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http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/dragon.html

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Hello? Yeah, the two dragons on the ark airlifted it to mount yassar arafat and flew into the sunset and awesome.

 

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Sounds like a sound theory to me

 

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"Here are some facts about Dragons:

1) Not all Dragons were large terrifying creatures, some were quite small.
2) Not all Dragons had wings or could fly. Many dragons were wingless creatures.

3) Not all Dragons could emit fire, as shown in today’s paintings of them.

4) Dragons were Not mythical creatures. But rather real animals with a strong foundation in reality."

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Sounds like a sound theory to me
The theory is patently ridiculous, so it's no wonder you believe it to be sound.

The entire premise is based upon the references to dragons found only in the Bible.

Problem: There are no references to "dragons" (or dinosaur like creatures) in fiction, mythology or literature which predates the Bible.

What there is however are references to many great, mythical beasts and demons. If the "logic" of this theory were at all sound, we must also start trying to find the fossilized remains of Humbaba, Medusa, Kraken, Chimera, Gorgons and Titans, not to mention the 100s of other fantasy creations of pre-biblical legend.

 

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wtb Tark ring for 100 plat

 

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SHO'NUFF!

 

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Koneg posted:
Coriolus posted:
Sounds like a sound theory to me
The theory is patently ridiculous, so it's no wonder you believe it to be sound.

The entire premise is based upon the references to dragons found only in the Bible.

Problem: There are no references to "dragons" (or dinosaur like creatures) in fiction, mythology or literature which predates the Bible.

What there is however are references to many great, mythical beasts and demons. If the "logic" of this theory were at all sound, we must also start trying to find the fossilized remains of Humbaba, Medusa, Kraken, Chimera, Gorgons and Titans, not to mention the 100s of other fantasy creations of pre-biblical legend.


Based on the references stated on the website it is sound.

 

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Based on the references stated on the website it is sound.
Is this really how you think? "It's on the interwebs so it must be true"?

 

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Koneg posted:
Coriolus posted:
Based on the references stated on the website it is sound.
Is this really how you think? "It's on the interwebs so it must be true"?


OF COURSE DON"T YOU?!??!?!?!

 

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Yes. Yes, they do.

 

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She can ride my dragon any time!

 

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FYI, Humbaba sucked balls. Dude got me killed and for what? I was the one trying to stop Gil from killing him, so I get ganked?

At least when you sent the hooker to seduce me, I got laid! laugh

 

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That site looks just like what an Angelfire site SHOULD look like!

 

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Well the word dinosaur didnt exist then. It is possible. Never know, none of us were there to see it. We can all only speculate. A degree doesn't prove or disprove anything! So dont believe anything and everything a college professor or scientist says. peace

 

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Here's a picture of a dinosaur:

 

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That's a horribly mutated dinosaur, how could you embarrass it like that! shame_on_you

 

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Here's a picture of a dinosaur:





I attended a very interesting Jack Horner lecture last year wherein he was discussing the real possibilities of manipulating chicken DNA to recreate dinosaurs. He also detailed his studies in ontogeny of various dinosaur fossils that revealed that several known species may in fact be different stages of maturation of a single species. Very interesting.

 

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Some dinosaurs were warm blooded and some were cold blooded I bet

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A degree is not the bible! So dont believe anything and everything a college professor or scientist says. They are lying satanists. peace

 

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Nah christianity is not islam shhh

 

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But in a way your right. College doesn't really matter. I'm just doing it for the money happy not only am I getting it 1/2 price but my work pays for the rest. Its optional. Most of the crap they try to teach I ignore. Its one sided

 

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Onslaught. posted:
NuEM posted:
Here's a picture of a dinosaur:





I attended a very interesting Jack Horner lecture last year wherein he was discussing the real possibilities of manipulating chicken DNA to recreate dinosaurs. He also detailed his studies in ontogeny of various dinosaur fossils that revealed that several known species may in fact be different stages of maturation of a single species. Very interesting.



Uhm, you don't need to manipulate anything. That's a modern day dinosaur. Aves is a subset of Saurischia which is itself a subset of Dinosauria. peace

 

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I see a chicken and no reason to think it came from anything other than a chicken. I might believe you if you could take that chicken and turn him into a t-rex. But we all know you can do any of that. Or take that chicken and somehow make him "evolve" into something different. But again science can do neither. nerd

 

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Which came first, the chicken or the noob?

 

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well the noob came from the chicken 100 million years ago right?

rolling_eyes idiocy

 

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I see a chicken and no reason to think it came from anything other than a chicken.
And you don't like boobs either.

