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Dude shoots a park ranger and 3 hours later we've got a body chest deep in the snow that's supposed to be his?
Come on that is some Magruber shit right there....
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Dont mess with law enforcement
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Dude shoots several people previous to killing the ranger. Later on, dude kills ranger. In the meantime, people who's job it is to figure these things out ask a few questions and find out who he is? Can't explain that.
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The thing is that law enforcement is an organization which has been in existance for hundreds of years here in the US and longer in other parts of the world. No matter how skilled you are as a criminal you have very little chance to avoid justice. There are a very few criminals who escape prosecution.
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Maybe they had his license plate and the other ranger ID'd him?
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Good call. He left his car there and that is how they figured out who he was. Too bad he murdered that woman park ranger
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And what you say is not true - the majority of criminals get away with their crimes.
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For some time they do but not forever
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Actually most crimes are never solved and the people who committed them go unpunished.
But you can't go around telling people that. They need the fear of capture and punishment to keep them in line.
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A lot of small crimes go unreported or just not caught.
Bigger crimes - people get caught when they act stupid. A lot of murders are cold cases.
There is a show on tv called 'i almost got away with it' - the cops would be hopeless most of the time if it werent for the crrok getting a big head.
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The people who commit big crimes commit small crimes too and many times they get caught and jailed for those small crimes. Most likely they will end up in jail for some crime they do
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So the short answer is nobody knows.
And they can't actually get to that body that's chest deep in the snow so they can't positively id it. It could be another one of his victims but they're going to go ahead and say it's him even though it'll be a week before anybody can get to the body...
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The people who commit big crimes commit small crimes too and many times they get caught and jailed for those small crimes. Most likely they will end up in jail for some crime they do
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/opinion/23tue3.html
About 40% of homicides go unsolved each year (though the article is from 07 but the rates seem to be about the same).
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There is a reason they call it 'The Information Age'.
Just sayin....
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__Bonk__ posted:
The thing is that law enforcement is an organization which has been in existance for hundreds of years here in the US and longer in other parts of the world. No matter how skilled you are as a criminal you have very little chance to avoid justice. There are a very few criminals who escape prosecution.
Actually there are tons and tons of people who get away with their crimes.
Things change when the crime becomes serious, though. If you commit a serious crime you probably are going to get caught and punished.
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imaloon1 posted:
Dude shoots a park ranger and 3 hours later we've got a body chest deep in the snow that's supposed to be his?
They knew who they were after before he ever shot the ranger.
Read something besides the funny papers and Alex Jones sometime?
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And they can't actually get to that body that's chest deep in the snow so they can't positively id it. It could be another one of his victims but they're going to go ahead and say it's him even though it'll be a week before anybody can get to the body...
He was wearing a T-Shirt, and he has about a zillion tattoos. If they can see him they can positively ID him at a glance, even if they can't see his face.
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Pretty simple stuff, really. Like someone mentioned, they almost certainly had his license plate #. If the car was registered to him, mystery solved.
Not everything is a coverup, you know. In this instance, I'm not even sure what they possibly could be covering up.
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From the offhand view I'm only curious.
No grand conspiracy, and perhaps this case is much older than just the timeframe I saw.
But the way it looked to me was they went from, found a dead park ranger to we know who the dude is to we found a body on a mountainside and it's him in about 4 hours...
Probably didn't actually go down that way but if it did kudos to law enforcement for being on the stick.
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Probably didn't actually go down that way
It didn't... and as an aside I can find no indication that they've had any difficulty either reaching his body or recovering it... so once again one asks you to consider other source of news besides Alex Jones.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017146937_ranger03m.html
Killed was 34-year-old Ranger Margaret Anderson, the mother of two young children, who was gunned down after she had set a roadblock to stop a car being pursued after failing to stop at a chain-up checkpoint. A cruiser being driven by Ranger Dan Camiccia, who was in pursuit of Barnes, also was peppered with gunfire as it approached. Camiccia was not injured.
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Well as Konehead alluded to he was on the run from another shooting the night before. What I don't know is why the park rangers office didn't know there was a suspect on the loose. Granted, Rainier is a fair distance from Seattle, but there should have been an APB on the vehicle. The guy was tailed when he blew through a checkpoint for tire chains. I suppose when he went through it, they didn't get a chance to run the plates, but you would think that someone would have realized that something was terribly wrong and checked into dangerous suspect activity before pursuing. My guess is the parks will be changing their operating procedures in the very near future.
What's really mind-boggling about this is that the anti-gun crowd is using this to bring up the issue of allowing loaded weapons onto federal parks...as if this scumbag would have thought twice about driving onto Rainier if that law had never been passed. I'm not one to be heavily enamored by guns rights, but even I can see how stupid that is.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
__Bonk__ posted:
The thing is that law enforcement is an organization which has been in existance for hundreds of years here in the US and longer in other parts of the world. No matter how skilled you are as a criminal you have very little chance to avoid justice. There are a very few criminals who escape prosecution.
Actually there are tons and tons of people who get away with their crimes.
Things change when the crime becomes serious, though. If you commit a serious crime you probably are going to get caught and punished.
I hope they bring you to justice one day Yuki!
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ZigmundZag posted:
What's really mind-boggling about this is that the anti-gun crowd is using this to bring up the issue of allowing loaded weapons onto federal parks...as if this scumbag would have thought twice about driving onto Rainier if that law had never been passed. I'm not one to be heavily enamored by guns rights, but even I can see how stupid that is.
It gets stupider - he was dishonorably discharged (misconduct discharge actually).
One of the reasons?
Illegal weapons.
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