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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
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We lost a ton of manufacturing in this country and then had a tsunami of illegal workers flood our remaining jobs that work for nothing....
Then you have major corporations handed bjillions of dollars just to give their selves bonus'...
...and you have the nerve to call Americans lazy and poor....
Why do you hate America?
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5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
I think you are kind of right on this one. There are many wealthy people who don't work because us workers take care of them. We produce more, for less, so stock prices will rise and they can sit back and collect capital gains.
Then the other half of us who are producing get the idea that it does no good because someone else is going to get what we earned, for doing nothing.
Like you said, Wall Street is the beginning of the end of any nation.
When you make money on the back of others for doing nothing while those working get nothing for their efforts to make you wealthy, we are going the wrong way.
I'm sure this is what you meant by #5.
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Grymlo probably still has a nice job that pays him well. I'm sure he is insulated from the reality of what is actually happening in America.
For him to make a thread that poor American people are just people unwilling to work and looking for hand-outs, shows a huge disconnect.
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The problem in this nation is that the middle class is screwed over by the rich.
You can destroy a country, empire, whatever by undermining the middle class for the benefit of the rich.
The biggest threat to the US is not terrorists or communism or government or religion or war but greed.
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62.7% of the assertions in this thread are 37.3% wrong.
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Grymlo posted:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
BS. If I'm Emperor of the world and decide everyone worth more than 10 millions has the excess property taken away from him and given to the poor guess what happens.
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2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
True. Right now a few thousand are raking in the fruits of the labor of millions.
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3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
So?
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4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
No, but you can make it be useful.
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5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
If there was any truth in this the fat cats would all live on food stamps.
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It is amazing how they can take clear common sense and twist it into liberal thinking. People like this are so indoctrinated that they will never accept that the rich are not evil and the poor are not pure. As I have said before; I don't believe most liberals are evil but their whole hearted supported of evil makes them just as bad.
Most Germans would never have supported the evil Hitler did; but most Germans, out of ignorant and stupidity did support Hitler the man. At least Hitler hid what he was doing. Liberals have to look the other way; or twist the logic until evil sounds verdurous.
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Just sit back and enjoy.
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It is amazing how they can take clear common sense and twist it into conservative thinking. People like this are so indoctrinated that they will never accept that the poor are not evil and the rich are not pure. As I have said before; I don't believe most conservatives are evil but their whole hearted supported of evil makes them just as bad.
Most Germans would never have supported the evil Hitler did; but most Germans, out of ignorant and stupidity did support Hitler the man. At least Hitler hid what he was doing. Conservatives have to look the other way; or twist the logic until evil sounds verdurous.
Funny how that fits perfectly both ways. It is also funny how with the a few clicks of a mouse I can find more evil done by the rich than I can by the poor.
Is it worse to steal $50 from 20 people or to steal $5 from a few million?
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Are you making over a million dollars a year?
Do you think the wealthy should have to pay less in taxes than the poor and middle class?
Do you think the skyrocketing wages of CEO's and our nations 11% unemployment but continued increase in productivity are unrelated?
Do you think the skyrocketing unemployed have just recently "become" lazy?
Do you think that corporations making billions of dollars in revenue should be able to avoid paying their fair share i.e. nothing?
Are you easily deceived by Faux News?
Do you believe it's okay for John McCain to own so many houses he can't even count them all, has full health care, yet decries it for average Americans?
Are you making less than a million dollars a year... YET STILL BELIEVE THESE THINGS?
Congratulations! You have passed our lack of IQ test! Welcome to the Republican party!
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The board needs a ticker/counter to assign numbers when they register:
"Congratulations, you are angry partisan reroll noob #35694. Please adorn your protective helmet & drool cup and have a seat"
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Lots of muddled reasoning going on here.
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I agree. But hey... this is the american way...
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Let's point out some facts. No, really, you can look these up.
There are people who make over a million dollars a year.
These people pay less in taxes than their maid, butler, gardener or driver.
CEO wages have skyrocketed in the last twenty years.
Huge corporations are making record profits with less workers. Think about this for just a second...
The biggest corporations in America paid less in taxes last year than I did. Most got a refund.
When asked how many houses he owned, John McCain didn't actually know how many. Hint: It is more than ten.
Fox news lies.
All of these are not partisan crap but actually facts. Look it up.
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Psssst, you are a few years late with your emo drama McCain tears.
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Isnt what essentially happens... Tax money is collected from everyone and then via tax dollars/government action the rules get setup to where the corporate overlords get the biggest piece of the pie while making sure we always get less?
In other words what you say is true, but its not money from the rich going to the poor... Its money from the middle class going to the uber rich.
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Grymlo posted:
Chicken Soup for the Fox News crowd!
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theredkay1 posted:
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Melty Soup for the libtard crowd!
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