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Is there any game that's actually amendable to hunting on foot? Sitting in a blind or stand for hours waiting for an animal to come eat at it's feeder sounds boring. Going for a hike with a rifle or shotgun, maybe following some track, and shooting some smaller game sounds like it could be enjoyable though...
Actually, I really don't understand the logistics of hunting. Do you just head to a place where it's legal and hop out with your weapon making sure not to shoot anything orange? Someone walk me through what a typical day of hunting is like. 
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Bird hunting is done on foot. * And there is always Helicopter hog hunting I am looking into to doing this soon.
You go to a "hunting lease" in most cases where you are either part owner or pay a fee and it is regulated as to how many you can kill.
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30 seconds of googling will show you a whole bunch of material on the subject.
A couple topics to look up:
deer drive
deer stalk
upland game bird hunting
small game hunting
hunting with a dog
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So then you would:
1) Load up the car
2) Head to whatever legal hunting grounds you have access to
3) Hop out with weapon and some orange on
4) Wonder around until you stumble on a bird that is in season
5) Shoot bird, field dress, throw in game bag
6) Repeat 4 & 5 until tired, dark, or reached daily limit
7) Pack up and head home
I know this is a retarded question, but everything is so regulated it's hard to know if I'm missing some steps...
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So then you would:
* GET HUNTING LICENSE
1) Load up the car
2) Head to whatever legal hunting grounds you have access to
3) Hop out with weapon and some orange on
4) Wonder around until you stumble on a bird that is in season
5) Shoot bird, field dress, throw in game bag
6) Repeat 4 & 5 until tired, dark, or reached daily limit
7) Pack up and head home
I know this is a retarded question, but everything is so regulated it's hard to know if I'm missing some steps...
Pretty much, except you would not really stumble around. Normally you would go with friends and form a structured line and approach so no one gets shot and canvass a field/area strategically. Dogs can help flush and retrieve to.
Check out the heli hog hunting.
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Maybe one day, but for the money those helicopter trips seem to cost I could go dove hunting in Argentina...
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Is there any game that's actually amendable to hunting on foot? Sitting in a blind or stand for hours waiting for an animal to come eat at it's feeder sounds boring. Going for a hike with a rifle or shotgun, maybe following some track, and shooting some smaller game sounds like it could be enjoyable though...
Actually, I really don't understand the logistics of hunting. Do you just head to a place where it's legal and hop out with your weapon making sure not to shoot anything orange? Someone walk me through what a typical day of hunting is like.
I've only gone deer hunting in a blind/stand and it can be pretty boring at times. I usually cheat and have my phone if I'm bored but you still have to stay alert or the deer that you want to shoot will move behind some trees or a hill and you lose your shot. In my state, feeders are illegal so you either have to plant crops the deer will eat months in advance (alfalfa and clover are popular) or you set up your blind/stand in an area deer will commonly traverse.
Typically you wake up, shower w/ unscented soap, and get in your stand/blind at least 30 minutes before dawn. I usually stay out for about 3-4 hours then I come back and eat lunch/take a nap then I go back out to the stand/blind about 1.5 - 2 hours before the sun sets. On your way to the stand you have to be mindful of where the wind is blowing, and where you expect the deer to be. If it's possible you want to avoid your scent being carried in that direction.
edit. You typically don't want to be moving around if you are hunting deer as they can hear and smell you way before you can see them, at least in the mornings in evenings. Deer typically sleep during the day so if you walk around you may arouse them from their resting spots (usually in thick brush). In the morning and evenings, they are most active as they are going to sleep (in the morning) or waking up (in the evening). Occasionally, during the rut, you will have hotheaded idiot bucks who are running around during the day looking for a doe in heat.
Dunno if that was helpful or not but it's been my experience the past 4 years when I've gone.
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Maybe one day, but for the money those helicopter trips seem to cost I could go dove hunting in Argentina...
Doubtful, but you post here, I just assumed we were all millionaires.
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my son and I hunt squirrel and rabbit on foot. we also hunt turkey from a ground blind if we are lucky enough to get a lottery hunt. Check your state for wildlife management areas. That where we do all out hunting. We duck hunt too but down here that requires a boat.
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I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
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pretty much anything because when hunting from a blind or stationary position most hunters bait their prey by setting up near a natural food water/source or an trail.
here feeders are legal if its on private property.
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I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
Not even a politician?