We now have enough empirical evidence to support the hypothesis that you're a complete idiot.

Now we just have to test it somehow...

 

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Most of the crap they try to teach I ignore. Its one sided
Surprising


no really - I'm surprised...

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I'm not.

 

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How old is the Earth Mastboro? How long have humans been around?

 

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Mastara posted:
I see a chicken and no reason to think it came from anything other than a chicken. I might believe you if you could take that chicken and turn him into a t-rex. But we all know you can do any of that. Or take that chicken and somehow make him "evolve" into something different. But again science can do neither. nerd





i bet youre eagerly awaiting the day we wake up with humans in the zoo where monkeys used to be, arent you?

 

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That's the most retarded question I've ever seen

 

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Mastara posted:
I see a chicken and no reason to think it came from anything other than a chicken. I might believe you if you could take that chicken and turn him into a t-rex. But we all know you can do any of that. Or take that chicken and somehow make him "evolve" into something different. But again science can do neither. nerd



Where did domesticated animals come from then?

Or modern strains of vegetable and grain that we consume daily?

They didn't just appear one day out of thin air.

 

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Wait. This forum has someone that doesn't believe in evolution? HAHAHA... that's great.

 

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Sgian_Dubh posted:
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I see a chicken and no reason to think it came from anything other than a chicken. I might believe you if you could take that chicken and turn him into a t-rex. But we all know you can do any of that. Or take that chicken and somehow make him "evolve" into something different. But again science can do neither. nerd



Where did domesticated animals come from then?

Or modern strains of vegetable and grain that we consume daily?

They didn't just appear one day out of thin air.




the banana you can't explain that!

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Wait. This forum has someone that doesn't believe in evolution? HAHAHA... that's great.
There are quite a few of them actually - and proud about it at that...

 

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Nah christianity is not islam shhh



dumbass, you just called your own religion satanic


how inbred are you exactly ?

 

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Wait. This forum has someone that doesn't believe in evolution? HAHAHA... that's great.
There are quite a few of them actually - and proud about it at that...



lol... It's just... LOL

Do these people also believe that the world is 6,000 years old, flat, a geocentric solar system and geosynclines?


I'm fine with religion. I'm not okay with willful stupidity... Well, it's okay to laugh at from time to time.

 

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Mastara posted:
I see a chicken and no reason to think it came from anything other than a chicken.


Okay, you see a chicken. True. Do you also see a bird? Do you also see a vertebrate? Then you understand that a thing can be a member of more than one category in a nested hierarchy. One of the categories this chicken is a member of is dinosaur.

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I might believe you if you could take that chicken and turn him into a t-rex. But we all know you can do any of that.


We can't take a mouse and turn it into a cow either. That doesn't stop them from being mammals.

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Or take that chicken and somehow make him "evolve" into something different. But again science can do neither. nerd


It's called breeding. Although I'm not sure if the term "evolve" still applies if it's done artificially.

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Junglefowl <---- thought to be the ancestor of the modern chicken.

 

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Scientist have already activated chromosomes that have brought out strong reptilian features in chickens . I'm on my phone so I don't have the reference on hand but there's a whole program dedicated to this on the Science Channel then again religion and science has long separated.

 

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Koneg posted:
..]And you don't like boobs either.

We now have enough empirical evidence to support the hypothesis that you're a complete idiot.

Now we just have to test it somehow...




What if Masboro started posting in quantity on the Outpost, we'd have some data to analyze?

Oh right... carry on!! peace

 

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Okay, you see a chicken. True. Do you also see a bird? Do you also see a vertebrate? Then you understand that a thing can be a member of more than one category in a nested hierarchy. One of the categories this chicken is a member of is dinosaur.


Kingdom: Animalia Phylum:Chordata Class:Aves Order:Galliformes Family:Phasianidae Subfamily:Phasianinae Genus:Gallus Species:Gallus gallus

Birds are related to dinosaurs in some way we don't understand yet...but they are NOT classified as dinosaurs.


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Subject: Did Dragons Ever Exist?
GrymmDAOC posted:
Kingdom: Animalia Phylum:Chordata Class:Aves Order:Galliformes Family:Phasianidae Subfamily:Phasianinae Genus:Gallus Species:Gallus gallus

Birds are related to dinosaurs in some way we don't understand yet...but they are NOT classified as dinosaurs.


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That's a sooooomewhat incomplete classification. Look what's between Chordata and Aves:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chordate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauropsida

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archosauromorpha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avemetatarsalia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosauria

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saurischia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelurosauria

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aves


Each group is a subset of the group above it. I left out a few intermediates here and there.

 

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