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official forums hurt these games more than they help

 

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i havent kept up on swtor at all...what are the complaints in general?

 

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Yuki would make an excellent cooler for competing software companies.

There are a bevy of crashes outstanding right now that are particularly agregious Walker. Folks are CTD after a few seconds, lots of blue screen reports, some hardware failure reports, a few OS corruption complaints, etc.

IMO it looks like they have a nasty threading issue they are having difficulty tracking down.

 

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I'm sure they'll have an NGE in place soon to resolve these and many other problems, like people having fun while playing.

 

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Today's gamers are so spoilt, so whiny.

Back in my day we were happy to have four-way multiplayer going over IPX, in fact, we were ecstatic!

 

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I still remember when EQ closed their forums to subscribing members only. You would have thought someone was prodding these peoples' characters into concentration camps.

 

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I have never had to wait in a queue to post on forums.

EA is so cheap they apparently won't even pay bandwidth costs for their own forums.

 

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There are some pretty good trolls there, though.

"Please allow us to have a gearscore-alike addon. I don't care if it's 3rd party or not.

Right now there is simply NO way to know if another player has skill or not. Adding a simple gearscore sort of thing would fix alot of issues with grouping and I'm not even 50 yet."


applause well played indeed!

 

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The game is one big memory leak...for a game that lets only 100-150 people in to same map it grabs 1,7gb of memory after half an hour of gameplay.


 

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It is so badly optimized it's seriously shocking. Game takes minutes to load zones sometimes, constantly has black-screen graphical glitches, and takes a year to alt-tab because of what I can only assume are memory leaks.

 

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memory leak, UI, and meaningless crafting are huge issues. Add on their PvP system and I really do not see this anything other than a revolving door MMOG.

This really is just a quest driven, solo, RPG with a chat box. Best decision they made was a Christmas /winter release. It does give someone something to fool around with.

 

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i have no issues dancing

game is smooth as butter, loading times are short, i can play for hours at a time, i can tab in and out with no issues, etc

jaded MMO gamers crack me up laugh

have you guys ever considered that this genre is just not for you?

 

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Elocism posted:

game is smooth as butter, loading times are short, i can play for hours at a time, i can tab in and out with no issues, etc


You are pretty clearly in the minority. My rig runs any game out there fine, except SWTOR. It takes me 30 seconds to alt tab and sometimes 2+ minutes to load a zone. In game I get 60+fps on the highest settings so it obviously isn't my hardware being too slow to run the game.

Not to mention I can't even quit the game using the in-game interface. If I do it freezes every time. Whenever I want to quit I have to alt-tab, wait 20 seconds, then quit the process through the task manager.

 

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forum posters are in the minority

 

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I'm not basing my observations on the forums. Anywhere in game if you ask people many of them have similar issues. Tinkles has the same loading and alt-tabbing issues I do too btw.

You know something is wonky with a game when you can't even exit it without it crashing.

 

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I play SWTOR on an IMac via bootcamp with zero problems.

 

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I've been playing steadily since it went live and I haven't had many problems. None serious. I can alt-tab and zones load quickly. Haven't noticed any problems with memory leaks, even after 12 hour sessions.

 

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Groucho48 posted:
I've been playing steadily since it went live and I haven't had many problems. None serious. I can alt-tab and zones load quickly. Haven't noticed any problems with memory leaks, even after 12 hour sessions.


Sans the 12 hours sessions, I've had one CTD during peak hours.

 

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There is quite obviously a memory leak issue lurking somewhere in there, as well as a couple other issues. Not everyone gets it but it's quite widespread.

 

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I disagree. You are incorrectly interpreting threading issues as memory leaks.

Huge portions of the HeroEngine were written in C# - and it's extremely difficult to induce memory leaks into C#. You have to turn portions of the language off to do so.

The lagging you are seeing in switching operations are not indicative of memory leaks, unless they consistently get worse over time. My guess is they have a nasty deadlock they can't find - the active thread has to wait for the thread timer to time out (since it's deadlocking somewhere) and switching TOR to the background thread, allowing windows to be made active again in a foreground thread.

My educated, tired, mostly correct guess anyway.

 

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Can't say I'm having any issues other than some planets loading super slow and quitting takes about 30 seconds. My computer isn't remarkable by any means.

AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE OC'd 3.6ghz
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Elocism posted:

game is smooth as butter, loading times are short, i can play for hours at a time, i can tab in and out with no issues, etc


You are pretty clearly in the minority. My rig runs any game out there fine, except SWTOR. It takes me 30 seconds to alt tab and sometimes 2+ minutes to load a zone. In game I get 60+fps on the highest settings so it obviously isn't my hardware being too slow to run the game.

Not to mention I can't even quit the game using the in-game interface. If I do it freezes every time. Whenever I want to quit I have to alt-tab, wait 20 seconds, then quit the process through the task manager.




Your PC sucks donkey dick. I have none of these problems.

 

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kedz20xx posted:
Can't say I'm having any issues other than some planets loading super slow and quitting takes about 30 seconds. My computer isn't remarkable by any means.

AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE OC'd 3.6ghz
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jfc...you must have the hottest pc known to mankind

 

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I log in every night and play until the software crashes or locks up. Last night, I logged in, did my space dailies then flew to Alderan where I was able to complete one quest before the game hung bringing me out of a dialog. Some nights I get hours of play, some nights I'll play maybe 15 minutes.

My PC is almost 4 years old now and barely runs the game. PvE is easily playable, but PvP is a frame rate stutterfest.

 

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The game does run a bit sluggish and I am not surprised people have had problems. The game is also bringing a lot of new people into the genre who are not used to the issues that go along with many MMOs.

The game is fun though.

 

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Zero issues since four weeks before release, i haven't had one CTD or lag issue.

 

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Taliesihne posted:

The lagging you are seeing in switching operations are not indicative of memory leaks, unless they consistently get worse over time.


That kinda is how it works though. If you try to alt tab right after getting into game for the first time it isn't too bad. If you try to do it after 1 hour it's awful. If you alt tab after that hour, wait the age it takes, surf for a while, then go back in, you can alt tab back out quicker than you could before too.

I am not a developer so I'm not sure what it is but there is clearly something wrong with the code somewhere.

 

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Your PC sucks donkey dick. I have none of these problems.


My PC runs SWTOR on high settings at 60+ fps even in the imperial fleet. It also runs Skyrim on the highest settings with no noticeable stuttering. It is not a problem with computer specs. We've already been over this.

 

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Sorry. Badger is the OP expert on computer specs and sucking donkey dicks. So you double lose.

 

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