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I guess I'll give the upland bird thing a try. I'm off tomorrow and have my hunting license and permit to hunt on state land. A couple of spot nearby. Guess I'll head out and see if I can find some pheasant, quail, or dove. Biggest concern is being able to identify the bird as a legitimate target...
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I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
I'm not. I'm shooting it for food.
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I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
Never hit a deer? Also: venison.
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Immortal_Haze posted:
I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
we call them varmints.
no season
no tags required
no limits.
example coyotes and wild hogs around here.
hell I am thinking about getting a lever action 45-70 for hog hunting around here.
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Immortal_Haze posted:
I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
Not even a politician?
I wouldn't shoot handicapped either.
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Immortal_Haze posted:
I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
Never hit a deer? Also: venison.
Once, in a petting zoo. Punched that bastard right in the face.
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Immortal_Haze posted:
Ex-remlocke posted:
Immortal_Haze posted:
I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
Never hit a deer? Also: venison.
Once, in a petting zoo. Punched that bastard right in the face.
Nice, well you aren't completely new to this. Good response.
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with dogs? squirrel, rabbit, dove, quail, pheasant, deer occasionally if you're into that...they're used to push the deer back towards you, also hogs.
without dogs? the same list + big game (turkey, elk, moose, ram/bighorn, etc).
you can do pretty much any hunting by walking around (minus turkey, they're way too finicky to kill if you aren't camo'd and noiseless).
Depending on where you live, a guided bird hunt is probably the most fun and the highest chance of success (quail/pheasant). Around here, you call up the place and set a date, and they will go out a few days before and release a set number of birds on their property (they're raised in a cage and they also don't fly around too much, so they don't go far after release). Then they provide the dogs and take you out for A few hundred bucks a person for 4-5 hours or so. If you're further N in the plains area, they go for wild birds more b/c they're found there more abundantly. you'll want to practice with skeet if you aren't comfortable shooting moving targets with a shotgun, or you won't hit squat.
for the more hardcore hunter: you can do big game stalk hunts in the midwest/southwest (they don't do that much here in the SE b/c it's too wooded)...where you might go on a 2 day hunt and ride in to a camp and then walk out from there and you find them in a big valley or something and have to basically army crawl close enough to shoot. these are expensive if you are being guided.
"Someone walk me through what a typical day of hunting is like."
that depends entirely on what you're going for...
Deer hunting in a stand: You want to be IN the stand BEFORE they wake up or as close to before as possible. So you need to know where you're going beforehand, and get there at/before daylight. You gotta be all ninja-like the whole time. You get up in the stand and sit there and shutup. they usually are the most active at 7-9AM or the last 45 minutes before dark. And don't take a shower the night before with some ridiculous smelly stuff, they can smell like dogs, and they won't come anywhere near where you are if they're downwind of you. shoot a deer, and go find it if it didn't drop straight to the ground (blood trail time). cut it's belly open and clean 'er out. then drag it out on your cart/4wheeler/truck and take it to the checking station (so the wildlife management folks can keep track of how many have been killed), and then to a processor if you aren't doing it yourself.
stalking: I've never done it myself, but it's similar...you get up at the crack of dawn and go find a spot you think they might come to and wait. then move in to them when you can.
bird hunt: you get there early or late afternoon and walk the fields. kill them when you see them/when the dogs point them out and flush them, and then after you've got your limit or you're tired, you go back and clean them.
squirrel hunting is just like bird hunting, just in the woods. It's ideal to have 2 people at least, so someone can have a .22 and shoot them from further off, because squirrels spook easily. Gotta be there early so you can be in the woods when they wake up. You don't want to be just getting there while theyre eating breakfast on the tree, they'll go inside their holes or to the other side of the forest.
rabbit hunts are in more swampy areas usually, and with no dog it's rough work (you've gotta kick up all the bushes and thick grass you can find because they won't come out unless they have no other choice).
turkey hunting is basically sitting on the edge of a field and being as quiet as possible with the occasional call if needed. they spook SUPER easy and they can see very well (in color as well, so gotta wear full camo and cover that face/hands).
make sure you check out the seasons for whatever you want to look into, there's some hefty fines for shooting out of season animals. and buy the license required. In the SE, it's pretty cheap...$28 for fishing and small game license, and $18 on top of that for big game...that's TN. MW area is a lot more I would imagine because it's more big game hunting.
