monster jobs
get off yer ass and do something about it
sympathy wont fix your situation
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This is my internet forum Sweeny I post here
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and you do realise this is not a group therapy forums, right?
the suicide watch forums are here
go there if you want sympathy or some kind of support
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Ive been posting here much longer than you Sweeny
I dont want to kill myself. I just want to live a normal life before I die
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Ive been posting here much longer than you Sweeny
I dont want to kill myself. I just want to live a normal life before I die
i dont think theres a person left thats been here longer than me.
maybe nanjar
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I was here before there was an Outpost. I was here on the original VN horizons forums when they opened.
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and that still doesnt make this your self help forum or sympathy pool to wallow in
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http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ee5ed10d77/boobies-and-kittens
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They will probably fire me for just cause if they do. I dont think I'm doing everything they want correctly. I'm trying but its tough
If they do that I get no unemployment insurance and I'm screwed
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You are an evil little man arent you Sweeny?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia1UjNBK_3Y
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nice
looks like it took some effort
im flattered
thank you
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I can't help it that's how I picture you in my minds eye.
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see, its the little things like this that really let me know you still care
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see, its the little things like this that really let me know you still care
What would make you think I didn't care? 
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You are working 15hrs a day for 8hrs pay. No way will they fire you. You are probably the lowest paid employee by a huge amount.
Want out? Put in your 8 (maybe 10) and go back to the warehouse, done or not. Let them write you up every day. Keep copies of the writeups, the actual hours you work, and your logbooks.
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You are working 15hrs a day for 8hrs pay. No way will they fire you. You are probably the lowest paid employee by a huge amount.
Want out? Put in your 8 (maybe 10) and go back to the warehouse, done or not. Let them write you up every day. Keep copies of the writeups, the actual hours you work, and your logbooks.
as long as he is salary they can work him as long as they want for as little pay as they want.
salary gets around min wage requirements.
ive been there. ive tested it.
was working 60hrs/wk (10hr days x 6) for $350/wk.
i put in my 40hrs, one week, and didnt show back up till monday.
when i got there my tool box was outside. i loaded it up and headed straight to the unemployment office. i filed for unemployment (which was denied) and i logged a complaint with the labor department for paying less than min wage for that many hours.
the only violations they were found to be breaking was lunch hours. no shop ever make people punch out to take lunch. typically you work with a burger in one hand and a wrench in the other because if you leave youll miss out on a good job or two.
so in the end, unless you are punching out, or otherwise logging your lunch time, they are breaking the law by not allowing you a lunch period.
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He's got DoT regulations to uphold. In order to work those hours he has to be forging logbooks.
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I've was fired at this one company. The manager who fired me said that the reason I was fired was that I was overheard being rude to a important customer of the company. I had to go to an unemployment hearing to prove I was fired 'through no fault of my own'. During the Unemployment hearing my old manager stated for the record in front of the judge that I had called their VIP customer vulgar names.
When it was my turn to defend myself, I had it prearranged for the judge to call this VIP customer. My ex boss had no idea the judge would be using her as a witness. On SPEAKER PHONE the customer went on and on about what a good service she had gotten from me and that I didn't cuss at her or that she didn't even think I was the type of person to swear. The look on my ex bosses face was priceless. I was able to collect unemployment insurance right away.
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Good for you. If I get fired it will be because of poor sales numbers, not keeping good enough inventory, too many spoils/returns. Hard to argue with that since I'm clearly not perfect
Great job IMHO
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so you hate your job AND you suck at it?
how about you get off the outpost and look for a new job.
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If youre working more than 8 hrs a day... Then keep a logbook. Make a case that they require you to work overtime regularly but you are not compensated for it. Then sue them. The employment board will also press charges. If you find a new job, quit then sue them. You can get $5000 easily... Maybe more.
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IMHO posted:
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Seething199 posted:
so you hate your job AND you suck at it?
how about you get off the outpost and look for a new job.
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Like i said, just keep logs.
At my parents business where the workers had to use time cards.. One of the workers made up a big farce (after she was fired)) about how she was forced to work without using the timecard and she kept records. Now there really is no possible way to verify the records are real or not but the employment board or whatever it is tends to protect the little person in these situations.
My parents had no choice but to pay her off.
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There is an old saying. What the might can perceive, the ass can achieve. This works with negative stuff as well.
"I'm a weirdo" and other such crap will not help you STOP being a weirdo. If you know that you're weird then you can change it if you want.
Also, why don't you sit down and figure out what kind of basic jobs you'd like and then start working toward getting one of those?
/it ain't brain surgery bro, it's just hard to take the leap to being happier.
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I'm a troubled soul. In the first grade my teachers said I was aloof and apart from the other kids and I needed some sort of consoling. My parents freaked out and took me out of the Christian school. Apparently my weirdness is something I've had from the very start of my life
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Wear your weirdness like a crown. It makes you unique. As you get older it doesn't make any difference.
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Look Bonk it could be worst. You could have been born a Super Genius
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Look Bonk it could be worst. You could have been born a Super Genius
bonk could only wish to be born a super genius.
and it doesnt take a super genius to outsmart the outpost.
in fact, im sure any retard would have no problem getting one past the majority of you
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Elkad posted:
He's got DoT regulations to uphold. In order to work those hours he has to be forging logbooks.
hes not an over the road trucker, hes a salesman.
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You've always managed to land on your feet Bonk. Just look for something better. Seriously, If you are not making that much money then a lot of jobs might be better.
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