I suggest a bird hunt if you are comfortable with a shotgun. they're a lot of fun, and quail/pheasant/dove are easy to shoot if you're skilled at all. they offer them around here for $300 or so per person with the dogs included. You can get 10 or so quail each and I think 4 or 6 pheasant, and they will clean them for you. and if you're lucky, you'll be scheduled behind a group like I was the last time my dad and brother went a couple years ago...the guide told us the group he had taken out the weekend before (he did it as a side job on the weekends) were all terrible shots, so they only got like 5 of the pheasant he put out. So we ended up doing quail only and got a bunch of the pheasant he had put out for the group before.
sorry that's so long...there's not much I like more than hunting, fishing, and playing games on the computer so I ramble on a lot 
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When i used to hunt years ago, it was mule deer. We didnt sit our asses up in a tree waiting for one to wander by. We went out and looked for them. A group of guys would work and area and meet up later. More often than not one group would push them to another or you came upon them if you were not an bumbling idiot.
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with dogs? squirrel, rabbit, dove, quail, pheasant, deer occasionally if you're into that...they're used to push the deer back towards you, also hogs.
without dogs? the same list + big game (turkey, elk, moose, ram/bighorn, etc).
you can do pretty much any hunting by walking around (minus turkey, they're way too finicky to kill if you aren't camo'd and noiseless).
Depending on where you live, a guided bird hunt is probably the most fun and the highest chance of success (quail/pheasant). Around here, you call up the place and set a date, and they will go out a few days before and release a set number of birds on their property (they're raised in a cage and they also don't fly around too much, so they don't go far after release). Then they provide the dogs and take you out for A few hundred bucks a person for 4-5 hours or so. If you're further N in the plains area, they go for wild birds more b/c they're found there more abundantly. you'll want to practice with skeet if you aren't comfortable shooting moving targets with a shotgun, or you won't hit squat.
for the more hardcore hunter: you can do big game stalk hunts in the midwest/southwest (they don't do that much here in the SE b/c it's too wooded)...where you might go on a 2 day hunt and ride in to a camp and then walk out from there and you find them in a big valley or something and have to basically army crawl close enough to shoot. these are expensive if you are being guided.
"Someone walk me through what a typical day of hunting is like."
that depends entirely on what you're going for...
Deer hunting in a stand: You want to be IN the stand BEFORE they wake up or as close to before as possible. So you need to know where you're going beforehand, and get there at/before daylight. You gotta be all ninja-like the whole time. You get up in the stand and sit there and shutup. they usually are the most active at 7-9AM or the last 45 minutes before dark. And don't take a shower the night before with some ridiculous smelly stuff, they can smell like dogs, and they won't come anywhere near where you are if they're downwind of you. shoot a deer, and go find it if it didn't drop straight to the ground (blood trail time). cut it's belly open and clean 'er out. then drag it out on your cart/4wheeler/truck and take it to the checking station (so the wildlife management folks can keep track of how many have been killed), and then to a processor if you aren't doing it yourself.
stalking: I've never done it myself, but it's similar...you get up at the crack of dawn and go find a spot you think they might come to and wait. then move in to them when you can.
bird hunt: you get there early or late afternoon and walk the fields. kill them when you see them/when the dogs point them out and flush them, and then after you've got your limit or you're tired, you go back and clean them.
squirrel hunting is just like bird hunting, just in the woods. It's ideal to have 2 people at least, so someone can have a .22 and shoot them from further off, because squirrels spook easily. Gotta be there early so you can be in the woods when they wake up. You don't want to be just getting there while theyre eating breakfast on the tree, they'll go inside their holes or to the other side of the forest.
rabbit hunts are in more swampy areas usually, and with no dog it's rough work (you've gotta kick up all the bushes and thick grass you can find because they won't come out unless they have no other choice).
turkey hunting is basically sitting on the edge of a field and being as quiet as possible with the occasional call if needed. they spook SUPER easy and they can see very well (in color as well, so gotta wear full camo and cover that face/hands).
make sure you check out the seasons for whatever you want to look into, there's some hefty fines for shooting out of season animals. and buy the license required. In the SE, it's pretty cheap...$28 for fishing and small game license, and $18 on top of that for big game...that's TN. MW area is a lot more I would imagine because it's more big game hunting.
I suggest a bird hunt if you are comfortable with a shotgun. they're a lot of fun, and quail/pheasant/dove are easy to shoot if you're skilled at all. they offer them around here for $300 or so per person with the dogs included. You can get 10 or so quail each and I think 4 or 6 pheasant, and they will clean them for you. and if you're lucky, you'll be scheduled behind a group like I was the last time my dad and brother went a couple years ago...the guide told us the group he had taken out the weekend before (he did it as a side job on the weekends) were all terrible shots, so they only got like 5 of the pheasant he put out. So we ended up doing quail only and got a bunch of the pheasant he had put out for the group before.
sorry that's so long...there's not much I like more than hunting, fishing, and playing games on the computer so I ramble on a lot
Thanks, that helps a lot. Yea, I wanted to do a guided dove hunt but no one has enough doves around to put one on. Quail and chacalaca are in season so I might give that a shot sometime this weekend...
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I guess I'll give the upland bird thing a try. I'm off tomorrow and have my hunting license and permit to hunt on state land. A couple of spot nearby. Guess I'll head out and see if I can find some pheasant, quail, or dove. Biggest concern is being able to identify the bird as a legitimate target...
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I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
I'm not. I'm shooting it for food.
they got the internet but no supermarkets where you're at? poor you. 
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No, they have markets. Did they master lab-grown meat while I was taking a dump?
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does your market have meat in it?
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The last post went over your head so I'm going to cut-off this charming back-and-forth we've got going and just do this choose your own adventure style - oops. No, nevermind. Lost interest.
You dumb.
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Wow.
Just... wow
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the animals at the market were farmed/slaughtered/butchered which keeps in line with the fact that we are farmers NOT hunter-gatherers. Man is as much a part of the natural order as a God is with humanity.
tell you what, want to join the hunt again and be part of the natural order of things? Stow your rifle, and your helicopter rides and your tree stands. Go sharpen the end of a long stick, harden it in fire, then go stalk hunt your supper.
You say you eat what you kill like you have no choice in the matter. Thats friggin ridiculous.
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Make sure the water is really hot. That way, it's easier to pull the pin feathers.
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well, when my brother in law got his black bear, he was driving down the highway when he spotted it up on a rocky hill/cliff, after climbing to near where he saw the bear he had to track where it had gone to. Kill it, and then figure out how to get it back down the hill. He made a wall hanging out of it, the "wing span" was just short of an 8' high wall.
I don't know how he got it down the hill, but when he got back to his truck there was a note on the windshield of a guy that said he'd been trying to get that bear for several years, and if my bro in law killed it he wanted the opportunity to do the taxidermy on it.
waiting in a tree for something edible to walk by doesn't seem very sportsman like to me either.
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Immortal_Haze posted:
I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
thats why i throw them a knife first
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Immortal_Haze posted:
I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
what about a vicious animal that can fight back?
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Jezza_Belle posted:
Immortal_Haze posted:
I could never shoot a helpless animal for fun.
what about a vicious animal that can fight back?
in self defense (and NOT *its coming right for us![BAM]*, sure! everybody has the right to self preservation.
but unless the vicious animal you are talking about can shoot deadly projectiles a few hundred yards, I dont know how you can even begin to say it can fight back.
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
the animals at the market were farmed/slaughtered/butchered which keeps in line with the fact that we are farmers NOT hunter-gatherers. Man is as much a part of the natural order as a God is with humanity.
tell you what, want to join the hunt again and be part of the natural order of things? Stow your rifle, and your helicopter rides and your tree stands. Go sharpen the end of a long stick, harden it in fire, then go stalk hunt your supper.
You say you eat what you kill like you have no choice in the matter. Thats friggin ridiculous.
Yea, that incoherent babbling of thoughts I never expressed is totally ridiculous...
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These two hunters went moose hunting every year without success.
Finally they came up with a foolproof plan.
They got themselves a very authentic cow moose costume and learned the mating call of a cow moose.
The plan was to hide in the costume, lure in the bull, then come out of the costume and shoot the bull.
So, they set themselves up on the edge of a clearing, in their costume, and began to give the moose love call. Before too long their call was answered by bull in the forest.
They called again, the bull answered closer to them. They called again, The bull answered, and came crashing out of the forest and into the clearing.
As the bulls' pounding hoof beats got closer the guy in front said, "OK, lets get out and get him"!
After a moment, that seemed like an eternity, the guy in the back shouts -
"THE ZIPPER IS STUCK, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!?!"
The front guy says, "Well, I'm gonna start nibbling grass, but you better start to brace yourself!"
deadcactus posted:
No, they have markets. Did they master lab-grown meat while I was taking a dump?
implying that all animals in the market are equal to what you are hunting.
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